HP gains.

bbrewer03 · September 22nd, 2007, 12:57 AM

On a 97 GT what kind of gains will you recieve with some patriot stage 3 heads and performance cams? Car has pulleys, cold air intake flowmasters. Just currious, respond if you wish.

TurboLX · September 22nd, 2007, 02:19 AM

problably a 20hp gain depending on the tune

nes · September 22nd, 2007, 02:28 AM

i wouldnt be surprised if u agained 100rwhp from stage 3 heads and some cams...

G.T. Rags · September 22nd, 2007, 01:46 PM

i'd say around 75-90......

ur tune will make or beak u

ChrisJ · September 22nd, 2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

i'd say around 75-90......

ur tune will make or beak u

I have to agree with this...

Also this will depend on supporting mods as well...

jersey98gt · September 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM

stage 3 is a dead end for street cars, you better have 4.10s

bbrewer03 · September 22nd, 2007, 03:25 PM

HMM, not bad. In my mind I thought it would push me to about 300 hp, but I wasn't for sure. Seeing that the cobra of the same model gets that and the only difference is intake and heads (4v though).
The reason I'm asking in the first place is I'm wanting to baby step up to a s/c or turbo. I dont just wanna throw one on there and tare everything to hell.
Why do you say its dead end for street cars? Do you lose torque?

EDIT: or would I see more gains from port and polishing my current heads then getting cams.

jersey98gt · September 22nd, 2007, 04:21 PM

you loose a shit ton of torque, and driveabilty will go down, they are more for full blown racing application. Boomer knows this crap more being that he is porter, but i think that patriot performance heads come in stages and are set accordingly to their port, so a stage 1 has a worse port than a stage 2...etc etc

bbrewer03 · September 22nd, 2007, 05:13 PM

I was comparing the numbers and stage 2 vs 3 wasnt incredibly different. i still dont understand if you got well we will say stage 2 heads, cams, and a good tune why things wouldnt be good. Wouldnt the tune be what effects driveablity for the most part.

G.T. Rags · September 22nd, 2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by bbrewer03

HMM, not bad. In my mind I thought it would push me to about 300 hp, but I wasn't for sure. Seeing that the cobra of the same model gets that and the only difference is intake and heads (4v though).
The reason I'm asking in the first place is I'm wanting to baby step up to a s/c or turbo. I dont just wanna throw one on there and tare everything to hell.
Why do you say its dead end for street cars? Do you lose torque?

EDIT: or would I see more gains from port and polishing my current heads then getting cams.

u'll see more of a gain with aftermarket cams. U've got an NPI motor, so u can see increases as much as 50rwhp from aftermarket cams and a good tune.

i'd say ur gonna gain about 20-25rwhp by the P&P

it's very hard to see over 300hp with the SOHC 4.6 unless u mod the crap out of her

September 22nd, 2007, 12:57 AM	#1
bbrewer03 Regular 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	HP gains. On a 97 GT what kind of gains will you recieve with some patriot stage 3 heads and performance cams? Car has pulleys, cold air intake flowmasters. Just currious, respond if you wish. __________________ 1997 GT Cobra R Hood, Cobra Front bumper, MSD plug wires, Tailights, Projector headlights, 18x9 chrome bullet wheels in front and 18x10s in back, Tunable Induction Cold air intake, flowmaster mufflers. 4.10 Gears.

September 22nd, 2007, 02:19 AM	#2
TurboLX I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 Mustang LX Turbo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,778 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	problably a 20hp gain depending on the tune __________________ 1988 LX Coupe 2.5L, GT35R, 44mm WG, 32psi, C16.

September 22nd, 2007, 02:28 AM	#3
nes Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 962 iTrader: 0 reviews	i wouldnt be surprised if u agained 100rwhp from stage 3 heads and some cams... __________________ silver 98gt, blown- sold laser red 98gt, stock- gave away stormy blue 09 mazda3-traded 09 subaru wrx- soon to be 12 sec. daily driver 1988 gt- toy

September 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM	#6
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661 iTrader: 0 reviews	stage 3 is a dead end for street cars, you better have 4.10s __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

September 22nd, 2007, 03:25 PM	#7
bbrewer03 Regular 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	HMM, not bad. In my mind I thought it would push me to about 300 hp, but I wasn't for sure. Seeing that the cobra of the same model gets that and the only difference is intake and heads (4v though). The reason I'm asking in the first place is I'm wanting to baby step up to a s/c or turbo. I dont just wanna throw one on there and tare everything to hell. Why do you say its dead end for street cars? Do you lose torque? EDIT: or would I see more gains from port and polishing my current heads then getting cams. __________________ 1997 GT Cobra R Hood, Cobra Front bumper, MSD plug wires, Tailights, Projector headlights, 18x9 chrome bullet wheels in front and 18x10s in back, Tunable Induction Cold air intake, flowmaster mufflers. 4.10 Gears.

September 22nd, 2007, 04:21 PM	#8
jersey98gt Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 661 iTrader: 0 reviews	you loose a shit ton of torque, and driveabilty will go down, they are more for full blown racing application. Boomer knows this crap more being that he is porter, but i think that patriot performance heads come in stages and are set accordingly to their port, so a stage 1 has a worse port than a stage 2...etc etc __________________ -BBK CAI, BASSANI CB + X, SCT 93 tune, 4.10s, Cobra brakes, Cobra R wrapped in nitto 555 tire. -College Football and studies take up the bulk of my time.

September 22nd, 2007, 05:13 PM	#9
bbrewer03 Regular 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was comparing the numbers and stage 2 vs 3 wasnt incredibly different. i still dont understand if you got well we will say stage 2 heads, cams, and a good tune why things wouldnt be good. Wouldnt the tune be what effects driveablity for the most part. __________________ 1997 GT Cobra R Hood, Cobra Front bumper, MSD plug wires, Tailights, Projector headlights, 18x9 chrome bullet wheels in front and 18x10s in back, Tunable Induction Cold air intake, flowmaster mufflers. 4.10 Gears.

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