5.4 2-valve

stanglifemike · August 2nd, 2008, 11:47 AM

Anyone running a 5.4 2v motor?? I can get one(not running) for free I'm hoping. Should I even bother?? I dont think the 2v's are all that great unless heavily modded, right??

yojoe600 · August 2nd, 2008, 11:49 AM

some say its not worth it but u will gain a lot more torque but not really any hp... but with some cams and a better intake it will def get more hp

330CubeGt · August 2nd, 2008, 12:14 PM

I have a 02 expedition 5.4 2-Valve 290hp stock 330 tq stock.Im putting it in my car with bolt on's and a tune and everone tells me they think ill be high 12's with the gears i have compared to how light my car is compared to a truck. i mean my stock king ranch truck runs mid -low 14s.imagine it in a sn95 with some weight taken out of it.

stanglifemike · August 2nd, 2008, 12:50 PM

The one I can get is from a 99 Expedition

NinetySixVert · August 2nd, 2008, 03:09 PM

New heads? Valve job?

stanglifemike · August 2nd, 2008, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by NinetySixVert

New heads? Valve job?

??
You asking me what it needs, or what I plan to do, or are you talking to someone else??

NinetySixVert · August 2nd, 2008, 06:51 PM

Just asking if it's a possibility that you might get new heads for the engine, or have a valve job done. That engine's not bad and has potential and I was wondering what your plans were as far as modifying it.

97S281 · August 3rd, 2008, 07:54 PM

I don't know that it would be worth it as I believe the hp diference is not that great. I saw a supercharged 5.4 2 valve from a HD edition f150 for sale and it was only rated at like 330 hp.

But shit, if it's free i'd do it!!!

DeMello · August 3rd, 2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by 97S281

I don't know that it would be worth it as I believe the hp diference is not that great. I saw a supercharged 5.4 2 valve from a HD edition f150 for sale and it was only rated at like 330 hp.

But shit, if it's free i'd do it!!!

your sure it was rated 330 with the s/c?

97S281 · August 3rd, 2008, 08:09 PM

Yeah, I just tried to find it again but could'nt. I'm pretty sure thats what it was.

I do know the lightning is rated at 390 hp supercharged but I believe that is a 5.7L engine.
I just found a listing for a roush supercharger set up for the 5.4L 3-valve that states it adds 112 hp to a stock motor. So if you can google and find the stock numbers for the 5.4 2 valve that would be a close indication of what you would get from it with a supercharger added.
But the 3- valve head does a much better job swirling the air/fuel mixture than the 2-valve does.

97S281 · August 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM

I remember because I was kinda shocked that the hp rating was that low WITH a supercharger.

DeMello · August 4th, 2008, 12:07 AM

the lighting is a 5.4 4v s/c

and i found 330 as the NA hp of a 5.4 2v lol

stanglifemike · August 4th, 2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by 97S281

But shit, if it's free i'd do it!!!

It's free but I said its not running too...so to get it running and in my car its going to cost some $$

97GT4.6 · August 4th, 2008, 12:31 PM

Yea, well see what it might cost to get it in running shape. Does it need a full rebuild? I think it would be sweet to have it in your stang.

HBK_2007 · August 4th, 2008, 01:13 PM

ya if the short block and intake are still good, u can just put ur heads on the motor and run

WildWill · August 4th, 2008, 01:16 PM

running or not, a free block is a free block. if i were you, i would take it. in muscle cars, its all about the bigger cubes... and since that engine is a stock 5.4L, you wouldn't have to worry about punching anything out. Even if everything internal is replaced, a bare bones 5.4 is a great building block. it will be much easier to make big hp out of that motor than your 4.6. if you don't take it, i will!

HBK_2007 · August 4th, 2008, 01:20 PM

good point there too. if u cant/dont wanna fix it, u can sell it

stanglifemike · August 4th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by HBK_2007

ya if the short block and intake are still good, u can just put ur heads on the motor and run

+I have a pair of non p.i heads sitting in garage that I could put on it...maybe get them P&P first

DeMello · August 4th, 2008, 01:25 PM

dont put NPI heads on it

August 2nd, 2008, 11:47 AM	#1
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.4 2-valve Anyone running a 5.4 2v motor?? I can get one(not running) for free I'm hoping. Should I even bother?? I dont think the 2v's are all that great unless heavily modded, right?? __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 2nd, 2008, 12:14 PM	#3
330CubeGt MM Fanatic 1997 SVT COBRA 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,880 iTrader: 14 reviews	I have a 02 expedition 5.4 2-Valve 290hp stock 330 tq stock.Im putting it in my car with bolt on's and a tune and everone tells me they think ill be high 12's with the gears i have compared to how light my car is compared to a truck. i mean my stock king ranch truck runs mid -low 14s.imagine it in a sn95 with some weight taken out of it. __________________ -04 IRS - Magnaflow - Wheel Replica - Autometer - FTBR - FRPP - SCT - Brembo - PRO 5.0 - BOI-

August 2nd, 2008, 12:50 PM	#4
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	The one I can get is from a 99 Expedition __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

August 2nd, 2008, 06:51 PM	#7
NinetySixVert Regular 1996 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 237 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just asking if it's a possibility that you might get new heads for the engine, or have a valve job done. That engine's not bad and has potential and I was wondering what your plans were as far as modifying it. Last edited by NinetySixVert; August 2nd, 2008 at 06:53 PM.

August 3rd, 2008, 07:54 PM	#8
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I don't know that it would be worth it as I believe the hp diference is not that great. I saw a supercharged 5.4 2 valve from a HD edition f150 for sale and it was only rated at like 330 hp. But shit, if it's free i'd do it!!! __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

August 2nd, 2008, 03:09 PM	#5
NinetySixVert Regular 1996 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 237 iTrader: 0 reviews	New heads? Valve job?

August 3rd, 2008, 08:09 PM	#10
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Yeah, I just tried to find it again but could'nt. I'm pretty sure thats what it was. I do know the lightning is rated at 390 hp supercharged but I believe that is a 5.7L engine. I just found a listing for a roush supercharger set up for the 5.4L 3-valve that states it adds 112 hp to a stock motor. So if you can google and find the stock numbers for the 5.4 2 valve that would be a close indication of what you would get from it with a supercharger added. But the 3- valve head does a much better job swirling the air/fuel mixture than the 2-valve does. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

August 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM	#11
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I remember because I was kinda shocked that the hp rating was that low WITH a supercharger. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

August 4th, 2008, 12:07 AM	#12
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	the lighting is a 5.4 4v s/c and i found 330 as the NA hp of a 5.4 2v lol __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

August 4th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#14
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT 14.2@99.8 @ 4800 ft Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,347 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yea, well see what it might cost to get it in running shape. Does it need a full rebuild? I think it would be sweet to have it in your stang. __________________ Cammed 2v Built By MustangMatt More mods than times your daughter has slept around

August 4th, 2008, 01:13 PM	#15
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,832 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya if the short block and intake are still good, u can just put ur heads on the motor and run __________________ Red 1996 GT: JLT RAI, Steeda Underdrive pullies, Stewart Waterpump; nothing to brag about Black 2009 45th aniverary edition GT 5 speed: K&N CAI, BBK Twin 62mm Throttle Body, BBK Underdrive Pullies, SLP Loudmouth

August 4th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#16
WildWill Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Solomons, MD Posts: 1,112 iTrader: 0 reviews	running or not, a free block is a free block. if i were you, i would take it. in muscle cars, its all about the bigger cubes... and since that engine is a stock 5.4L, you wouldn't have to worry about punching anything out. Even if everything internal is replaced, a bare bones 5.4 is a great building block. it will be much easier to make big hp out of that motor than your 4.6. if you don't take it, i will! __________________ GT40p heads, 1.7 crane RR's, GT40 u/l, MAC LTs, MAC o/r h-pipe, Flowmaster 40s, 65mm t/b, '03 Cobra Bilstein Struts, Tokico Bullitt Shocks, MM c/c plates, Eibach Sportlines, B&M shifter, 255lph f/p, RAM p/g clutch, Fidanza alum fly, rebuilt t-5

August 4th, 2008, 01:20 PM	#17
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,832 iTrader: 0 reviews	good point there too. if u cant/dont wanna fix it, u can sell it __________________ Red 1996 GT: JLT RAI, Steeda Underdrive pullies, Stewart Waterpump; nothing to brag about Black 2009 45th aniverary edition GT 5 speed: K&N CAI, BBK Twin 62mm Throttle Body, BBK Underdrive Pullies, SLP Loudmouth

August 4th, 2008, 01:25 PM	#19
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	dont put NPI heads on it __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

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