PI adapter plate

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 12:00 PM

I am in the process of getting all the parts needed to do a PI intake swap. Mine on my 96GT cracked and is leaking. I know there is a adapter plate that is made so i dont have to Fill the gap in the gasket with silicone or weld. I caint find it to save my life. Are they worth it? I dont really like the idea of doing the silicone or weld cause i wana make sure that it all will work and i feel more comfortable with the adapter plate. Where can i get the damn thing????
Also make sure i got everything pls
PI intake
Intake gasket
water nipple
water tube
Injector o-rings

thanks

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 12:02 PM

you have to buy it as a kit from livernois! It is not worth it IMO. The silicon will work fine as long as you use PI gaskets and just use the amount that I did!

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product.phtml?p=457

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 12:06 PM

how much did you use per port?

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 12:23 PM

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 02:01 PM

Thats awesome man, Was it just the 2 ports? and what kind of silicone did you use? how long after you put it on did you wait till you laid down the gasket and bolted up the intake?? thanks again Matt

jersey98gt · August 18th, 2007, 03:17 PM

i actually saw the plate today (livernois) it pretty much looks like a hybrid between the NPI and PI gasket. I would just call livernois and ask them for a price for the plate alone. i bet they wont charge more than 50 bucks for it

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 04:24 PM

last I heard, livernois wont sell them seperatly! Also about the plates, you have to amost get a dyno tune to get it to gain the same amount of power! I wouldnt waste my money on plates when the silicon way will work just fine!

Anyway you just use the silicon on those two ports! one on each head! Anyway I used Toyota FIPG because its oil and gas resistant. Expensive stuff though, lol 25 bucks a tube! lol and I put the silicon down and then about 5 minutes later did the gaskets and then about 5-10 minutes I sat the intake on there and started the bolts!

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 04:39 PM

what is the proper name for the water tube? I went to a few auto parts shops and no one knows what it is called. they told me it was a factory part and to go to the dealership. Is that what you did? I might end up going to a junk yard.

Matt, how long after you did yours were you back to normal driving. Is there a break in period, or as long as there is no leaks, give her hell?

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 04:44 PM

Hey did you have any problems with your CAI hitting your strut brace?

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 04:45 PM

Well you have to buy it from a ford dealer ship! The part number for the tube is: XR3Z-18B402-AA
Water Pump nipple:F75Z-8555-AA

What did to break it in was wait 24 hours after I got it together so the silicon could dry and work. Then I started it up and let it idle for while and then i took it around the block not going over 2500 RPM. Then I checked to make sure no leaks. Then i took it to 3500 looked it over agian. I took it on a longer drive and took it up to 5000+ and no leaks. I have given it hell ever since and been about 5000 RPM almost everytime I drive it! lol

I had no clearance issues about my strut tower brace, I just never put it back on, because I dont think its needed, and it adds weight to my front end for the track!

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 04:52 PM

Well i got a long drive after its done. I got to drive 15 hours from Ft. sill, ok to knoxville, tn for the week and then back. So i will finish it and then let it sit 24 hours and then i should be good to go right????

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 04:54 PM

well yeah as long as you arnt leaking when you test it, you should be able to drive it the long distance, but I personally would wait to do the swap when you got back from the trip just incase something did happen that it startted to leak while on the trip!

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 04:57 PM

Well my intake manifold is already got a crack in it. i dont know how long its been there, should i chance it on the stock one or go ahead and do the swap?

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 04:59 PM

I would do the swap, but plan an extra day or two before you leave so if you have problems you can get it fixed before you leave!

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM

hey thanks man I will make sure to take some pics and keep everyone on the up and up about it. hopefully it all works out.

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 05:07 PM

the hardest part of it was that stupid coolant tube bolts on the back of the block! and then the stupid nipple! lol the other parts are a breeze!

jersey98gt · August 18th, 2007, 06:27 PM

did anyone of you guys that had your intake crack have anything in common before it cracked? like was their a certain noise or something

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 09:16 PM

I noticed antifreeze around the passenger front side of my intake manifold. I read that our model mustangs, the intake manifolds crack in that area thats why the PI intake manifold, the same part is made of aluminum, not plastic.

jbm5781 · August 18th, 2007, 09:25 PM

Yeah mine cracked in the exact same place... I'm doing my swap on Monday

caintcatchmyGT · August 18th, 2007, 09:25 PM

I just wanted to make sure that my alternator bracket will work...correct?

August 18th, 2007, 12:00 PM	#1
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	PI adapter plate I am in the process of getting all the parts needed to do a PI intake swap. Mine on my 96GT cracked and is leaking. I know there is a adapter plate that is made so i dont have to Fill the gap in the gasket with silicone or weld. I caint find it to save my life. Are they worth it? I dont really like the idea of doing the silicone or weld cause i wana make sure that it all will work and i feel more comfortable with the adapter plate. Where can i get the damn thing???? Also make sure i got everything pls PI intake Intake gasket water nipple water tube Injector o-rings thanks __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 12:02 PM	#2
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	you have to buy it as a kit from livernois! It is not worth it IMO. The silicon will work fine as long as you use PI gaskets and just use the amount that I did! http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product.phtml?p=457 __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 12:06 PM	#3
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	how much did you use per port? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#4
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	__________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#5
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	Thats awesome man, Was it just the 2 ports? and what kind of silicone did you use? how long after you put it on did you wait till you laid down the gasket and bolted up the intake?? thanks again Matt __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#6
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	i actually saw the plate today (livernois) it pretty much looks like a hybrid between the NPI and PI gasket. I would just call livernois and ask them for a price for the plate alone. i bet they wont charge more than 50 bucks for it __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

August 18th, 2007, 04:24 PM	#7
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	last I heard, livernois wont sell them seperatly! Also about the plates, you have to amost get a dyno tune to get it to gain the same amount of power! I wouldnt waste my money on plates when the silicon way will work just fine! Anyway you just use the silicon on those two ports! one on each head! Anyway I used Toyota FIPG because its oil and gas resistant. Expensive stuff though, lol 25 bucks a tube! lol and I put the silicon down and then about 5 minutes later did the gaskets and then about 5-10 minutes I sat the intake on there and started the bolts! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 04:39 PM	#8
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	what is the proper name for the water tube? I went to a few auto parts shops and no one knows what it is called. they told me it was a factory part and to go to the dealership. Is that what you did? I might end up going to a junk yard. Matt, how long after you did yours were you back to normal driving. Is there a break in period, or as long as there is no leaks, give her hell? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 04:44 PM	#9
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	Hey did you have any problems with your CAI hitting your strut brace? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#10
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	Well you have to buy it from a ford dealer ship! The part number for the tube is: XR3Z-18B402-AA Water Pump nipple:F75Z-8555-AA What did to break it in was wait 24 hours after I got it together so the silicon could dry and work. Then I started it up and let it idle for while and then i took it around the block not going over 2500 RPM. Then I checked to make sure no leaks. Then i took it to 3500 looked it over agian. I took it on a longer drive and took it up to 5000+ and no leaks. I have given it hell ever since and been about 5000 RPM almost everytime I drive it! lol I had no clearance issues about my strut tower brace, I just never put it back on, because I dont think its needed, and it adds weight to my front end for the track! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 04:52 PM	#11
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	Well i got a long drive after its done. I got to drive 15 hours from Ft. sill, ok to knoxville, tn for the week and then back. So i will finish it and then let it sit 24 hours and then i should be good to go right???? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#12
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	well yeah as long as you arnt leaking when you test it, you should be able to drive it the long distance, but I personally would wait to do the swap when you got back from the trip just incase something did happen that it startted to leak while on the trip! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 04:57 PM	#13
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	Well my intake manifold is already got a crack in it. i dont know how long its been there, should i chance it on the stock one or go ahead and do the swap? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 04:59 PM	#14
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	I would do the swap, but plan an extra day or two before you leave so if you have problems you can get it fixed before you leave! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 05:04 PM	#15
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	hey thanks man I will make sure to take some pics and keep everyone on the up and up about it. hopefully it all works out. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

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August 18th, 2007, 05:07 PM	#16
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	the hardest part of it was that stupid coolant tube bolts on the back of the block! and then the stupid nipple! lol the other parts are a breeze! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 18th, 2007, 06:27 PM	#17
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661	did anyone of you guys that had your intake crack have anything in common before it cracked? like was their a certain noise or something __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

August 18th, 2007, 09:16 PM	#18
caintcatchmyGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: still here in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma Posts: 349	I noticed antifreeze around the passenger front side of my intake manifold. I read that our model mustangs, the intake manifolds crack in that area thats why the PI intake manifold, the same part is made of aluminum, not plastic. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -MAC CAI -Polished 75mm TB and upper plentum -PI Intake Manifold -BBK underdrive pulleys -MAC Long Tube headers -Shorty H-pipe -Flowmaster Exhaust -18x9 275x35xR18 all around

August 18th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#19
jbm5781 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hattiesburg,MS Posts: 234	Yeah mine cracked in the exact same place... I'm doing my swap on Monday __________________ Who cares what your import looks like... They'll all be laughing at you at the finish line.