Lincoln mk VIII engine swap!!!

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 12th, 2008, 10:14 PM

Okay guys, need some good input please!!!

I was going to do a PI swap, and my bottom end has high mileage but is allright. That being said....I Came across a low mileage Lincoln MK VIII engine locally at a great price, under a grand. I've read this is basically an easy swap and can be plugged right in, which I'm sceptical of.

Anyone know what it takes? I realize the Cobra intake is better than the Lincoln, but I can change that later.

Is this feasible?? I'd end up with basically a low mileage Cobra engine this way for not much money.

Thanks!

68 dlxcoupe · February 12th, 2008, 10:51 PM

Its the same thing as a cobra swap dude. Change out the PCM wiring harness and all that good stuff. And also to have a cobra engine you have to change the cams and the intake in the Mark motor. Just my .02

MustangMatt96GT · February 12th, 2008, 10:53 PM

Its very feasable. Same rods, same pistons, same heads as the cobra. THe cranks are different, and the Mark VIII crank wont hold much power at all. Just some food for thought.

If its complete and running, I would say 800 would be what I would pay. It has a Teskid block with is a great alumunum block.

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 12th, 2008, 11:01 PM

Thanks guys. I've read about this and aside from all of the debate surrounding which 4V is the best choice I really just want to know exactly what it takes to get it in the car and running. The motor has 30k on it and unless I'm missing something this won't cost any more than just the PI swap I'm about to start. I can buy the engine, complete with all accesories from intake to oil pan. That's a lot of near new parts compared to a pair of heads mounted to my 160k mi block and parts.

truedeath · February 12th, 2008, 11:12 PM

i still say do the pi heads stage 2(or 3) and buy a short block. more power. fully built. no worries on breaking and your not starting from square one. almost guarenteed 325 horse to the wheels with bolt full bolt ons. then from there you have a choice of turbo,blown or nitrous. pick your cam to suit and giver.

im going with na cams for the moment. just picked up a set of termi pistons from my engine builder. he polished em up and shit so there looking good. if i go supercharged were thinking of forging the npi lower end with no stroking or boring. adding the cobra pistons to lower the high compression from the na cams and running about 10psi should be a very lethal combo.

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 12th, 2008, 11:15 PM

I'm sure there are many better choices for overall power building, but I could do this for the cost of a basic PI swap, which is all I've got the budget for. From that standpoint what do you think?

WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORK?

MikeD05GT · February 13th, 2008, 06:17 PM

nothing you just drop it in and start er up

MikeD05GT · February 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM

that was a joke

MustangMatt96GT · February 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM

basically, you will need the other wiring harness and ECU as well.

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 13th, 2008, 10:31 PM

Funny stuff....

I figured the ECU and wiring would be essential too Matt. But I read a post on Mustangforums from a guy who's done it and he said he didn't need to do that, just plug and play. But I can't imagine that the mustang harness would be an exact match. Either way, the seller of the engine will through in the ECU and complete engine harness for free. So, having those parts do you guys think it would be difficult? Other than that (and I have no real idea of whether or not swapping the ECU would be hard) will it just drop in and bolt up, bellhousing, etc, etc? I'm really thinking about doing this, but I need to know what it takes. After I had it in the car could I just swap a Cobra intake? I know the internals aren't the same, but from a stock power output standpoint it should make similay HP with that intake, right?

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 13th, 2008, 10:32 PM

similar, not similay

RandoGT · February 14th, 2008, 12:44 AM

someone has a write up around here, i think Doc has it. he's bound to chime in

MikeD05GT · February 14th, 2008, 11:18 AM

search around...i know ive seen a few write ups about it...they are long as hell...

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 14th, 2008, 11:13 PM

Thanks all! Please keep the advice coming. I think I'm gonna try it, but still need to know exactly what's needed to make it work. A couple guys mentioned needing to change flywheels, which one? Also that the stock computer will work as long as a IIMRC delete plate is used? Don't know what that means.

Lemme know!!!

MikeD05GT · February 15th, 2008, 10:37 AM

yea you have to get an 8 bolt flywheel someone correct me if im wrong..to match the new crank....

tcasoccer13 · February 15th, 2008, 11:01 AM

it takes more than you think... i just put the mach 1 motor in my 96 and i needed new fuel lines, fuel rails, new A- arms, new motor mounts, and alot of other stuff... if you are going cheap, just do the pi engine swap, but if you got some money do the 4v engine swap...

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 15th, 2008, 01:51 PM

The new engine comes with the fuel rails. No one else has said anything about A-Arms or motor mounts. Are these necessary? I thought the block was the same (externally).

Anyone else have an opinion on that?

B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch · February 15th, 2008, 01:53 PM

The MACH I is supercharged, right? Could that explain needing the other parts?

MustangMatt96GT · February 15th, 2008, 01:55 PM

Mach 1s arent supercharged...

MikeD05GT · February 15th, 2008, 01:57 PM

mach 1's are not supercharged...you might be thinking of shaker hood though...

February 12th, 2008, 10:14 PM	#1
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lincoln mk VIII engine swap!!! Okay guys, need some good input please!!! I was going to do a PI swap, and my bottom end has high mileage but is allright. That being said....I Came across a low mileage Lincoln MK VIII engine locally at a great price, under a grand. I've read this is basically an easy swap and can be plugged right in, which I'm sceptical of. Anyone know what it takes? I realize the Cobra intake is better than the Lincoln, but I can change that later. Is this feasible?? I'd end up with basically a low mileage Cobra engine this way for not much money. Thanks!

February 12th, 2008, 10:51 PM	#2
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 916 iTrader: 2 reviews	Its the same thing as a cobra swap dude. Change out the PCM wiring harness and all that good stuff. And also to have a cobra engine you have to change the cams and the intake in the Mark motor. Just my .02 __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

February 12th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#3
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Its very feasable. Same rods, same pistons, same heads as the cobra. THe cranks are different, and the Mark VIII crank wont hold much power at all. Just some food for thought. If its complete and running, I would say 800 would be what I would pay. It has a Teskid block with is a great alumunum block. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

February 12th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#5
truedeath Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ottawa ontario canada. Posts: 187 iTrader: 0 reviews	i still say do the pi heads stage 2(or 3) and buy a short block. more power. fully built. no worries on breaking and your not starting from square one. almost guarenteed 325 horse to the wheels with bolt full bolt ons. then from there you have a choice of turbo,blown or nitrous. pick your cam to suit and giver. im going with na cams for the moment. just picked up a set of termi pistons from my engine builder. he polished em up and shit so there looking good. if i go supercharged were thinking of forging the npi lower end with no stroking or boring. adding the cobra pistons to lower the high compression from the na cams and running about 10psi should be a very lethal combo. __________________ 98 GT summer toy. 05 FORD explorer Daily Driver. See Garage For Mods. the wheels of his mustang exploding on the highway like a slug from a 45. TRUE DEATH. 400hp of maximum performance piercing the night. this is black sunshine. Last edited by truedeath; February 12th, 2008 at 11:14 PM.

February 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM	#9
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	basically, you will need the other wiring harness and ECU as well. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

February 12th, 2008, 11:01 PM	#4
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks guys. I've read about this and aside from all of the debate surrounding which 4V is the best choice I really just want to know exactly what it takes to get it in the car and running. The motor has 30k on it and unless I'm missing something this won't cost any more than just the PI swap I'm about to start. I can buy the engine, complete with all accesories from intake to oil pan. That's a lot of near new parts compared to a pair of heads mounted to my 160k mi block and parts.

February 12th, 2008, 11:15 PM	#6
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm sure there are many better choices for overall power building, but I could do this for the cost of a basic PI swap, which is all I've got the budget for. From that standpoint what do you think? WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORK?

February 13th, 2008, 06:17 PM	#7
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	nothing you just drop it in and start er up

February 13th, 2008, 10:31 PM	#10
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Funny stuff.... I figured the ECU and wiring would be essential too Matt. But I read a post on Mustangforums from a guy who's done it and he said he didn't need to do that, just plug and play. But I can't imagine that the mustang harness would be an exact match. Either way, the seller of the engine will through in the ECU and complete engine harness for free. So, having those parts do you guys think it would be difficult? Other than that (and I have no real idea of whether or not swapping the ECU would be hard) will it just drop in and bolt up, bellhousing, etc, etc? I'm really thinking about doing this, but I need to know what it takes. After I had it in the car could I just swap a Cobra intake? I know the internals aren't the same, but from a stock power output standpoint it should make similay HP with that intake, right?

February 13th, 2008, 10:32 PM	#11
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	similar, not similay

February 14th, 2008, 12:44 AM	#12
RandoGT Enthusiast 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track Join Date: May 2007 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 856 iTrader: 0 reviews	someone has a write up around here, i think Doc has it. he's bound to chime in

February 14th, 2008, 11:18 AM	#13
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	search around...i know ive seen a few write ups about it...they are long as hell...

February 14th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#14
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks all! Please keep the advice coming. I think I'm gonna try it, but still need to know exactly what's needed to make it work. A couple guys mentioned needing to change flywheels, which one? Also that the stock computer will work as long as a IIMRC delete plate is used? Don't know what that means. Lemme know!!!

February 15th, 2008, 10:37 AM	#15
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea you have to get an 8 bolt flywheel someone correct me if im wrong..to match the new crank....

February 15th, 2008, 11:01 AM	#16
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 191 iTrader: 0 reviews	it takes more than you think... i just put the mach 1 motor in my 96 and i needed new fuel lines, fuel rails, new A- arms, new motor mounts, and alot of other stuff... if you are going cheap, just do the pi engine swap, but if you got some money do the 4v engine swap...

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February 15th, 2008, 01:51 PM	#17
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	The new engine comes with the fuel rails. No one else has said anything about A-Arms or motor mounts. Are these necessary? I thought the block was the same (externally). Anyone else have an opinion on that?

February 15th, 2008, 01:53 PM	#18
B/C A RealCarCostsTooMuch Regular 1998 GT Many Seconds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	The MACH I is supercharged, right? Could that explain needing the other parts?

February 15th, 2008, 01:55 PM	#19
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Mach 1s arent supercharged... __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

February 15th, 2008, 01:57 PM	#20
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	mach 1's are not supercharged...you might be thinking of shaker hood though...

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