[G.T. Rags]

Some of u may or may not know this, but I'm "The Guy" my friends turn to when it comes to modding, and even finding out whats wrong with there car. I don't know much, I get most of my information from right here, it's just that i have the willingness and dedication to the mustang to sit down and find out whats what. My friends would rather hand me there credit card, then go to a shop and put it in there hands. Especially the one with the 98, which i need some help on.

I've pretty much modded his car out, told him what to put in it, and when. Well he's at a point now, where there's nothing he can really do to the car 4 him to notice and differnece without spending some cash. He wants things done PRO too, so that right there kills.

here are his list of mods-
gay metal CAI with K&N filter---------------Mac Cat Back
FRPP 3.73 ----------------------------------- Mac Pro Chamber o/r H
Steeda Tri-Ax ------------------------------- Steeda UDP
PI Intake

We've been quoted at approx 2000 for a NPI aftermarket cam install, but were told to only expect an increase in about 20 rwhp. For a aftermarket PI cam install, we were quoted at about 2500, but were told to only expect the same 20 rwhp differance over stock NPI cams.

He also is then going to have to have the car dynotuned afterwards, and thats going to cost 500-750, depending on his choice of software.

Now he wants the car lowered and at the same time I'm going to have him put control arms in. But thats most likely not going to be until next spring.

I've pretty much got full access and an easy button to push when it comes to modding his car. I just need to know what to do. He wants to get the thing to 300rwhp NA, but i'm being told thats close to impossible with NPI heads.

[mystang0673]

you are very correct... haha.. i have a pi motor with full bolt ons and all i have left are headers and heads and cams. and a guy im talking to about working my heads said its gonna put me around 320rwhp. but again.. thats with pi heads and all... and the only thing that are actually giving him power is the exhaust, udp, intake, and cai. so you still have throttle body and plenum. most people suggest trickflow or accufab.. I personally bought the prof products setup but i also bought the typhoon intake... headers would be a good investment... $500 plus install.... i would do a pi headswap and be done with it.. you should be around 300rwhp with that... but... it will boost your compression... So... if he wants to spray it that would be a great idea, if he wants to run fi then not so good. so here is what i would do... 1. headers, 2. throttle body and plenum, 3. pi swap, 4. dyno tune.

[G.T. Rags]

yeah, i know all these things, I've got a list of what he needs done to the car before he goes full bolt on.......

what i meant when i entitled the thread "at that certain point" was because he's ready to spend $ to get some pretty decent gains.

Ujstlost last night, when talking about my car brought up the fact that if you do the mod that gives u a decent amount of power right off the bat, ur going to see so much better results with the supporting mods. We put exhaust n a shifter on his car and he was happy for a week. We put gears in it and he was pretty content for a week. PI intake and UDP made him smile, but only for 2 days.

He bassically dropped $2500 bux into his car, and he feels that he would have been happier doing everything all at once, as apposed to over 5 months. I guess that smart idea thingy in his head clicked, and he dicided to just drop 2k in at once. But he wants RESULTS.

We thought cams were the way to go, and we want to try and keep them in NPI heads. We figure right now we lowballed him at 220rwhp. We want to get him to around 275 with NO head work and NO nitrous. We'd love to see 300 but I've been told I'd have better luck licking my own ass.

Keep in mind I'm aware we won't get those numbers without full bolt ons, but i was told that even with that and cams i'm all up in the grundle.

[MustangMatt96GT]

Go with suspension at this point IMO. The car will feel completely different, and then next time he has time to dump 3 grand into the car, do a PI swap, or go ahead and go NPI cams. Both would be aftermarket at that point.

[G.T. Rags]

yeah, but i was told that aftermarket cams are only going to give him about 20 rwhp.......

[MustangMatt96GT]

lol

it depends, if you get a custom ground cam you can see alot more, and with a free flowing exhaust the cams will work much better.

[G.T. Rags]

the cars got exhuast......

it's not my car, it's my friends

[MustangMatt96GT]

yea i know u have a 96 like mine!


and I say go with some long tube headers, or even shorties( going with long tube will be better, and then you can asked to buy the prochamber cheap) and go with a set of custom ground cams. PM boomer about the complete plans of the car and he will talk about the set up he would go with. He now has a business to take care of all of this. He will be your best bet IMO.