long tubes ???

Military98stang · August 1st, 2008, 09:26 PM

Hey guys I have 2 questions.
1. I am putting 2004 pi heads on my 98 mustang. When I get long tube headers do i get the 96-98 or 99-04?
2. What is the real dif between a h pipe and a x pipe? (besides the obvious) I am curious about the performance.
Please let me know if you guys know either of these. Thanks in advance guys.

Roushed2 · August 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM

you would get the 99-04 headers and have to get your exhaust to match

HMUSN · August 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM

1. 99-04
2.no not really. sound basically

burlingtonNC98GT · August 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM

h pipe is deeper. x pipe is raspier. x pipe supposedly gives u like 2 extra hp than the h and the h gives u a little more low end torque. so performance wise theyre pretty much the same and u should just get whatever u think sounds the best (prochamber imo)

97gt · August 1st, 2008, 10:29 PM

1. 99-04 LT
2. +1 on burlington. xpipe does give a lil more hp but not much. xpipe is more of nascar than deep like the h pipe.

AndrewA. · August 1st, 2008, 10:43 PM

When i selling my (99-04)MAC headers i was going to sell them to some one who had an 97gt nonpi. I called MAC they siad from 96-04 is the same part number?? The headers would fit

AndrewA. · August 1st, 2008, 10:44 PM

Oh ya i ended up just returning them to mac so i dont know if that is ture.thats just what they told me

HBK_2007 · August 1st, 2008, 10:47 PM

i say prochamber too
from what ive read, the exhaust side of both PI and nPI are the same

MustangMatt96GT · August 2nd, 2008, 02:53 AM

PI headers will fit NPI heads.

96-04 Headers are typically the same part number. I know my hooker headers came off of a 2002 GT fit no problems.

97S281 · August 3rd, 2008, 09:17 PM

I know the ford racing shorties have different part numbers but most long tubes go either way. The head ports match up either way, I think the difference would be the fitment to the rest of the exhaust and the engine bay.

SWEET2KSTANG · August 5th, 2008, 02:39 AM

there is no difference in long tube headers for npi or pi motor. the headers will fit the same way on either head and mount to the same mid pipe.

98stanger · August 8th, 2008, 03:56 AM

yea i have a 2003 motor in my car and i have the 96-98 long tubes on. i have a catted xpipe on and bassani racing mufflers and my car doesnt even sound like a mustang anymore lol. sounds like a truck with a borla times like 20.

SSG96GT · August 8th, 2008, 06:45 AM

I had x pipe on my 96gt with a full pi swap. when I got my LT headers I put a shorty H-pipe on it and I dont like it at all. When I get back stateside I am getting a shorty x-pipe instead. I liked the way the x pipe sounds better then the H.

Military98stang · August 8th, 2008, 07:07 AM

thanks guys i just bought some bbk ceramic long tubes and it came with a h pipe. once i put it on i will decide weather to go with the x pipe or not.

HBK_2007 · August 8th, 2008, 02:41 PM

good luck with the install and dont bush ur knuckles

Military98stang · August 8th, 2008, 06:50 PM

well i am getting the pi swap done and when they have the heads off i am going to install the headers since it will be easier.

HBK_2007 · August 9th, 2008, 05:35 PM

good idea

August 1st, 2008, 09:26 PM	#1
Military98stang Enthusiast 1998 GT VERT 5 SPEED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: middle east at the moment Posts: 592	long tubes ??? Hey guys I have 2 questions. 1. I am putting 2004 pi heads on my 98 mustang. When I get long tube headers do i get the 96-98 or 99-04? 2. What is the real dif between a h pipe and a x pipe? (besides the obvious) I am curious about the performance. Please let me know if you guys know either of these. Thanks in advance guys. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3068325 EAT ...... SLEEP .......LIFT........repeat!

August 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM	#2
Roushed2 Newbie 2003 Mustang Roush Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cartersville Posts: 48	you would get the 99-04 headers and have to get your exhaust to match __________________ Wicked Stangs Georgia Chapter President

August 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM	#4
burlingtonNC98GT Regular 1998 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Burlington, NC Posts: 183	h pipe is deeper. x pipe is raspier. x pipe supposedly gives u like 2 extra hp than the h and the h gives u a little more low end torque. so performance wise theyre pretty much the same and u should just get whatever u think sounds the best (prochamber imo) __________________ 1998 GT PI cams bbk cai flowmaster 40's catback bbk x-pipe w/ cats march pulleys RAM clutch Steeda Tri-axe

August 1st, 2008, 10:29 PM	#5
97gt Regular 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 432	1. 99-04 LT 2. +1 on burlington. xpipe does give a lil more hp but not much. xpipe is more of nascar than deep like the h pipe. __________________ 2002 mustang v6- Auto, K&N CAI, Flowmaster dual exhaust, Black bullits dd 1996 mustang gt- 5spd, black, cobra hood, stock November Birthday Club Founder

August 1st, 2008, 10:43 PM	#6
AndrewA. Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 8.9@78 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 1,258	When i selling my (99-04)MAC headers i was going to sell them to some one who had an 97gt nonpi. I called MAC they siad from 96-04 is the same part number?? The headers would fit __________________ Fire it up, burn it down.

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August 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM	#3
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	1. 99-04 2.no not really. sound basically

August 1st, 2008, 10:44 PM	#7
AndrewA. Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 8.9@78 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 1,258	Oh ya i ended up just returning them to mac so i dont know if that is ture.thats just what they told me __________________ Fire it up, burn it down.

August 1st, 2008, 10:47 PM	#8
HBK_2007 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,416	i say prochamber too from what ive read, the exhaust side of both PI and nPI are the same __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake, Otherwise stock

August 2nd, 2008, 02:53 AM	#9
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,530	PI headers will fit NPI heads. 96-04 Headers are typically the same part number. I know my hooker headers came off of a 2002 GT fit no problems. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

August 3rd, 2008, 09:17 PM	#10
97S281 Enthusiast 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ZEBULON N.C. Posts: 629	I know the ford racing shorties have different part numbers but most long tubes go either way. The head ports match up either way, I think the difference would be the fitment to the rest of the exhaust and the engine bay. __________________

August 5th, 2008, 02:39 AM	#11
SWEET2KSTANG I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 5,023	there is no difference in long tube headers for npi or pi motor. the headers will fit the same way on either head and mount to the same mid pipe. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze N/A-12.81@103.7 N2O-11.79@115.8 parting out 04 cobra, pm me for details

August 8th, 2008, 03:56 AM	#12
98stanger Regular 1998 mustang gt convert Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: virginia beach virginia Posts: 129	yea i have a 2003 motor in my car and i have the 96-98 long tubes on. i have a catted xpipe on and bassani racing mufflers and my car doesnt even sound like a mustang anymore lol. sounds like a truck with a borla times like 20.

August 8th, 2008, 06:45 AM	#13
SSG96GT Newbie 1996 GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Currently Camp Casey, Korea Posts: 27	I had x pipe on my 96gt with a full pi swap. when I got my LT headers I put a shorty H-pipe on it and I dont like it at all. When I get back stateside I am getting a shorty x-pipe instead. I liked the way the x pipe sounds better then the H. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT -Full PI Swap -Comp Cams -Steeda Tri-Axe -75mm TB and upper plentum -MAC CAI -MAC LT Headers -Shorty H-pipe with Flowmasters -Lowering springs -18x9 Gunmetal Saleen Wheels wrapped in 275x35x18

August 8th, 2008, 07:07 AM	#14
Military98stang Enthusiast 1998 GT VERT 5 SPEED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: middle east at the moment Posts: 592	thanks guys i just bought some bbk ceramic long tubes and it came with a h pipe. once i put it on i will decide weather to go with the x pipe or not. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3068325 EAT ...... SLEEP .......LIFT........repeat!

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August 8th, 2008, 02:41 PM	#15
HBK_2007 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,416	good luck with the install and dont bush ur knuckles __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake, Otherwise stock

August 8th, 2008, 06:50 PM	#16
Military98stang Enthusiast 1998 GT VERT 5 SPEED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: middle east at the moment Posts: 592	well i am getting the pi swap done and when they have the heads off i am going to install the headers since it will be easier. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3068325 EAT ...... SLEEP .......LIFT........repeat!

August 9th, 2008, 05:35 PM	#17
HBK_2007 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,416	good idea __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake, Otherwise stock