[HBK_2007]

i agree

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by smitty i love it when the company or a rep. can get on a forum and set the record straight and give potential customers the confidence to buy their product. and also give other companies and products the respect they deserve while still promoting their product. GMS you have just earned a lot of respect from me. well played.

I certainly agree that it's nice for business owners to come on here and post in threads related to their products. It could be a little one-sided, otherwise.

As far as my posts go, I don't pretend to be an expert at K-member design, for instance, so I wouldn't personally say "do not buy" any certain brand, but having heard reservations from people who DO know what they're talking about, I feel it's good for people to know that there are knowledgeable people out there that have reservations and that they should look into their choice closely. So, I'll leave the tech to people who ARE experts on the subject, but to be clear, that subject of technical differences was not cleared up in the above post by Granatelli.

Certainly, there is something to be said for the longevity of Granatelli, but just because one product works OK, doesn't mean there still isn't something out there that's a better fit for the consumer. For transportation purposes, a Focus is a perfectly good vehicle, but personally, I think it's worth the extra money to go with a Mustang.

So yes, the majority of the time, you get what you pay for. Sometimes the less expensive product is perfectly good, but sometimes it makes sense to spend a little more for something else.

Again, my point is that people should look closely at the competing products and the differences between them as well as at the thoughts of people truly knowledgeable on the subject, and make an informed decision after a thorough vetting of all options. If it were a CAI, that would be one thing... but a complete front suspension including K-member... that something you want to be completely sure about.

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by Blainestang Most Mustang guys that are serious about suspension stuff wouldn't touch Granatelli stuff with a 10-foot pole. Generally, it's said that they just make low-quality copies of other people's legitimately engineered parts.

Naturally people that ask more money for their parts will call GMS low quality. However that fact that we offer great pricing and do not take advantage of the consumer does not make our parts lower quality

Jegs sell over 75 kits a month just like that - monthly we ship about 220 systems - check out the guys that have our parts and see what they say - no hear-say from sour grapes

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by Granatelli Naturally people that ask more money for their parts will call GMS low quality. However that fact that we offer great pricing and do not take advantage of the consumer does not make our parts lower quality Jegs sell over 75 kits a month just like that - monthly we ship about 220 systems - check out the guys that have our parts and see what they say - no hear-say from sour grapes

This is just a regurgitation of your last post in this thread.

Read my last post, just 2 posts up... I'll give you cliff notes:

I'm not saying people shouldn't buy Granatelli, I'm saying people should make an informed decision when there are people who are suspension experts with reservations about a given product.

There's something to be said for longevity and sales, but I can think of other things that meet those two criteria that I would never even consider buying. Also, there are some things which are perfectly good for one group of people that aren't the best option for another group.

Again, I'm saying take a look at what people on both sides are saying, take a look at what people knowlegeable about suspension say, consider your goals/purpose, consider your cost limitations, and make your decision from there.

[Granatelli]

I agree with you. So here is my next question...Mario Andretti or someone with his skill set decides he or she wants to build and race a 2003 Mustang so they install the Granatelli K-Member, A-arms and Coil overs. At the same time Joe-enthusiast with no driving or racing experience (or very little) buy himself the kind of car and then purchases himself the same parts from Griggs or MM. Mario has his parts installed by a "suspension expert" and Joe-enth does his parts himself in the driveway.

Which car will handle better regardless of driver? Our quality, fit and finish on our front end parts have not been in question. In fact, all the spammers that want to throw rocks and stones keep digging up 2 or 3 year old crap about lower control arms and bad bushings that came from other American companies.

I think I spend too much time defending myself. Sorta makes me feel dirty but that seems to be the nature of the internet beast. It is not about right and wrong, it is more about PR , BS, smoke and mirrors

If there are guys out there that want to go American Iron racing and live at the track then my best advice is stick with the guys that will support you the best at the track. Granted GMS does not have a booth at those tracks and if MM or Griggs is there then they are the best choice. I bet 80% if the people reading this post are just enthusiasts that rarely if never race on a track and get all their support from their friends. That is my customer and that is the guy I am talking to when I say

Rest assured our parts are stout, durable and we will ALWAYS support you

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by Granatelli I agree with you.

OK...

Originally Posted by Granatelli So here is my next question...Mario Andretti or someone with his skill set decides he or she wants to build and race a 2003 Mustang so they install the Granatelli K-Member, A-arms and Coil overs. At the same time Joe-enthusiast with no driving or racing experience (or very little) buy himself the kind of car and then purchases himself the same parts from Griggs or MM. Mario has his parts installed by a "suspension expert" and Joe-enth does his parts himself in the driveway. Which car will handle better regardless of driver? Our quality, fit and finish on our front end parts have not been in question. In fact, all the spammers that want to throw rocks and stones keep digging up 2 or 3 year old crap about lower control arms and bad bushings that came from other American companies.

So, you lead into your question with a big long thing about the qualifications of the driver and installer... and then your question is "Which car will handle better regardless of driver?" What was the point of the first paragraph?

Then, the paragraph following the question doesn't answer the question at all. It doesn't answer which will handle better regardless of driver, it just restates your claim that your parts are quality and then complains about people who question it.

Originally Posted by Granatelli I think I spend too much time defending myself. Sorta makes me feel dirty but that seems to be the nature of the internet beast. It is not about right and wrong, it is more about PR , BS, smoke and mirrors

You're right... internet marketing is more about making the customer "feel good" and making vague reassurances rather than discuss which product is technically and functionally superior... and that's unfortunate... and that's exactly my point. The customer needs to look past vendor claims and "smoke and mirrors" and look into the functionality they want/need, and go from there.

[Granatelli]

bottom line - we want to make the customer happy and our quality is spot on

[HBK_2007]

and ur doesnt have a nose