PI cams and Intake with NPI heads

KIKa55GT · January 16th, 2008, 10:00 AM

Is it possible to install PI cams and Intake with out the use of a PI head?
I was wondering becasuse I wanted install a PI cam and Intake and just port my heads. Would this give more power than a stock PI Mustang GT?

Casper98GT · January 16th, 2008, 10:21 AM

check out my stickys at the top of the page

KIKa55GT · January 16th, 2008, 10:33 AM

Sorry, but I'm a noob to this site. I just joined actually. I don't know how to find your sticky's that your talking about.

RandoGT · January 16th, 2008, 10:52 AM

they're one of the very first topics. just look at the top 5 or so topics, those are stickies

Casper98GT · January 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Cam Swap On SOHC 4.6 1998 GT

Casper98GT · January 16th, 2008, 03:50 PM

NPI to PI Intake Swap...

GTnightrider · January 17th, 2008, 10:44 AM

you can do the pi cam and intake swap with out the pi heads my buddy did it this summer and the car is fine if your wondering if it will not give you more power the heads are only worth like 5 hp power but you'll be safe without the heads

jlaw98gt · January 17th, 2008, 04:13 PM

if u call using silicone safe then go for it big guy....

Casper98GT · January 17th, 2008, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by jlaw98gt

if u call using silicone safe then go for it big guy....

RandoGT · January 17th, 2008, 11:14 PM

haha, i'd listen to Casper. he is the Ford tech after all

Uncle Humjaba · January 18th, 2008, 01:52 AM

What is it with you and silicone jlaw? What do you think o-rings and the like are made of? They wouldn't sell kits that include this if it weren't safe...

jlaw98gt · January 18th, 2008, 01:17 PM

i think its half assing it personally...im entitled to an opinion arent i....yes...thankyou

96GTRagTop · January 18th, 2008, 02:21 PM

It's not halfassing, half-assing would be not using the silicone and throwing it on there with just the gasket.....

I've had my mods done for 4 months, haven't had 1 issue with the silicone leaking or whatever.

Besides, all modding had to start somewhere, a part has to be fabbed from scratch before it can be cut from a mold man.

nes · January 18th, 2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

It's not halfassing, half-assing would be not using the silicone and throwing it on there with just the gasket.....

I've had my mods done for 4 months, haven't had 1 issue with the silicone leaking or whatever.

Besides, all modding had to start somewhere, a part has to be fabbed from scratch before it can be cut from a mold man.

i think i half assed mine.

but i used silicone, used heater hose instead of a coolant tube, and broke a couple mani bolts when i was torquing them... sad but the car ran like a beast

96GTRagTop · January 18th, 2008, 02:44 PM

that is def hafassing dude.......

Casper98GT · January 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM

Nothing wrong with using heater hose insted of the PI tube. Works just fine. I have done 2 of them with heater hose.

Sorry but i gotta agree with jl, it is halfassed. Its stuff fitting on top of other stuff thats not supposed to be there. Its NOT perfect or safe in anyway. But i had run mine that way for a long time and never had a single problem also have done others using this method. If you think about it though. if it were a perfect match i would use silicone and say its perfect. Because there are alot of manufactures that use silicone to seal up, oil and coolant passages. If i knew anyone who did it correctly and then had problems then i would say its not a good idea, but never met anyone yet with problems. Some have when they do it wrong, but oh well.

jlaw98gt · January 19th, 2008, 01:39 PM

^^^^ thankyou....my dads been mechanic for 35 years lol...i think he would know....its his car not minei just drive it and get to look good in it...so if he didnt want pi intake..the car doesnt get pi intake...

96GTRagTop · January 19th, 2008, 02:41 PM

ur the one missing out dude......

jlaw98gt · January 19th, 2008, 03:01 PM

no im not...because eventaully i will do the swap the right way with the heads...and intake...so no im not missing out on anything..

96GTRagTop · January 19th, 2008, 03:08 PM

well u never said that.........

my car will eventually see the whole swap too, but thats years down the line, after she's blown. (s/c)

January 16th, 2008, 10:00 AM	#1
KIKa55GT Newbie 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 22	PI cams and Intake with NPI heads Is it possible to install PI cams and Intake with out the use of a PI head? I was wondering becasuse I wanted install a PI cam and Intake and just port my heads. Would this give more power than a stock PI Mustang GT?

January 16th, 2008, 10:21 AM	#2
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,317	check out my stickys at the top of the page __________________ Ford/Toyota tech. -93 LX, X303 heads, F-cam, Trickflow u/l, 1.6 RR, FR wires, MSD cap/rotor, Elec. fan, a/c delete, smog delete, sn95 fuel rails with BBK regulator, 75mm TB and EGR, Vortech S-trim w/intercooler, 42lb inj/PMAS, 3.55's -

January 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM	#5
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,317	Cam Swap On SOHC 4.6 1998 GT __________________ Ford/Toyota tech. -93 LX, X303 heads, F-cam, Trickflow u/l, 1.6 RR, FR wires, MSD cap/rotor, Elec. fan, a/c delete, smog delete, sn95 fuel rails with BBK regulator, 75mm TB and EGR, Vortech S-trim w/intercooler, 42lb inj/PMAS, 3.55's -

January 16th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#6
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,317	NPI to PI Intake Swap... __________________ Ford/Toyota tech. -93 LX, X303 heads, F-cam, Trickflow u/l, 1.6 RR, FR wires, MSD cap/rotor, Elec. fan, a/c delete, smog delete, sn95 fuel rails with BBK regulator, 75mm TB and EGR, Vortech S-trim w/intercooler, 42lb inj/PMAS, 3.55's -

January 17th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#8
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: northern new jersey Posts: 1,735	if u call using silicone safe then go for it big guy.... __________________ ECCAFA NJS 98 gt with a few bolt ons

January 16th, 2008, 10:33 AM	#3
KIKa55GT Newbie 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 22	Sorry, but I'm a noob to this site. I just joined actually. I don't know how to find your sticky's that your talking about.

January 16th, 2008, 10:52 AM	#4
RandoGT Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track Join Date: May 2007 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 813	they're one of the very first topics. just look at the top 5 or so topics, those are stickies

January 17th, 2008, 10:44 AM	#7
GTnightrider Newbie 96' Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Souderton, PA Posts: 22	you can do the pi cam and intake swap with out the pi heads my buddy did it this summer and the car is fine if your wondering if it will not give you more power the heads are only worth like 5 hp power but you'll be safe without the heads

January 17th, 2008, 11:14 PM	#10
RandoGT Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track Join Date: May 2007 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 813	haha, i'd listen to Casper. he is the Ford tech after all

January 18th, 2008, 01:52 AM	#11
Uncle Humjaba Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Premium 15.2@91 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 521	What is it with you and silicone jlaw? What do you think o-rings and the like are made of? They wouldn't sell kits that include this if it weren't safe... __________________ "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

January 18th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#12
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: northern new jersey Posts: 1,735	i think its half assing it personally...im entitled to an opinion arent i....yes...thankyou

January 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#16
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,317	Nothing wrong with using heater hose insted of the PI tube. Works just fine. I have done 2 of them with heater hose. Sorry but i gotta agree with jl, it is halfassed. Its stuff fitting on top of other stuff thats not supposed to be there. Its NOT perfect or safe in anyway. But i had run mine that way for a long time and never had a single problem also have done others using this method. If you think about it though. if it were a perfect match i would use silicone and say its perfect. Because there are alot of manufactures that use silicone to seal up, oil and coolant passages. If i knew anyone who did it correctly and then had problems then i would say its not a good idea, but never met anyone yet with problems. Some have when they do it wrong, but oh well. __________________ Ford/Toyota tech. -93 LX, X303 heads, F-cam, Trickflow u/l, 1.6 RR, FR wires, MSD cap/rotor, Elec. fan, a/c delete, smog delete, sn95 fuel rails with BBK regulator, 75mm TB and EGR, Vortech S-trim w/intercooler, 42lb inj/PMAS, 3.55's -

January 19th, 2008, 01:39 PM	#17
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: northern new jersey Posts: 1,735	^^^^ thankyou....my dads been mechanic for 35 years lol...i think he would know....its his car not minei just drive it and get to look good in it...so if he didnt want pi intake..the car doesnt get pi intake... __________________ ECCAFA NJS 98 gt with a few bolt ons

January 19th, 2008, 03:01 PM	#19
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: northern new jersey Posts: 1,735	no im not...because eventaully i will do the swap the right way with the heads...and intake...so no im not missing out on anything.. __________________ ECCAFA NJS 98 gt with a few bolt ons

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