[ZoomZoomMFer]

installing just the pi intake is awesome but wont doing the whole heads cam and intake give you the full effect?

[G.T. Rags]

yes, thats why there's something called a PI swap...about 55rwhp

use the search feature and u'll find plenty of info on it

[ujslost]

IMO PI heads arent worth installing unless they have some porting and polishing work done to them, and from what I understand the NPI are actually better responders to the P&P work.

[ZoomZoomMFer]

so wat is the hp gain on just the intake swap

[ujslost]

15 hp? IIRC

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by ujslost 15 hp? IIRC

i tihnk it's a bit more then that.......the whole swap is good for around 45-50rwhp.....with the heads only giving about 5.....

i'd say he should be able to get 20.....

[ujslost]

ok, i wasnt sure, its been so long since anyone ask us that.

[ZoomZoomMFer]

so other than the heads wat else is good for that 50 hp gain

[G.T. Rags]

PI cams...cost about 100 bux good for about 20-25hp......

but if ur gonna keep stock NPI heads u might as well upgrade to an aftermarket cam........

u'll see an extra 35-40hp gain on top of just PI cams

[ZoomZoomMFer]

ive heard good things about the vt cams? where can i get a set?... but doin just the intake and a/m cam should be a good gain?

[G.T. Rags]

theres a guy on this site with the FULL swap......

he's also got an exhaust and tune and CAI, he's pushing awound 289???

So figure he gained but he's got bumped compression which is good for making power, so figure without the heads u'll gain around 80-85

[ZoomZoomMFer]

o hell thats a good enough gain for me with just intake and cams... and its not even that expensive... cause i already have flowmaster 40's on mine

[G.T. Rags]

ur looking at around 800 for the cams and springs........

150 for the PI intake.....

oil change and coolant change another 50-100 depending on ur oil....

gaskets and the nipple and therm is another 50 bux....

tuner and/or custom tune can run u around 350-1000, depending on whether u go both ways or not....

so yeah, for around 2k u can gain aome decent power......with suspension uprgrades and some gears u'll be in the 13's.....maybe even LS1 territory

[MustangMatt96GT]

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop .....maybe even LS1 territory

Uh not! lol

even though there are some slow LS1s here at my track, I mean I have raced on and beaten it??

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop .....maybe even LS1 territory Uh not! lol even though there are some slow LS1s here at my track, I mean I have raced on and beaten it??

a 280rwhp mustang with gears and suspesion is gonna be able to keep up with an LS1........it might get run down past 100 MPH, but it'll hang

[MustangMatt96GT]

if driven correctly and on slicks or DR

[G.T. Rags]

i know those LS1's are nasty, i should put it this way......

a 280rwhp mustang will keep up with a Z28 like a Z28 can run with a vette...

[ujslost]

hijacking this thread for a minute.
I rode with a guy at work the otherday in his camaro. Of course I was in the passenger seat. I just want to say, whats up with that fuckin floor board? I couldnt get my legs and feet in a comfortable position for shit.

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by ujslost hijacking this thread for a minute. I rode with a guy at work the otherday in his camaro. Of course I was in the passenger seat. I just want to say, whats up with that fuckin floor board? I couldnt get my legs and feet in a comfortable position for shit.

haha........its called the drive train isn't really meant for that car....it used to drive me nuts back in the day when my friends still had there SS and Trans AM.....

[tlgrant]

its where the cat is located on a stock exhaust system... never realy bothered me on mine cuz my gf allways sat over there haha