PI swap problems?!?

dc1515 · June 14th, 2008, 03:04 AM

did anybody run into any problems when doing their pi swap, cause im just sitting here waitin for the guy to finish mine but he keeps running into problems, like at first the intake was to deep/big and it hit the water pump or something?? and now there is a oil leak!

i just want my car BACK!!

NMR-2vGT · June 14th, 2008, 03:15 AM

Yes when we did mine the intake was to big and ran into the hose connecting to the waterpump. We cut the bracket off and ran a piece of heater hose along the side of it and it fit in there just fine. Also, the intake gaskets i ordered were for a 96 and I didnt realize until after i looked at them that they werent going to fit on the intake. Made me feel stupid

dc1515 · June 14th, 2008, 03:27 AM

yea man!! same shit! yea my fucking gaskets were for a v6.. soo lame but yea were u happy with the outcome? was ur car lopin after or what??

NMR-2vGT · June 14th, 2008, 03:39 AM

Im happy with the outcome so far. I just got it running on thursday. I didnt notice a difference in sound at idle but you can definetely hear a difference at WOT. It pulls much harder all the way to 6k rpms. I raced a few friends to see how much it helps and i put a bunch of cars on a stock 97 gt and i raced an ls1 camaro just to see what happened. We were about even through 2nd then he pulled away but i am fairly happy with the results. I just need some gears and drag radials now.

jlaw98gt · June 14th, 2008, 10:14 AM

lethal when did you do your swap? i never see you on the boards any more...

G.T. Rags · June 14th, 2008, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by lethal2v

Im happy with the outcome so far. I just got it running on thursday. I didnt notice a difference in sound at idle but you can definetely hear a difference at WOT. It pulls much harder all the way to 6k rpms. I raced a few friends to see how much it helps and i put a bunch of cars on a stock 97 gt and i raced an ls1 camaro just to see what happened. We were about even through 2nd then he pulled away but i am fairly happy with the results. I just need some gears and drag radials now.

Originally Posted by jlaw98gt

lethal when did you do your swap? i never see you on the boards any more...

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NMR-2vGT · June 15th, 2008, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by jlaw98gt

lethal when did you do your swap? i never see you on the boards any more...

I did it just this last week. Got it done on Thursday night. It went well with the exception of a few problems. One being O'Reileys ordering the wrong gaskets for me. Ill be on more again now that its done and have a video sometime tomorrow.

Damaso · June 15th, 2008, 10:31 AM

you need to get the PI coolant tube. thats the tube that runs in the valey under the intake manifold. the new one bends around to allow it to fit. the part number is XR3Z-18B402-AA and you can get it at ford dealerships. Also ask for a coolant nipple, and alternator bracket. when he get the manifold on he has to tap a hole for the other manifold sensor.

MustangMatt96GT · June 15th, 2008, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Damaso

you need to get the PI coolant tube. thats the tube that runs in the valey under the intake manifold. the new one bends around to allow it to fit. the part number is XR3Z-18B402-AA and you can get it at ford dealerships. Also ask for a coolant nipple, and alternator bracket. when he get the manifold on he has to tap a hole for the other manifold sensor.

you dont need the altinator bracket, but that tube and nipple is something i would never not use on a PI intake. The heater hose idea just seems too jerry rigged for me.

NMR-2vGT · June 15th, 2008, 02:30 PM

Ya, u dont need the alternator bracket and you can just take the crossover off your old manifold for the other coolent sensor on the manifold.

Damaso · June 15th, 2008, 04:18 PM

Yeah I tried the heater hose idea, and it led to a big leak. The metal tube is metal for a reason. If you use hose it will burst under pressure.

NMR-2vGT · June 15th, 2008, 04:43 PM

Well its been fine so far. If it bursts then it bursts and i'll do something else with it. But i really dont think it will......

MustangMatt96GT · June 15th, 2008, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by lethal2v

Well its been fine so far. If it bursts then it bursts and i'll do something else with it. But i really dont think it will......

its hit or miss... some do, some dont... now i just never would half ass something like that, but thats me, who knows the car will be driven hard.

NMR-2vGT · June 15th, 2008, 04:50 PM

You may be right, not gonna argue with you about it because i know that it could burst.......

Uncle Humjaba · June 15th, 2008, 08:33 PM

If your guy's having all sorts of problems you should find a different mechanic... My 17 year old self did it largely alone in a garage with house-building tools. I didn't have any problems.

G.T. Rags · June 15th, 2008, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Uncle Humjaba

If your guy's having all sorts of problems you should find a different mechanic... My 17 year old self did it largely alone in a garage with house-building tools. I didn't have any problems.

MustangMatt96GT · June 15th, 2008, 08:55 PM

I got to agree uncle... But sounds like they didn't have all the parts.

NMR-2vGT · June 19th, 2008, 02:56 AM

Is this done? or did i miss a thread about it?

wolverine8490 · June 20th, 2008, 04:36 PM

I had no issues. Well, besides the valve springs were a beeeeyach to get out with the motor in the car, but that was my own doing. As far as just the intake swap, did the research, bought the parts, and had 0 issues.

June 14th, 2008, 03:04 AM	#1
dc1515 Regular 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 366	PI swap problems?!? did anybody run into any problems when doing their pi swap, cause im just sitting here waitin for the guy to finish mine but he keeps running into problems, like at first the intake was to deep/big and it hit the water pump or something?? and now there is a oil leak! i just want my car BACK!! __________________ Flowmaster MAC Prochamber PI swap JLT CAI BBK 70mm T/B Coming Soon --- Ford Racing 4.10s, SCT XCAL3

June 14th, 2008, 03:15 AM	#2
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	Yes when we did mine the intake was to big and ran into the hose connecting to the waterpump. We cut the bracket off and ran a piece of heater hose along the side of it and it fit in there just fine. Also, the intake gaskets i ordered were for a 96 and I didnt realize until after i looked at them that they werent going to fit on the intake. Made me feel stupid __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 14th, 2008, 03:27 AM	#3
dc1515 Regular 1998 Mustang GT Need to hit the track! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 366	yea man!! same shit! yea my fucking gaskets were for a v6.. soo lame but yea were u happy with the outcome? was ur car lopin after or what?? __________________ Flowmaster MAC Prochamber PI swap JLT CAI BBK 70mm T/B Coming Soon --- Ford Racing 4.10s, SCT XCAL3

June 14th, 2008, 03:39 AM	#4
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	Im happy with the outcome so far. I just got it running on thursday. I didnt notice a difference in sound at idle but you can definetely hear a difference at WOT. It pulls much harder all the way to 6k rpms. I raced a few friends to see how much it helps and i put a bunch of cars on a stock 97 gt and i raced an ls1 camaro just to see what happened. We were about even through 2nd then he pulled away but i am fairly happy with the results. I just need some gears and drag radials now. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 15th, 2008, 10:31 AM	#8
Damaso Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 161	you need to get the PI coolant tube. thats the tube that runs in the valey under the intake manifold. the new one bends around to allow it to fit. the part number is XR3Z-18B402-AA and you can get it at ford dealerships. Also ask for a coolant nipple, and alternator bracket. when he get the manifold on he has to tap a hole for the other manifold sensor. __________________ 1998 GT 5spd- Full pi swap, Fenderwell CAI,UPR Catted X-Pipe, Mac FlowPath Cat-Back 1988 LX auto- Pypes violator cat-back, UPR X-Pipe, Shift Kit, 4.10 Gears, Pulleys, Suspension upgraded, CAI 1999 GT 5spd- CAI, Pypes violator cat-back

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June 14th, 2008, 10:14 AM	#5
jlaw98gt MM's Surfer dude Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 2,733	lethal when did you do your swap? i never see you on the boards any more...

June 15th, 2008, 02:30 PM	#10
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	Ya, u dont need the alternator bracket and you can just take the crossover off your old manifold for the other coolent sensor on the manifold. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 15th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#11
Damaso Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 161	Yeah I tried the heater hose idea, and it led to a big leak. The metal tube is metal for a reason. If you use hose it will burst under pressure. __________________ 1998 GT 5spd- Full pi swap, Fenderwell CAI,UPR Catted X-Pipe, Mac FlowPath Cat-Back 1988 LX auto- Pypes violator cat-back, UPR X-Pipe, Shift Kit, 4.10 Gears, Pulleys, Suspension upgraded, CAI 1999 GT 5spd- CAI, Pypes violator cat-back

June 15th, 2008, 04:43 PM	#12
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	Well its been fine so far. If it bursts then it bursts and i'll do something else with it. But i really dont think it will...... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 15th, 2008, 04:50 PM	#14
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	You may be right, not gonna argue with you about it because i know that it could burst....... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 15th, 2008, 08:33 PM	#15
Uncle Humjaba Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Premium 15.2@91 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tracy, CA and Clemson, SC Posts: 585	If your guy's having all sorts of problems you should find a different mechanic... My 17 year old self did it largely alone in a garage with house-building tools. I didn't have any problems. __________________ "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

June 15th, 2008, 08:55 PM	#17
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	I got to agree uncle... But sounds like they didn't have all the parts. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

June 19th, 2008, 02:56 AM	#18
NMR-2vGT Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 GT Too Slow.... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California/Nebraska Posts: 2,180	Is this done? or did i miss a thread about it? __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, Full PI Swap, MGW Shifter, Magnaflow Cat-back, K&N Filter MM Unite For Bubba

June 20th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#19
wolverine8490 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 34	I had no issues. Well, besides the valve springs were a beeeeyach to get out with the motor in the car, but that was my own doing. As far as just the intake swap, did the research, bought the parts, and had 0 issues.

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