T-3650

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 04:25 AM

Any one know what there good to

SWEET2KSTANG · December 4th, 2008, 04:27 AM

depends on how its driven. they can hold quiet a bit before blowing.

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 04:31 AM

cool im jw because i get my car back tomorrow put a d1sc at 9psi im gona be there for the tune and dont know if i should tell them to dumb it down a bit what you think i could safely bring to the rear? they told me they put a non-intercooled vortec on some dudes 4.6 with stock internals and hes been running 450 to the wheels for like 4 years... but that sounds like a time bomb to me

SWEET2KSTANG · December 4th, 2008, 04:36 AM

ac ran 600+ for a long while. if you drive it incorrectly, then it wont last long. you can drive it hard, but you have to drive it right.

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 04:38 AM

ahh cool cool thanks man... o yea .. i heard its not a good idea to bring it past 5800rpm when boosting on stock internals... any truth behind that?

SWEET2KSTANG · December 4th, 2008, 04:44 AM

depends on tune. usually a set up will run out of power by that rpm.

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 04:56 AM

cool cool well ill have my dyno sheet tomorrow.. we will see what happens

Jazzer The Cat · December 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM

The T3650 is rated for 360 LB/FT of torque, and HP is not listed. The general consensus for the 4.6 block in stock form is 400rwhp. This is obviously a subjective number as to what Sweet said above. I think that this amount is a nice round number and fewer cars have had issues at this HP.

To get into the psychology of it a bit, I would state the following. I think that someone setting his/her limit at ???rwhp, is a mind thing anyway. I cannot tell you how many thread titles saying... "How do I get to 400HP?" or "I want to be at 550HP". No doubt that higher HP will give more extreme performance, but I believe this is mostly bragging rights. Nearly ALL threads/posts that I have read on the above subject are just wanting to be "higher HP than my buddy/neighbor/richard-head as school". After all, a very good driver with a 400HP car can beat another 500HP car of the same make by a lesser skilled driver.

In general I am a little bias anyway, I couldn't care less about high HP, just give me some bends in the road

Jazzer The Kitty

PS: I recommend swapping that T3650 for a T-56 for a MUCH better gear ratio as well as much higher torque rating. I will have my 1260 tomorrow and new alum. DS next week

B0B · December 4th, 2008, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by UnixHH

cool im jw because i get my car back tomorrow put a d1sc at 9psi im gona be there for the tune and dont know if i should tell them to dumb it down a bit what you think i could safely bring to the rear? they told me they put a non-intercooled vortec on some dudes 4.6 with stock internals and hes been running 450 to the wheels for like 4 years... but that sounds like a time bomb to me

i'm assuming your car is intercooled. i wouldn't worry about 400rwhp with a stock car. i'm putting out close to that and my car has 85k miles on it and i drive it hard at 10psi. i also wrap it up to 6k very often. i've had it going 130 in 4th gear before. i wouldn't worry and as long as you have a good tune and you maintain your car you should be fine.

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 05:31 PM

well i got my car back today 470hp and 440tq... kinda scary but fuck it if i blow it up ill get new parts

03gtfirered · December 4th, 2008, 06:32 PM

damn bro that seems like a lot for stock internals. nice numbers, good luck and nice car.

mbmconstruction00 · December 4th, 2008, 06:59 PM

470 wheel on 9 psi? damn son i dont think ive ever heard #'s like that

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 07:20 PM

yea the guys at houston performance said they had never seen a curve so smooth and strong on a 2v lol

i have blower cams too though... they help alot

MATT02GT · December 4th, 2008, 07:49 PM

Ive been beating on mine for a few years now with over 400 hp/tq. The weak link is the syncros in these trannys, but they can go out on a stock engine too. Just kinda hit or miss, and how you you drive.

B0B · December 4th, 2008, 09:11 PM

those cams did a lot.. i'm running 10psi and almost 100hp less than you. although it was on a mustang dyno with a very conservative tune.. so technically i can see those cams giving you 60-70 rwhp over stock cams with that blower. awesome man

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 09:14 PM

yea they thought i was going to make 400 ish to the wheels not 470 lol they called me at like 9am and woke me up like.... dude! you gota check this out hahaha

SWEET2KSTANG · December 4th, 2008, 10:37 PM

VE does wonders

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 10:40 PM

VE ?? fill me in

SWEET2KSTANG · December 4th, 2008, 10:53 PM

volumetric efficientcy. VE of a cylinder head will help make great power and make a motor withstand more longer as well.

UnixHH · December 4th, 2008, 11:01 PM

ahhh ok cool

December 4th, 2008, 04:25 AM	#1
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	T-3650 Any one know what there good to __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 04:27 AM	#2
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	depends on how its driven. they can hold quiet a bit before blowing. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 4th, 2008, 04:31 AM	#3
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	cool im jw because i get my car back tomorrow put a d1sc at 9psi im gona be there for the tune and dont know if i should tell them to dumb it down a bit what you think i could safely bring to the rear? they told me they put a non-intercooled vortec on some dudes 4.6 with stock internals and hes been running 450 to the wheels for like 4 years... but that sounds like a time bomb to me __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 04:36 AM	#4
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	ac ran 600+ for a long while. if you drive it incorrectly, then it wont last long. you can drive it hard, but you have to drive it right. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 4th, 2008, 04:38 AM	#5
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	ahh cool cool thanks man... o yea .. i heard its not a good idea to bring it past 5800rpm when boosting on stock internals... any truth behind that? __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 04:44 AM	#6
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	depends on tune. usually a set up will run out of power by that rpm. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 4th, 2008, 04:56 AM	#7
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	cool cool well ill have my dyno sheet tomorrow.. we will see what happens __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 05:31 PM	#10
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i got my car back today 470hp and 440tq... kinda scary but fuck it if i blow it up ill get new parts __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 06:59 PM	#12
mbmconstruction00 Regular 2004 GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 reviews	470 wheel on 9 psi? damn son i dont think ive ever heard #'s like that __________________ Vortech Mongoose Kit,Meth Inj,Mac LT's & Pro-Chamber,SLP LM2,3:73,Accufab T-Body & Plenum,Pro 5.0 Shifter,FR500 Deep Dish Rims,H&R Springs,KYB Adj,MM CC Plates,Mach 1 Grill Delete & Spoiler,HID's,Saleen Wing,Steeda X2 & Bumpsteer

December 4th, 2008, 07:20 PM	#13
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea the guys at houston performance said they had never seen a curve so smooth and strong on a 2v lol i have blower cams too though... they help alot __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 07:49 PM	#14
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ive been beating on mine for a few years now with over 400 hp/tq. The weak link is the syncros in these trannys, but they can go out on a stock engine too. Just kinda hit or miss, and how you you drive. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

December 4th, 2008, 09:11 PM	#15
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,601 iTrader: 2 reviews	those cams did a lot.. i'm running 10psi and almost 100hp less than you. although it was on a mustang dyno with a very conservative tune.. so technically i can see those cams giving you 60-70 rwhp over stock cams with that blower. awesome man __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

December 4th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#16
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea they thought i was going to make 400 ish to the wheels not 470 lol they called me at like 9am and woke me up like.... dude! you gota check this out hahaha __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 10:37 PM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	VE does wonders __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 4th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#18
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	VE ?? fill me in __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

December 4th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	volumetric efficientcy. VE of a cylinder head will help make great power and make a motor withstand more longer as well. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 4th, 2008, 11:01 PM	#20
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	ahhh ok cool __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

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