Recomendations As To What Upgrate I Should Do First

jagstang96 · September 30th, 2006, 11:18 PM

Im finally ready to start doing upgrates to my car and would like some opinions or feedback as to were should I start first I alredy took the intake manifold an d replaced it with the upgrated one what upgrates should I start with that will help me the most and will notice the most difference????

ckthecerealkiller · October 1st, 2006, 06:42 AM

Gears HANDS DOWN.

ChrisJ · October 1st, 2006, 06:48 AM

Gears would be great...

A nice mid-pipe would be great as well...

Or you could change you NON-PI 4.6 to a PI GT with a set of heads off a 99-04 GT...

Long Tube Headers would be nice...

And the list goes on and on...

jagstang96 · October 1st, 2006, 09:12 AM

Alright gears takes the win hands down know for the second issue what is a good brand of gears to use and should I get 4.10 or 3.73 I now that some gears make a little noise but I really dont care.

ChrisJ · October 1st, 2006, 09:21 AM

They should not make any noise if put in properly...

Need some details on your car...

Auto or Manual?

What are your future plans for the car? Forced Induction, Nitrous, Or Naturally Aspirated?

jagstang96 · October 1st, 2006, 10:33 PM

well its a 96 gt manual in good shape no leaks at all. it does have almost 140 thousand miles but it run very strong I would like to get pulleys, x pipe , I have flowmasters 40 series alredy, i need a good cold air intake, and installed alredy is a spec stage one clutch cause my other one burned out so I went ahead and put a better one on I would also like to figure out how to keep my car colder. Anyh ideas

ChrisJ · October 2nd, 2006, 02:15 AM

Whats your plans for your car?

Naturally Aspirated - 4.10's

Poweradder - 3.73's

jagstang96 · October 2nd, 2006, 09:26 PM

my plans eventully are nos

ChrisJ · October 3rd, 2006, 02:26 AM

If you are going with Nitrous you can go with either one that you want...

Fryrice · October 8th, 2006, 10:56 PM

First of all,forget about a CAI. They look pretty,but are a waste of money unless you are moving some serious air flow. They are primarily for cooling the inlet charge . The factory intake can handle just fine. You are not generating enough heat to justify needing a CAI.

I would look at your choice like this. If you want to optimize your factory power,gears are a good choice. Just rememberm that your car will idle a couple hundred RPM's higher constantly,and that will lower your fuel mileage. Not 5mpg lower,but lower nontheless.

If your intentions are to move more air (air and fuel make more power) then I would do the exhaust first.Because you can add the biggest heads and supercharger you want,but that air has to go somewhere. Its a Coke bottle effect. But your factory exhaust can handle the PI upgrade fine.But a better exhaust is a good idea,though not to big or you create back pressure. 2.5 is right for your ride. Your car has 6 g-damn cats on it.so consider a O/R pipe

WORD OF CAUTION- I know several guys who have run x-pipes on 2 chamber Flowmasters and they HATED the sound. X-pipes sound like shit on these. I have a OR-H and 2 chamber Flows,and I constantly get compliments.

sonicblue · October 9th, 2006, 12:48 AM

i have a xpipe with flows and love it and get compliments.its all in what u like i guess.the x pipe can be a little raspy.with my gears i actually get better mileage around town cause im in 5th gear more and able to use it.but like what was said above you will loose some mpg on the highway maybe just a couple. doing 90 my rpms are at around 2800 with 3.73s

ChrisJ · October 9th, 2006, 04:46 AM

I love the sound on my mustang...O/R Bassani X-Pipe and Flowmaster Cat-back...

A H-Pipe is going to be alot deeper...

Fryrice · October 9th, 2006, 06:27 PM

You drive in 5th gear often Sonic ? I rarely ever hit 5th around here.To many lights.Even on the interstate im in 4th so I have some passing power.

Im not knocking the x-pipe,just forwarding some opinions. It may depend on what mods you have.

I still stand by avoiding the CAI for now as a first mod.

sonicblue · October 9th, 2006, 07:02 PM

with 3.73s i can go to 5th at 40-45mph around town if i want.and at highway speeds its got plenty of power to pass in 5th.of course its more fun to pass in 4th on the highway.

Fryrice · October 10th, 2006, 02:05 AM

I see you live in S.C. ...I always have fun in Myrtle Beach. Thats explains why you can just cruise around in 5th.Lots of open road in S.C. Plus the 3.73's

ChrisJ · October 10th, 2006, 02:08 AM

Just a word of warning for anyone runnign the Demolet Tunable Induction CAI...

KEEP IT IN THE UP POSITION...ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE IT RAINS ALOT...IT WILL HYDROLOCK YOUR ENGINE...IT HAPPENED TO ME...

jerb43 · October 10th, 2006, 02:37 PM

If you already have 3.73's. and like the MPG's you are getting. I would go with a short throw shifter, so you can slam those gears around faster.

September 30th, 2006, 11:18 PM	#1
jagstang96 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 reviews	Recomendations As To What Upgrate I Should Do First Im finally ready to start doing upgrates to my car and would like some opinions or feedback as to were should I start first I alredy took the intake manifold an d replaced it with the upgrated one what upgrates should I start with that will help me the most and will notice the most difference????

October 1st, 2006, 06:48 AM	#3
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Gears would be great... A nice mid-pipe would be great as well... Or you could change you NON-PI 4.6 to a PI GT with a set of heads off a 99-04 GT... Long Tube Headers would be nice... And the list goes on and on... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 1st, 2006, 09:12 AM	#4
jagstang96 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 reviews	upgrates Alright gears takes the win hands down know for the second issue what is a good brand of gears to use and should I get 4.10 or 3.73 I now that some gears make a little noise but I really dont care.

October 1st, 2006, 09:21 AM	#5
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	They should not make any noise if put in properly... Need some details on your car... Auto or Manual? What are your future plans for the car? Forced Induction, Nitrous, Or Naturally Aspirated? __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 1st, 2006, 10:33 PM	#6
jagstang96 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 reviews	plans well its a 96 gt manual in good shape no leaks at all. it does have almost 140 thousand miles but it run very strong I would like to get pulleys, x pipe , I have flowmasters 40 series alredy, i need a good cold air intake, and installed alredy is a spec stage one clutch cause my other one burned out so I went ahead and put a better one on I would also like to figure out how to keep my car colder. Anyh ideas

October 1st, 2006, 06:42 AM	#2
ckthecerealkiller Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Windsor CO Posts: 940 iTrader: 0 reviews	Gears HANDS DOWN.

October 2nd, 2006, 02:15 AM	#7
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Whats your plans for your car? Naturally Aspirated - 4.10's Poweradder - 3.73's __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 2nd, 2006, 09:26 PM	#8
jagstang96 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 reviews	plans my plans eventully are nos

October 3rd, 2006, 02:26 AM	#9
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	If you are going with Nitrous you can go with either one that you want... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 8th, 2006, 10:56 PM	#10
Fryrice Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,034 iTrader: 0 reviews	First of all,forget about a CAI. They look pretty,but are a waste of money unless you are moving some serious air flow. They are primarily for cooling the inlet charge . The factory intake can handle just fine. You are not generating enough heat to justify needing a CAI. I would look at your choice like this. If you want to optimize your factory power,gears are a good choice. Just rememberm that your car will idle a couple hundred RPM's higher constantly,and that will lower your fuel mileage. Not 5mpg lower,but lower nontheless. If your intentions are to move more air (air and fuel make more power) then I would do the exhaust first.Because you can add the biggest heads and supercharger you want,but that air has to go somewhere. Its a Coke bottle effect. But your factory exhaust can handle the PI upgrade fine.But a better exhaust is a good idea,though not to big or you create back pressure. 2.5 is right for your ride. Your car has 6 g-damn cats on it.so consider a O/R pipe WORD OF CAUTION- I know several guys who have run x-pipes on 2 chamber Flowmasters and they HATED the sound. X-pipes sound like shit on these. I have a OR-H and 2 chamber Flows,and I constantly get compliments. __________________ Fryrice has left the building.

October 9th, 2006, 12:48 AM	#11
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have a xpipe with flows and love it and get compliments.its all in what u like i guess.the x pipe can be a little raspy.with my gears i actually get better mileage around town cause im in 5th gear more and able to use it.but like what was said above you will loose some mpg on the highway maybe just a couple. doing 90 my rpms are at around 2800 with 3.73s __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

October 9th, 2006, 04:46 AM	#12
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	I love the sound on my mustang...O/R Bassani X-Pipe and Flowmaster Cat-back... A H-Pipe is going to be alot deeper... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 9th, 2006, 06:27 PM	#13
Fryrice Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,034 iTrader: 0 reviews	You drive in 5th gear often Sonic ? I rarely ever hit 5th around here.To many lights.Even on the interstate im in 4th so I have some passing power. Im not knocking the x-pipe,just forwarding some opinions. It may depend on what mods you have. I still stand by avoiding the CAI for now as a first mod. __________________ Fryrice has left the building.

October 9th, 2006, 07:02 PM	#14
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	with 3.73s i can go to 5th at 40-45mph around town if i want.and at highway speeds its got plenty of power to pass in 5th.of course its more fun to pass in 4th on the highway. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

October 10th, 2006, 02:05 AM	#15
Fryrice Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,034 iTrader: 0 reviews	I see you live in S.C. ...I always have fun in Myrtle Beach. Thats explains why you can just cruise around in 5th.Lots of open road in S.C. Plus the 3.73's __________________ Fryrice has left the building.

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October 10th, 2006, 02:08 AM	#16
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Just a word of warning for anyone runnign the Demolet Tunable Induction CAI... KEEP IT IN THE UP POSITION...ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE IT RAINS ALOT...IT WILL HYDROLOCK YOUR ENGINE...IT HAPPENED TO ME... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 10th, 2006, 02:37 PM	#17
jerb43 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you already have 3.73's. and like the MPG's you are getting. I would go with a short throw shifter, so you can slam those gears around faster. __________________ 1998 Mustang GT Super Charged! CGS Sub frames, Auto Meter gauges, Bassani Exhaust!

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