big problem need help

96gtponyred · August 20th, 2007, 12:09 AM

my car failed the mass inspection for emissions. the guy at the shop where i got my sticker said i need all the O2 sensors and the egr valve because it had 8 codes. i researched the codes and this is true. but i don't have the money to do all this right now cause im going back to school soon and cant work anymore but i need to get a sticker. here is my plan i was wondering what you guys thought and if it will work. i am going to clean and replace the egr myself and then i have a buddy who does custom exhausts so i was going to have him put an O/R x pipe or something with no cats and new mufflers and then install mils without changing the sensors so that my CEL wont throw anymore codes and will hopefully pass emissions (since there are no codes). i think this is the cheapest way to go and much better then just replacing the sensors for all that money and no hp gains like the new exhaust will. please help me and any other ideas will be aprieciated.

06RedfireGT · August 20th, 2007, 01:23 AM

do they measure the exhaust itself, as in what comes out of the tailpipe?

nes · August 20th, 2007, 01:37 AM

if they measure exhaust out the tailpipe... nes says you will still fail emissions.

kennyGT · August 20th, 2007, 02:02 AM

im can remember u asking about this before or some1 else, but if it is u and they only check for the codes, the MIL will work, but if they measure form ur tailpipes it iwll do nothing for u except take ur CEL off

Originally Posted by nes

nes says.

feeling a little confident lately

lol hows the car man?

beheivjer · August 20th, 2007, 10:44 AM

doing all that will cost more than just getting new o2s

96GTRagTop · August 20th, 2007, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by nes

if they measure exhaust out the tailpipe... nes says you will still fail emissions.

BS.......florida state emissions only check ur tail pipe and u can pass with an o/r pipe. Most speed shops i've been to can pass any catless GT 96 and up. Something about them burning cleaner then the 5.0's.

MustangMatt96GT · August 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM

mine passes the sniffer test, but i dont need one either!

96gtponyred · August 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM

they dont hook anything up to the tail pipe just to the computer and it would cost about the same because i know the exhaust guy and he hooks me up and i want to put an exhaust on anyway so i figure it will save me money

96Snaker · August 20th, 2007, 08:55 PM

Check with the local laws in your area. Some emission control stations in WA visually check for catalytic converters. As is the same when I lived in CA but not AZ. Emissions laws change yearly, and in different counties within states as well. One station may require cats, whereas one in a different county may only check the readings at the tailpipe opening.

tlgrant · August 21st, 2007, 02:34 PM

yo, i dont know where your geting a sticker but in MA you NEED cats, a shop is suposed to fail u if you dont have them reguardless of the sniff test, i live right in NH on the line. i picked up my camaro fairly cheap from ma, and same with my stang... unless the shop is easy going on inspection or u know the guy... and OR pipe wont pass...

96gtponyred · August 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM

yeah i know the guy if its not throwing any codes its fine same with most shops

tlgrant · August 21st, 2007, 08:18 PM

where are u form in MA

96gtponyred · August 22nd, 2007, 01:36 AM

canton

August 20th, 2007, 12:09 AM	#1
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 281	big problem need help my car failed the mass inspection for emissions. the guy at the shop where i got my sticker said i need all the O2 sensors and the egr valve because it had 8 codes. i researched the codes and this is true. but i don't have the money to do all this right now cause im going back to school soon and cant work anymore but i need to get a sticker. here is my plan i was wondering what you guys thought and if it will work. i am going to clean and replace the egr myself and then i have a buddy who does custom exhausts so i was going to have him put an O/R x pipe or something with no cats and new mufflers and then install mils without changing the sensors so that my CEL wont throw anymore codes and will hopefully pass emissions (since there are no codes). i think this is the cheapest way to go and much better then just replacing the sensors for all that money and no hp gains like the new exhaust will. please help me and any other ideas will be aprieciated.

August 20th, 2007, 10:44 AM	#5
beheivjer Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: belding, michigan Posts: 819	doing all that will cost more than just getting new o2s __________________ 1966 LUBR Bronco 1979 2.3t Cobra 1994 V6 Vert & a 351 ON A STAND 1997 Black Cobra 1994 Jeep XJ 4.5" lift 33"MTR http://www.cardomain.com/ride/680999 http://www.myspace.com/beheivjer

August 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM	#7
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.023@103.46 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,145	mine passes the sniffer test, but i dont need one either! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#8
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 281	they dont hook anything up to the tail pipe just to the computer and it would cost about the same because i know the exhaust guy and he hooks me up and i want to put an exhaust on anyway so i figure it will save me money __________________ bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter cobra R hood (has a vin#) 03 cobra rims

August 20th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#9
96Snaker Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Cobra 13.98 @ 101 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,687	Check with the local laws in your area. Some emission control stations in WA visually check for catalytic converters. As is the same when I lived in CA but not AZ. Emissions laws change yearly, and in different counties within states as well. One station may require cats, whereas one in a different county may only check the readings at the tailpipe opening. __________________ The Cobra might be gone... but the blue blood still runneth thru my veins. Snaker's Music Snaker's Myspace

August 21st, 2007, 02:34 PM	#10
tlgrant Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 318	yo, i dont know where your geting a sticker but in MA you NEED cats, a shop is suposed to fail u if you dont have them reguardless of the sniff test, i live right in NH on the line. i picked up my camaro fairly cheap from ma, and same with my stang... unless the shop is easy going on inspection or u know the guy... and OR pipe wont pass... __________________ 96 GT , cams,intake manifold,CAI,Exhaust,Full Hotchkis suspension, and many more

August 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM	#11
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 281	yeah i know the guy if its not throwing any codes its fine same with most shops __________________ bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter cobra R hood (has a vin#) 03 cobra rims

August 21st, 2007, 08:18 PM	#12
tlgrant Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 318	where are u form in MA __________________ 96 GT , cams,intake manifold,CAI,Exhaust,Full Hotchkis suspension, and many more

August 22nd, 2007, 01:36 AM	#13
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 281	canton __________________ bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter cobra R hood (has a vin#) 03 cobra rims

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