TR3650 rebuild

mystang0673 · December 6th, 2008, 10:43 PM

well guys... i tore into my first transmission today "tr-3650" and i was really surprised at how easy and straight forward it was... im waiting on a shift fork to come in.. it will be in monday so ill go back together with it... but i completely disassembled it "minus synchros and all" and it was only about 15 parts that came out of it... i mean... i wouldnt suggest a freshly started wrench turner to try to tear into one but its not really all that complicated.. as long as you are organized with the parts and stack them when they come out and have a halfway memory then you shouldnt have a problem completing it... just wanted to post up a learning experience of my own...

RyanGT · December 6th, 2008, 10:48 PM

you rebuilding it to be stronger? where you get the kit?

Lefty · December 6th, 2008, 10:49 PM

Yeah I just finished up my Manual Transmissions class, manuals are fairly simple. I just also finished up my Automatic Tranny class too. Automatics are the ones that kick your ass. They give me headaches

RyanGT · December 6th, 2008, 10:57 PM

Well shit, i need to rebuild my tranny stronger before it breaks... There kits out there for it? Or at least doing a half ass job that would last on the street? Like upgraded input shaft? and syncros?

Would need a new clutch with a new input shaft im guessing?

Lefty · December 6th, 2008, 11:01 PM

^ i'm not going to rebuild mine. I'm just going to grab a t-56

Jazzer The Cat · December 6th, 2008, 11:02 PM

There was a Ford TSB on the T3650 trans back in '01 or something. Appearantly there were some recalls on them due to shift-forks and such. New parts should be an upgrade from originals.

Jazzer

RyanGT · December 6th, 2008, 11:02 PM

Well im on a budget lol. A t-56 is like 2k. (minus sweet2k in classifieds). Got other stuff that needs attention first. Like my leaking blower and car not running right :p

Lefty · December 6th, 2008, 11:13 PM

^ well that's no good. and yes there was a tsb...
try this link...

The Chrome Pony's Photo Gallery - Maintenance and Repairs/Tremec T3650 TSB - Page 1

mystang0673 · December 10th, 2008, 10:57 AM

Ok. I got into the transmission and fixed the problem. But. Tryin to go back together with it is proving to be a hassle. Can anyone get me a detailed schematic of the back end of the center housing? Having some problems with the little keepers that go in between the shift fork shafts.

zinc02GT · December 10th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

Ok. I got into the transmission and fixed the problem. But. Tryin to go back together with it is proving to be a hassle. Can anyone get me a detailed schematic of the back end of the center housing? Having some problems with the little keepers that go in between the shift fork shafts.

Draidin · December 10th, 2008, 02:05 PM

Is a rebuild kit the way to go when your synchros and forks are ruined?
2nd gear is notchy as F*** and sometimes bounces out and 3rd is getting the same way.

mystang0673 · December 10th, 2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by zinc02GT

lol.. no offense but that diagram is SHIT! lol... thats the same one i have.. you know how hard it is to find a bb on that? i got the transmission back together.. thanks though. lol

zinc02GT · December 11th, 2008, 01:07 AM

It was the only diagram/schematic I knew of...

mystang0673 · December 11th, 2008, 05:51 PM

its cool... i feel pretty sure i could do the job again without ANY kind of problems...

coffinator6 · December 11th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

its cool... i feel pretty sure i could do the job again without ANY kind of problems...

ill have mine to you in a couple days. need an address to send it to. J/k I need to replace my syncros and forks. Or like RyanGT said, time for a t56 swap.

why not make a nice detailed video on how to do it so some of us can try.

mystang0673 · December 13th, 2008, 12:31 PM

if i had another transmission out i would... there are really only a few parts you gotta keep an eye out for... when you get the 2 shafts out as long as you stack everything up like it came out you wont have a problem... there are 3 pill looking things and a bb that you really gotta watch for. those are what gave me trouble. in pulling it apart they all fell out and i had to find out where they went back. and if you have to replace a shift fork... the 2nd gear mounts backwards compared the the other 2 inside the housing... and the shafts dont stack in the way you would think... they goofy.. but it will only work one way. lol.

40thAnnivGT · April 18th, 2010, 07:38 PM

I know this is an old post, but I googled it... but where did you get your 3650 rebuild kit from? My 4th gear is shit and 2nd is starting to not like me anymore either.

mystang0673 · April 18th, 2010, 09:22 PM

I didn't get a rebuild kit.... I just took it apart and figure out what was wrong with it and bought a used shift fork.

GTermi · April 18th, 2010, 11:10 PM

U just gotta look. I got a viper spec t56 for 1800. its well worth it. its already built and everything.

December 6th, 2008, 10:43 PM	#1
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	TR3650 rebuild well guys... i tore into my first transmission today "tr-3650" and i was really surprised at how easy and straight forward it was... im waiting on a shift fork to come in.. it will be in monday so ill go back together with it... but i completely disassembled it "minus synchros and all" and it was only about 15 parts that came out of it... i mean... i wouldnt suggest a freshly started wrench turner to try to tear into one but its not really all that complicated.. as long as you are organized with the parts and stack them when they come out and have a halfway memory then you shouldnt have a problem completing it... just wanted to post up a learning experience of my own... __________________

December 6th, 2008, 10:48 PM	#2
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	you rebuilding it to be stronger? where you get the kit? __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

December 6th, 2008, 10:49 PM	#3
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	Yeah I just finished up my Manual Transmissions class, manuals are fairly simple. I just also finished up my Automatic Tranny class too. Automatics are the ones that kick your ass. They give me headaches __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

December 6th, 2008, 10:57 PM	#4
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Well shit, i need to rebuild my tranny stronger before it breaks... There kits out there for it? Or at least doing a half ass job that would last on the street? Like upgraded input shaft? and syncros? Would need a new clutch with a new input shaft im guessing? __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

December 6th, 2008, 11:01 PM	#5
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	^ i'm not going to rebuild mine. I'm just going to grab a t-56 __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

December 6th, 2008, 11:02 PM	#7
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Well im on a budget lol. A t-56 is like 2k. (minus sweet2k in classifieds). Got other stuff that needs attention first. Like my leaking blower and car not running right :p __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

December 6th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#8
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	^ well that's no good. and yes there was a tsb... try this link... The Chrome Pony's Photo Gallery - Maintenance and Repairs/Tremec T3650 TSB - Page 1 __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

December 10th, 2008, 10:57 AM	#9
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok. I got into the transmission and fixed the problem. But. Tryin to go back together with it is proving to be a hassle. Can anyone get me a detailed schematic of the back end of the center housing? Having some problems with the little keepers that go in between the shift fork shafts. __________________

December 10th, 2008, 02:05 PM	#11
Draidin Regular Mustang GT 2002 & 1993 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is a rebuild kit the way to go when your synchros and forks are ruined? 2nd gear is notchy as F*** and sometimes bounces out and 3rd is getting the same way. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT + 1993 Mustang GT

December 11th, 2008, 01:07 AM	#13
zinc02GT HUGE RED HEADED DUDE W/FIVE-OH 2011 Mustang GT 12.1 @ 116 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,846 iTrader: 1 reviews	It was the only diagram/schematic I knew of... __________________ Mods in garage. Built suspension and gears since posted times.

December 11th, 2008, 05:51 PM	#14
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	its cool... i feel pretty sure i could do the job again without ANY kind of problems... __________________

December 13th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#16
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	if i had another transmission out i would... there are really only a few parts you gotta keep an eye out for... when you get the 2 shafts out as long as you stack everything up like it came out you wont have a problem... there are 3 pill looking things and a bb that you really gotta watch for. those are what gave me trouble. in pulling it apart they all fell out and i had to find out where they went back. and if you have to replace a shift fork... the 2nd gear mounts backwards compared the the other 2 inside the housing... and the shafts dont stack in the way you would think... they goofy.. but it will only work one way. lol. __________________

April 18th, 2010, 07:38 PM	#17
40thAnnivGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 12.35 @ 116 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Parma, Ohio Posts: 1,126 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know this is an old post, but I googled it... but where did you get your 3650 rebuild kit from? My 4th gear is shit and 2nd is starting to not like me anymore either.

April 18th, 2010, 09:22 PM	#18
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	I didn't get a rebuild kit.... I just took it apart and figure out what was wrong with it and bought a used shift fork. __________________

April 18th, 2010, 11:10 PM	#19
GTermi Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 640 iTrader: 0 reviews	U just gotta look. I got a viper spec t56 for 1800. its well worth it. its already built and everything. __________________ My Car- 2004 Mustang GT Her Car- 2011 V6 Auto Premium Saving up for either a 2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011 5.0...Can't decide!

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