cobra engine or pi swap?

mexlatino · February 5th, 2008, 08:56 AM

I dont know which to do. I am looking at buying a used cobra engine or doing the pi swap. I want to get to 300hp, and i know its gonna cost me both ways, ill like to know which is best and more cost efficent. I have a 98 stang gt with about 80k on the engine. should i just wait a little more to add more miles to the engine and then do the engine swap or should i invest money on doing the pi swap and get it to 300hp. any suggestions? opinions?

KingChronic · February 5th, 2008, 11:13 AM

with ported PI heads, better cams, and pull bolt on's you can get 300RWHP

NMR-2vGT · February 5th, 2008, 11:46 AM

The only way i would do a cobra swap is by actually buying a cobra. IMO it wouldnt be worth the time and money to do a cobra swap. I say build your motor with PI stuff and go from there.

Goblin · February 5th, 2008, 12:29 PM

Cobra swap would be the way to go. Its easy to find a 96-98 cobra motor for under $3000... I found a 98 cobra motor complete for $1500. All you would need is the motor itself, you could use your 98 computer, wiring harness and fuel system, along with your T45.. it would basically just be plug and play. The cobra motor is also a better foundation for further improvements.

stanglifemike · February 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Also check out Mach 1 motors, same as the Cobra. My local mod shop can get them for 3k with decent miles.

10"Terror · February 5th, 2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Goblin

All you would need is the motor itself, you could use your 98 computer, wiring harness and fuel system, along with your T45.. it would basically just be plug and play.

And coolant mods.....and exhaust.....

I say do a headswap w/ some cams and have at er'!

Goblin · February 5th, 2008, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jim@CMS

And coolant mods.....and exhaust.....

I say do a headswap w/ some cams and have at er'!

Theres obviously more to it, but i didnt want to get into a long, drawn out explination. I really think the cobra motor would benefit him the best in the long run if ever decides to experiment with FI.

A head/cams swap would be beneficial too.. im not sure i would say its as cost effective as the cobra motor though... atleast not in the long run.

NMR-2vGT · February 5th, 2008, 02:52 PM

^Thats what it really depends on. How much power is he looking for and how much money is he willing to spend.

96GtGoodz · February 5th, 2008, 03:13 PM

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Mustang RacR94 · February 5th, 2008, 04:22 PM

cobra motor would be the way to go, just dont buy cobra badges or and put them on

mexlatino · February 5th, 2008, 06:34 PM

i was looking to spent about 3 to 4 thousand, i was looking at some cobra engines online, and they want like 2-5 thousand, i was hoping to spend 4 thousand max. I would still need to find someone to install it for me. which i dont have any idea how much it would be.

mexlatino · February 5th, 2008, 06:36 PM

i would be content getting my car to 300hp+. I just love the cobra motors, obviously for the performance

mexlatino · February 5th, 2008, 06:36 PM

does anyone know where i can find a cobra engine at a decent price?

ZoomZoomMFer · February 5th, 2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mustang RacR94

cobra motor would be the way to go, just dont buy cobra badges or and put them on

y not? with the the cobra motor it is pretty much a cobra

G.T. Rags · February 5th, 2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by 98SilverStang

y not? with the the cobra motor it is pretty much a cobra

nope........

unless u buy a cobra totalled out, and take everything that makes it a cobra, including vin number and etx, then u have a cobra.

otherwise u got a fobra

Muscletang · February 5th, 2008, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by 98SilverStang

y not? with the the cobra motor it is pretty much a cobra

There is a big difference between liking the cobra stuff and then lieing to people and yourself that you have a cobra by putting the badges on. There is a lot more to a cobra than the engine.

Muscletang · February 5th, 2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by mexlatino

i would be content getting my car to 300hp+. I just love the cobra motors, obviously for the performance

You can get to 300hp either way for about the same $. It sounds like you want a cobra motor so maybe you should get that. I love my PI setup and I don't even have aftermarket cams or a portjob. I am sure I don't have but around 260-270rwhp though.

nes · February 5th, 2008, 10:39 PM

tough decision, cobra motor has more potential, so when you get power hungry you can get more power easier. it depends on how much work you wanna do...

mexlatino · February 6th, 2008, 08:41 AM

i dont know who said it, but yeah putting on badges on my gt would be retarded. I think some people here have that misconception that i want to make my gt into a cobra. Kinda dumb whoever said that

MikeD05GT · February 6th, 2008, 10:07 AM

i said it!!! no i didnt actually a gt with cobra engine is a fobra ladies...a cobra is not just the engine..it is the whole car...as people always say on this forum...they are two diffrent animals...

February 5th, 2008, 08:56 AM	#1
mexlatino Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 reviews	cobra engine or pi swap? I dont know which to do. I am looking at buying a used cobra engine or doing the pi swap. I want to get to 300hp, and i know its gonna cost me both ways, ill like to know which is best and more cost efficent. I have a 98 stang gt with about 80k on the engine. should i just wait a little more to add more miles to the engine and then do the engine swap or should i invest money on doing the pi swap and get it to 300hp. any suggestions? opinions?

February 5th, 2008, 11:13 AM	#2
KingChronic Gun Whore 04 Whipple Cobra 10.61@129.96 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,438 iTrader: 0 reviews	with ported PI heads, better cams, and pull bolt on's you can get 300RWHP __________________ Modded Mustangs Make-A-Wish for Bubba "BWAL09" [url]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/112652-hey-guys-mm-needs-unite-bubba.html[/url] [QUOTE=Drgnracin72;1870015]please do this country a favor and go play tag football with an oncoming car[/QUOTE]

February 5th, 2008, 11:46 AM	#3
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	The only way i would do a cobra swap is by actually buying a cobra. IMO it wouldnt be worth the time and money to do a cobra swap. I say build your motor with PI stuff and go from there. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

February 5th, 2008, 12:29 PM	#4
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cobra swap would be the way to go. Its easy to find a 96-98 cobra motor for under $3000... I found a 98 cobra motor complete for $1500. All you would need is the motor itself, you could use your 98 computer, wiring harness and fuel system, along with your T45.. it would basically just be plug and play. The cobra motor is also a better foundation for further improvements. __________________

February 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM	#5
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	Also check out Mach 1 motors, same as the Cobra. My local mod shop can get them for 3k with decent miles. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

February 5th, 2008, 02:52 PM	#8
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,181 iTrader: 0 reviews	^Thats what it really depends on. How much power is he looking for and how much money is he willing to spend. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

February 5th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#9
96GtGoodz Enthusiast 96 Mustang GT 5spd Vert. Not sure need to go to a track Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.Y. Posts: 991 iTrader: 0 reviews	seanhylandmotosport.com __________________ Deep Forest Green FTW!!!! Spending all my money on it ^ *Make sure to leave rep for helpful posts*

February 5th, 2008, 04:22 PM	#10
Mustang RacR94 MM Fanatic 99 cobra N/A Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 3,170 iTrader: 0 reviews	cobra motor would be the way to go, just dont buy cobra badges or and put them on __________________ 99 Cobra 03 Cobra motor AFCO H/E Pulley JLT CAI BBK L/T off road H/steeda catback SCT MAF Tune 03 cobra pumps HVGC

February 5th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#11
mexlatino Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 reviews	i was looking to spent about 3 to 4 thousand, i was looking at some cobra engines online, and they want like 2-5 thousand, i was hoping to spend 4 thousand max. I would still need to find someone to install it for me. which i dont have any idea how much it would be.

February 5th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#12
mexlatino Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would be content getting my car to 300hp+. I just love the cobra motors, obviously for the performance

February 5th, 2008, 10:39 PM	#18
nes Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 962 iTrader: 0 reviews	tough decision, cobra motor has more potential, so when you get power hungry you can get more power easier. it depends on how much work you wanna do... __________________ silver 98gt, blown- sold laser red 98gt, stock- gave away stormy blue 09 mazda3-traded 09 subaru wrx- soon to be 12 sec. daily driver 1988 gt- toy

February 6th, 2008, 08:41 AM	#19
mexlatino Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont know who said it, but yeah putting on badges on my gt would be retarded. I think some people here have that misconception that i want to make my gt into a cobra. Kinda dumb whoever said that

February 6th, 2008, 10:07 AM	#20
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	i said it!!! no i didnt actually a gt with cobra engine is a fobra ladies...a cobra is not just the engine..it is the whole car...as people always say on this forum...they are two diffrent animals...

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