Exhaust Setup

98SilverStang · November 21st, 2007, 09:51 PM

hey guys i plan on going with this setup for an exhaust...

1. Hooker Longtubes
2. Hooker Catless H-pipe
3. Hooker Catback Exhaust

is there any thing else i need? or will that be the whole exhaust system..

JohnC · November 21st, 2007, 10:00 PM

1) Use new stock Ford exhaust gaskets.
2) Use stage 8 locking header bolts
3) TQ every header bolt to spec
4) Tune with rear 02's turned off.

If those headers are so tight that you can't get to the bolts to TQ them, or can't use a stage 8 locking bolt, use the supplied bolts and loctite on the header bolts.

I know my BBK shorty header tubes went over some of the bolts, so I couldn't tq them all.

JohnC · November 21st, 2007, 10:02 PM

Oh yeah, if you're doing this yourself, plan on dropping the K member. I've done 3 sets of headers on SN95 modular cars and the best way is dropping the K.

supercharged421 · November 21st, 2007, 10:19 PM

Mac L/T headers

JohnC · November 21st, 2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by supercharged421

Mac L/T headers

Yep, had those before and had room to TQ them all. If I ever build a new motor, new MAC LT's will go back on.

supercharged421 · November 21st, 2007, 10:29 PM

ohhh yeah. the are BEASTT

98SilverStang · November 21st, 2007, 10:43 PM

y do you say mac over hooker? doesnt hooker have a better rep

supercharged421 · November 21st, 2007, 10:54 PM

hooker has good rep
but i love the mac L/T headers

my advice is....
Mac L/T headers, go to an exhaust shop and have the headers put on and have them make you a true dual set up, custom H pipe, and flowmaster original 40's or mac mufflers

supercharged421 · November 21st, 2007, 10:55 PM

trust me.
you will love them

RandoGT · November 21st, 2007, 11:08 PM

or get some MAC LTs, Prochamber, and some SLPs or Magnapacks outback. yikes

98SilverStang · November 21st, 2007, 11:12 PM

cool thanks man

JohnC · November 22nd, 2007, 01:27 PM

Here is what I'm talking about when I say if you can get a TQ wrench on every bolt. And this is with the motor mounts off the block. If the mounts had been on, it would have been even worse.

BBK shorty headers on my PI motor:

MustangMatt96GT · November 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM

I have hooker longtubes and ceramic coated with matching X pipe going on in the next month or so!

ANybody have detailed instructions how to drop the k member?

97Cobra · November 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM

its not that hard... Ill find you a link real quick...

JohnC · November 22nd, 2007, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

I have hooker longtubes and ceramic coated with matching X pipe going on in the next month or so!

ANybody have detailed instructions how to drop the k member?

What I can recall is...

Jack the car up with enough room under it to perform the work and support it on jack stands under rear axle and front frame rails just behind the K-member.

Unbolt the steering shaft. Mark the shaft when it slips/bolts together to make sure you get it right. Make 100% sure to re-torque to spec when you reinstall it.

Remove the front rims.

Remove the brake calipers and hang them with an old wire coat hanger. Don't let them hang by the brake lines.

Slide off the brake discs and set them aside.

Unbolt the shock from the 2 bolts at the bottom. It's easier to do unless you air tools to break the top nut loose.

Unbolt the steering rack and slide it off and unbolt the tie rods. Support the steering rack.

Unbolt the sway bar from the ends.

Unbolt the motor mounts.

Support the engine with a floor jack and use a block of wood between the engine and jack.

Use another jack to support the K member and unbolt the two bolts in each wheel well and the one on each side towards the floor board. Lower it down slowly and have a friend help balance it if needed. Keep an eye on the springs while lowering it as well.

Make sure to mark or scribe around the K member where it bolts to the car to make sure it’s reinstalled in proper alignment.

Installation is reverse of removal. Be sure to TQ everything back to spec per the service manual. If you don't have a TQ wrench, you can get one at sears for about $80-$100. I would get a 3/8 and a 1/2 drive TQ wrench.

Hope this helps and that I didn't forget something. It's been like two years since I dropped a K member.

MustangMatt96GT · November 22nd, 2007, 03:31 PM

Yeah i have to buy 3 new torque wrenches! Owel!

Thanks sounds pretty simple. And i would do everything, except put in the new UPR instead of the old one back right?

JohnC · November 22nd, 2007, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Yeah i have to buy 3 new torque wrenches! Owel!

Thanks sounds pretty simple. And i would do everything, except put in the new UPR instead of the old one back right?

If you have an after-market tube K member, I suggest using the plumb bob method to align the K properly. That is how the higher end manufactures suggest installing a new tube K.

Google it and there should be instructions for it.

97Cobra · November 22nd, 2007, 04:08 PM

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97Cobra · November 22nd, 2007, 04:13 PM

How-to: Install a tubular K-member [Archive] - BuckeyeStangs Message Forums
tubular k member install

MustangMatt96GT · November 22nd, 2007, 04:39 PM

Thanks guys! Sounds pretty easy!

November 21st, 2007, 09:51 PM	#1
98SilverStang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,011	Exhaust Setup hey guys i plan on going with this setup for an exhaust... 1. Hooker Longtubes 2. Hooker Catless H-pipe 3. Hooker Catback Exhaust is there any thing else i need? or will that be the whole exhaust system..

November 21st, 2007, 10:00 PM	#2
JohnC Regular 1997 Mustang GT 13.56@102.94 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Murfreesboro and Old Hickory, TN Posts: 338	1) Use new stock Ford exhaust gaskets. 2) Use stage 8 locking header bolts 3) TQ every header bolt to spec 4) Tune with rear 02's turned off. If those headers are so tight that you can't get to the bolts to TQ them, or can't use a stage 8 locking bolt, use the supplied bolts and loctite on the header bolts. I know my BBK shorty header tubes went over some of the bolts, so I couldn't tq them all. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT Aluminum Block PI swap & 4R70W to TR3550 swapped. Best 1/8: 2.04 60ft 8.74@81.85 & Best 1/4: 2.04 60ft 13.56@102.94 all on stock 245-17's My Garage

November 21st, 2007, 10:02 PM	#3
JohnC Regular 1997 Mustang GT 13.56@102.94 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Murfreesboro and Old Hickory, TN Posts: 338	Oh yeah, if you're doing this yourself, plan on dropping the K member. I've done 3 sets of headers on SN95 modular cars and the best way is dropping the K. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT Aluminum Block PI swap & 4R70W to TR3550 swapped. Best 1/8: 2.04 60ft 8.74@81.85 & Best 1/4: 2.04 60ft 13.56@102.94 all on stock 245-17's My Garage

November 22nd, 2007, 01:27 PM	#12
JohnC Regular 1997 Mustang GT 13.56@102.94 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Murfreesboro and Old Hickory, TN Posts: 338	Here is what I'm talking about when I say if you can get a TQ wrench on every bolt. And this is with the motor mounts off the block. If the mounts had been on, it would have been even worse. BBK shorty headers on my PI motor: Attached Thumbnails __________________ 1997 Mustang GT Aluminum Block PI swap & 4R70W to TR3550 swapped. Best 1/8: 2.04 60ft 8.74@81.85 & Best 1/4: 2.04 60ft 13.56@102.94 all on stock 245-17's My Garage

November 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,306	I have hooker longtubes and ceramic coated with matching X pipe going on in the next month or so! ANybody have detailed instructions how to drop the k member? __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

November 21st, 2007, 10:19 PM	#4
supercharged421 Regular 2004 Mustang n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 140	Mac L/T headers

November 21st, 2007, 10:29 PM	#6
supercharged421 Regular 2004 Mustang n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 140	ohhh yeah. the are BEASTT

November 21st, 2007, 10:43 PM	#7
98SilverStang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,011	y do you say mac over hooker? doesnt hooker have a better rep

November 21st, 2007, 10:54 PM	#8
supercharged421 Regular 2004 Mustang n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 140	hooker has good rep but i love the mac L/T headers my advice is.... Mac L/T headers, go to an exhaust shop and have the headers put on and have them make you a true dual set up, custom H pipe, and flowmaster original 40's or mac mufflers

November 21st, 2007, 10:55 PM	#9
supercharged421 Regular 2004 Mustang n/a Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 140	trust me. you will love them

November 21st, 2007, 11:08 PM	#10
RandoGT Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track Join Date: May 2007 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 845	or get some MAC LTs, Prochamber, and some SLPs or Magnapacks outback. yikes

November 21st, 2007, 11:12 PM	#11
98SilverStang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,011	cool thanks man

November 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM	#14
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 6,518	its not that hard... Ill find you a link real quick... __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

November 22nd, 2007, 03:31 PM	#16
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,306	Yeah i have to buy 3 new torque wrenches! Owel! Thanks sounds pretty simple. And i would do everything, except put in the new UPR instead of the old one back right? __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

November 22nd, 2007, 04:08 PM	#18
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 6,518	D&D Auto Detailing \| __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

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November 22nd, 2007, 04:13 PM	#19
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 6,518	How-to: Install a tubular K-member [Archive] - BuckeyeStangs Message Forums tubular k member install __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

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MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,306	Thanks guys! Sounds pretty easy! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.