big problem need help

96gtponyred · August 20th, 2007, 01:09 AM

my car failed the mass inspection for emissions. the guy at the shop where i got my sticker said i need all the O2 sensors and the egr valve because it had 8 codes. i researched the codes and this is true. but i don't have the money to do all this right now cause im going back to school soon and cant work anymore but i need to get a sticker. here is my plan i was wondering what you guys thought and if it will work. i am going to clean and replace the egr myself and then i have a buddy who does custom exhausts so i was going to have him put an O/R x pipe or something with no cats and new mufflers and then install mils without changing the sensors so that my CEL wont throw anymore codes and will hopefully pass emissions (since there are no codes). i think this is the cheapest way to go and much better then just replacing the sensors for all that money and no hp gains like the new exhaust will. please help me and any other ideas will be aprieciated.

06RedfireGT · August 20th, 2007, 02:23 AM

do they measure the exhaust itself, as in what comes out of the tailpipe?

nes · August 20th, 2007, 02:37 AM

if they measure exhaust out the tailpipe... nes says you will still fail emissions.

kennyGT · August 20th, 2007, 03:02 AM

im can remember u asking about this before or some1 else, but if it is u and they only check for the codes, the MIL will work, but if they measure form ur tailpipes it iwll do nothing for u except take ur CEL off

Originally Posted by nes

nes says.

feeling a little confident lately

lol hows the car man?

beheivjer · August 20th, 2007, 11:44 AM

doing all that will cost more than just getting new o2s

G.T. Rags · August 20th, 2007, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by nes

if they measure exhaust out the tailpipe... nes says you will still fail emissions.

BS.......florida state emissions only check ur tail pipe and u can pass with an o/r pipe. Most speed shops i've been to can pass any catless GT 96 and up. Something about them burning cleaner then the 5.0's.

MustangMatt96GT · August 20th, 2007, 11:58 AM

mine passes the sniffer test, but i dont need one either!

96gtponyred · August 20th, 2007, 12:11 PM

they dont hook anything up to the tail pipe just to the computer and it would cost about the same because i know the exhaust guy and he hooks me up and i want to put an exhaust on anyway so i figure it will save me money

96Snaker · August 20th, 2007, 09:55 PM

Check with the local laws in your area. Some emission control stations in WA visually check for catalytic converters. As is the same when I lived in CA but not AZ. Emissions laws change yearly, and in different counties within states as well. One station may require cats, whereas one in a different county may only check the readings at the tailpipe opening.

tlgrant · August 21st, 2007, 03:34 PM

yo, i dont know where your geting a sticker but in MA you NEED cats, a shop is suposed to fail u if you dont have them reguardless of the sniff test, i live right in NH on the line. i picked up my camaro fairly cheap from ma, and same with my stang... unless the shop is easy going on inspection or u know the guy... and OR pipe wont pass...

96gtponyred · August 21st, 2007, 08:27 PM

yeah i know the guy if its not throwing any codes its fine same with most shops

tlgrant · August 21st, 2007, 09:18 PM

where are u form in MA

96gtponyred · August 22nd, 2007, 02:36 AM

canton

August 20th, 2007, 01:09 AM	#1
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 491 iTrader: 0 reviews	big problem need help my car failed the mass inspection for emissions. the guy at the shop where i got my sticker said i need all the O2 sensors and the egr valve because it had 8 codes. i researched the codes and this is true. but i don't have the money to do all this right now cause im going back to school soon and cant work anymore but i need to get a sticker. here is my plan i was wondering what you guys thought and if it will work. i am going to clean and replace the egr myself and then i have a buddy who does custom exhausts so i was going to have him put an O/R x pipe or something with no cats and new mufflers and then install mils without changing the sensors so that my CEL wont throw anymore codes and will hopefully pass emissions (since there are no codes). i think this is the cheapest way to go and much better then just replacing the sensors for all that money and no hp gains like the new exhaust will. please help me and any other ideas will be aprieciated.

August 20th, 2007, 02:23 AM	#2
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,211 iTrader: 2 reviews	do they measure the exhaust itself, as in what comes out of the tailpipe? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

August 20th, 2007, 02:37 AM	#3
nes Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 962 iTrader: 0 reviews	if they measure exhaust out the tailpipe... nes says you will still fail emissions. __________________ silver 98gt, blown- sold laser red 98gt, stock- gave away stormy blue 09 mazda3-traded 09 subaru wrx- soon to be 12 sec. daily driver 1988 gt- toy

August 20th, 2007, 11:44 AM	#5
beheivjer Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: belding, michigan Posts: 840 iTrader: 0 reviews	doing all that will cost more than just getting new o2s __________________ 1969 Early Bronco 3.5" lift 37" swampers 1969 Early Bronco 2" lift half cab 1979 2.3t Cobra 1997 Black Cobra http://www.cardomain.com/ride/680999 http://www.myspace.com/beheivjer

August 20th, 2007, 11:58 AM	#7
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	mine passes the sniffer test, but i dont need one either! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

August 20th, 2007, 12:11 PM	#8
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 491 iTrader: 0 reviews	they dont hook anything up to the tail pipe just to the computer and it would cost about the same because i know the exhaust guy and he hooks me up and i want to put an exhaust on anyway so i figure it will save me money __________________ cobra R hood (has a vin#) bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter 03 cobra rims 3.73's (on the way!!!)

August 20th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#9
96Snaker MM's Coffee Addict 1999 SVT Cobra 441rwhp/393rwtq Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,165 iTrader: 0 reviews	Check with the local laws in your area. Some emission control stations in WA visually check for catalytic converters. As is the same when I lived in CA but not AZ. Emissions laws change yearly, and in different counties within states as well. One station may require cats, whereas one in a different county may only check the readings at the tailpipe opening. __________________ Vortech V2, intercooled @ 10psi. Maximum Motorsports supsension goodie bag car less roll cage. Built '04 IRS. Hodge-podge of Roush/Stalker panels.

August 21st, 2007, 03:34 PM	#10
tlgrant Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 317 iTrader: 0 reviews	yo, i dont know where your geting a sticker but in MA you NEED cats, a shop is suposed to fail u if you dont have them reguardless of the sniff test, i live right in NH on the line. i picked up my camaro fairly cheap from ma, and same with my stang... unless the shop is easy going on inspection or u know the guy... and OR pipe wont pass... __________________ 96 GT , cams,intake manifold,CAI,Exhaust,Full Hotchkis suspension, and many more

August 21st, 2007, 08:27 PM	#11
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 491 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i know the guy if its not throwing any codes its fine same with most shops __________________ cobra R hood (has a vin#) bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter 03 cobra rims 3.73's (on the way!!!)

August 21st, 2007, 09:18 PM	#12
tlgrant Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 317 iTrader: 0 reviews	where are u form in MA __________________ 96 GT , cams,intake manifold,CAI,Exhaust,Full Hotchkis suspension, and many more

August 22nd, 2007, 02:36 AM	#13
96gtponyred Regular 94 cobra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 491 iTrader: 0 reviews	canton __________________ cobra R hood (has a vin#) bassani catback flows welded in jegs O/R H-pipe Jlt CAI Mgw shifter 03 cobra rims 3.73's (on the way!!!)

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