Need Advice Please (Motor question)

nHuman · September 24th, 2008, 12:07 AM

I got a 96 GT that i had overheating problems and when i went into to tare everything apart and start working on her, i realized their is a scratch that looks like mabe a hairline crack (behind the alternator when u remove it). It's not leaking any fluids or anything but i was wondering whats my best way to go.

A: Try to find a Newer 99+ motor swap (would appreciate any details on anything extra you need to make the swap as painless as possible).

B: Find another block and maybe do a rebuild and some upgrades.

Really on the fence with this one, tell me what you guys would do.

MikeD05GT · September 24th, 2008, 10:53 AM

i would find a 99+ complete engine with low miles... best thing you can do... its a direct swap...

deedub97GT · September 24th, 2008, 11:37 AM

+1 its direct and easy you can even use your same ecu and all that good stuff

97S281 · September 24th, 2008, 05:08 PM

I've got a spare 03 block. you can HAVE it. you have to pick it up, or pay for the shipping.

ModMustang97GT · September 24th, 2008, 05:27 PM

If you don't plan on doing many mods to the motor, get the 99+. But otherwise, I would get a crate motor and go from there. It doesn't make much sense to spend the money twice if you plan to do a lot of mods and will need to rebuild the 99+ motor down the road anyway.

nHuman · September 26th, 2008, 09:51 PM

97S281: I'm in Greensboro North Carolina
Where are you at?

JStang14 · September 27th, 2008, 09:39 AM

get the 99+ motor, you can use your computer and wiring harness. If you use your wiring harness you will have to use your coil packs and wires, and your fuel rails. The coil pack bracket on the passenger side will not completely work. There are three bolt holes for it but only two in the PI engine. Its not a big deal and if you want it to hold better you can cut the bottom of the bracket off and weld it to itself so it holds stronger. If i think of anything else I ran into i'll let you know. Go to car-parts.com and you can search for an engine, i found one close to my house complete for 1500. I think you might also have to use your alternator as the plug may be different but theres a good chance that your new engine wont come with one anyway.

tcasoccer13 · September 27th, 2008, 11:47 AM

99+ or crate motor.

nHuman · September 27th, 2008, 05:26 PM

is there any good mods i should have while puttin it in (only one comes to mind to me is LT's) to save on some headaches?

I'l check that car parts thing out, thx btw

97S281 · September 27th, 2008, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by nHuman

97S281: I'm in Greensboro North Carolina
Where are you at?

Zebulon,NC

It's about 30 minutes east of Raleigh.

97S281 · September 27th, 2008, 07:25 PM

I work off hwy 70 in Durham, I could leave it there for you to pick up.

nHuman · September 27th, 2008, 07:44 PM

how heavy is the shit

pick upable or need equip

97S281 · September 27th, 2008, 07:51 PM

It can be easily handled by two people.

nHuman · September 27th, 2008, 07:54 PM

can i just swap my stuff over to that one or do you h ave to change to the PI i prolly would change anyway just curious if their any requirements i'll have to change

97S281 · September 27th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Bearings. I've got the crank still too. you can have it as well.

nHuman · September 27th, 2008, 08:15 PM

heck yeh man , you a life saver. Maybe we can get something setup this week and I Just get a buddy to come with me to your work.

97S281 · September 27th, 2008, 09:21 PM

PM me your phone # and I'll call ya tommorow to set it up.

nHuman · September 29th, 2008, 01:45 PM

the car-parts page has some great stuff

September 24th, 2008, 12:07 AM	#1
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	Need Advice Please (Motor question) I got a 96 GT that i had overheating problems and when i went into to tare everything apart and start working on her, i realized their is a scratch that looks like mabe a hairline crack (behind the alternator when u remove it). It's not leaking any fluids or anything but i was wondering whats my best way to go. A: Try to find a Newer 99+ motor swap (would appreciate any details on anything extra you need to make the swap as painless as possible). B: Find another block and maybe do a rebuild and some upgrades. Really on the fence with this one, tell me what you guys would do.

September 24th, 2008, 11:37 AM	#3
deedub97GT MM's DRUNKEN SAILOR single turbo in the works as fast as i can push it! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Great lakes IL Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 its direct and easy you can even use your same ecu and all that good stuff __________________ MILITARY CREW GSM3 i love throbbing meat

September 24th, 2008, 05:08 PM	#4
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I've got a spare 03 block. you can HAVE it. you have to pick it up, or pay for the shipping. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

September 24th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#5
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you don't plan on doing many mods to the motor, get the 99+. But otherwise, I would get a crate motor and go from there. It doesn't make much sense to spend the money twice if you plan to do a lot of mods and will need to rebuild the 99+ motor down the road anyway. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark 04' PI Motor Author of The Official Suspension Guide

September 27th, 2008, 07:25 PM	#11
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	I work off hwy 70 in Durham, I could leave it there for you to pick up. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

September 24th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#2
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would find a 99+ complete engine with low miles... best thing you can do... its a direct swap...

September 26th, 2008, 09:51 PM	#6
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	97S281: I'm in Greensboro North Carolina Where are you at?

September 27th, 2008, 09:39 AM	#7
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 589 iTrader: 0 reviews	get the 99+ motor, you can use your computer and wiring harness. If you use your wiring harness you will have to use your coil packs and wires, and your fuel rails. The coil pack bracket on the passenger side will not completely work. There are three bolt holes for it but only two in the PI engine. Its not a big deal and if you want it to hold better you can cut the bottom of the bracket off and weld it to itself so it holds stronger. If i think of anything else I ran into i'll let you know. Go to car-parts.com and you can search for an engine, i found one close to my house complete for 1500. I think you might also have to use your alternator as the plug may be different but theres a good chance that your new engine wont come with one anyway.

September 27th, 2008, 11:47 AM	#8
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 191 iTrader: 0 reviews	99+ or crate motor.

September 27th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#9
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	is there any good mods i should have while puttin it in (only one comes to mind to me is LT's) to save on some headaches? I'l check that car parts thing out, thx btw

September 27th, 2008, 07:44 PM	#12
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	how heavy is the shit pick upable or need equip

September 27th, 2008, 07:51 PM	#13
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	It can be easily handled by two people. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

September 27th, 2008, 07:54 PM	#14
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	can i just swap my stuff over to that one or do you h ave to change to the PI i prolly would change anyway just curious if their any requirements i'll have to change

September 27th, 2008, 07:59 PM	#15
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Bearings. I've got the crank still too. you can have it as well. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

September 27th, 2008, 08:15 PM	#16
nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	heck yeh man , you a life saver. Maybe we can get something setup this week and I Just get a buddy to come with me to your work.

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97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	PM me your phone # and I'll call ya tommorow to set it up. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

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nHuman Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 306 iTrader: 0 reviews	the car-parts page has some great stuff

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