[96gtponyred]

my car has 144k on it i was wondering if it would be worth it to do a cam and pi swap or just do bolt ons and beat the piss out of it till it shits the bed and just swap it out.

[Fryrice]

All the bolt ons in the world will not make as much power as the PI swap. All the money you would spend for "full bolt ons" would be more than a swap if you shop right.

144k isnt a lot of miles on these cars if the motor is maintained properly and isnt spun to 6k rpm everyday. Ive had my engine apart at 92k and the pistons/sleeves look brand new with the exception of some carbon deposits.

Do the swap ,change your oil regularly and drive it for another 50k.

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by Fryrice All the bolt ons in the world will not make as much power as the PI swap. All the money you would spend for "full bolt ons" would be more than a swap if you shop right.

Even if he got ripped off with a PI swap he'd still spend more on full bolt ons....

Unless he does aftermarket cams n heads he ain't ever gonna have an edge on a PI stang

[Fryrice]

I have PI heads with VT cams,and Ill walk any stock 99-04 on the street. If he did only PI components he would have an edge in power over a 99-04 with his pistons.

Dont forget about the C/R difference in a swapped 96-98 .Extra power.

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by Fryrice I have PI heads with VT cams,and Ill walk any stock 99-04 on the street. If he did only PI components he would have an edge in power over a 99-04 with his pistons. Dont forget about the C/R difference in a swapped 96-98 .Extra power.

from what i gather its only an extra 5 hp....

i like ur set up by the way. I plan on going the same route, but just haven't decideds on what cam to use

[Fryrice]

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop Originally Posted by Fryrice I have PI heads with VT cams,and Ill walk any stock 99-04 on the street. If he did only PI components he would have an edge in power over a 99-04 with his pistons. Dont forget about the C/R difference in a swapped 96-98 .Extra power. from what i gather its only an extra 5 hp.... i like ur set up by the way. I plan on going the same route, but just haven't decideds on what cam to use

Man I love this set-up .The cams sound great when idling and souns like war when accelerating . I get looks and comments all the time. Especially with the O/R H and Flows. Im very happy with it . The only suggestion i would make is get the blower cams if you think you might S/C it in thr future. Mine are N/A.

You really need the gears with these cams and a GOOD tune to dial them in right. But you can clearly see in my sig how much power they bring. I dont remember how much of a bump it is,but it does give a decent edge. But the cams is where the big numbers come in.

[MustangMatt96GT]

Now u just need a set of these!

[Fryrice]

^ Mmmmmmm very nice. Those your Matt ? Give me some numbers on those.

[MustangMatt96GT]

Im not selling them! I just got them today! lol Mounted on my Prostars!

[G.T. Rags]

yea.......so close to the 300 mark too......

[96gtponyred]

so you dont i should do like suspension and some body upgrades maybe gears, headers stuff like that by then this engine will be shit, and swap it out for a new one and then mod the hell out of it

[G.T. Rags]

u can get almost 200k out of a 4.6 if properly maintained

what kind of condition is she in?

[Fryrice]

Originally Posted by 96gtponyred so you dont i should do like suspension and some body upgrades maybe gears, headers stuff like that by then this engine will be shit, and swap it out for a new one and then mod the hell out of it

Your missin some words in there.

Matt, I meant give us the size of those rubbers and wheels and a price.

[AnglicoGT98]

Matt, I meant give us the size of those rubbers and wheels and a price.[/quote]

Yeah, I read Matt's reply and I was like WTF!?? lol. Those thing look sick by the way dude! Let's get some sizes and prices if you don't mind...

96gtponyred - Do the swap! Everyone that's chimed in so far really knows their shit especially about PI swaps. I got everything for mine and will be doing it shortly. It makes your car really wake up! It will be better in the long run.

[Fryrice]

Originally Posted by AnglicoGT98 Matt, I meant give us the size of those rubbers and wheels and a price.

Yeah, I read Matt's reply and I was like WTF!?? lol. Those thing look sick by the way dude! Let's get some sizes and prices if you don't mind...

96gtponyred - Do the swap! Everyone that's chimed in so far really knows their shit especially about PI swaps. I got everything for mine and will be doing it shortly. It makes your car really wake up! It will be better in the long run.[/quote]

Let us know when you get that goin so we can give some pointers. Not that you need them,but make it a little easier.

[AnglicoGT98]

I will definately be posting it up here and asking ALOT of questions. And I know I'll need pointers. As a side note, I don't know if anyone has checked out the Poweradders section...but I have a turbo kit going in about a month after the PI swap so that will be fun
I plan on doing write ups on both...And wait until you see how much this turbo kit costs...everyone will be boosting after that...

Sorry to get off topic....96gtponyred...If you need a "shopping list" let me know.. I posted a complete list of what all is needed for the swap as well as some other people's input also and some suggested other parts....

[ujslost]

Originally Posted by Fryrice All the bolt ons in the world will not make as much power as the PI swap.

(coughs) BULLSHIT! Bolt on a supercharger or turbo or N2O and and I bet you it makes as much power as the PI swap. Technically, these are BOLT ONS, cept maybe the nitrous.

[Fryrice]

Originally Posted by ujslost Originally Posted by Fryrice All the bolt ons in the world will not make as much power as the PI swap. (coughs) BULLSHIT! Bolt on a supercharger or turbo or N2O and and I bet you it makes as much power as the PI swap. Technically, these are BOLT ONS, cept maybe the nitrous.

Ahhhh come on now. You know what I mean.

[ujslost]

I know bro! I was being an

[MustangMatt96GT]

15x10 Prostars
15x3.5 Prostars

26x7.5x15 Sportman rubber up front
26x10.5x15 ET streets On back

I paid 650 with shipping for the wheels and lugs and front tires. The rears were shot, so I went and bought some of them and they were 375 with mounting and balancein!