MMR edelbrock intaker adapter plate?

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 10:45 AM

This great product from MMR allows you to use a stock or aftermarket plenum such as the C&L, Trick flow, or Accufab on the Edelbrock intake manifold, this also allows you to keep ALL emissions components. Direct Bolt on, no modification required!

My question is, wouldn't the plate limit the flow of the intake considering the opening of the plate for the plenum is smaller the the orginal opening of the intake? If so, wouldn't also effect it's power band and flow numbers that edelbrock says?

SWEET2KSTANG · February 8th, 2009, 10:50 AM

yes and no. a good flowing plenum and t/b will flow well, but will not flow as much as per say the edelbrock adapter.

acmillr · February 8th, 2009, 10:59 AM

I really think the way to go is just get the Sullivan adapter and do it right. If you are needing an intake as radical as the Vic Jr, I would think that you would just want to go ahead with getting a nice upper that will flow like a bandit at the higher RPM's. However, this plate should satisfy (and disappoint) alot of people as it will give the average joe the ability to adapt the Vic Jr. to his car.

SWEET2KSTANG · February 8th, 2009, 11:03 AM

and wonder why it has no torque....

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by acmillr

I really think the way to go is just get the Sullivan adapter and do it right. If you are needing an intake as radical as the Vic Jr, I would think that you would just want to go ahead with getting a nice upper that will flow like a bandit at the higher RPM's. However, this plate should satisfy (and disappoint) alot of people as it will give the average joe the ability to adapt the Vic Jr. to his car.

Sullivan adapter? I stuck between this or the tfs intake with an oval throttle body. The hard part with the tfs is finding the oval coupler for the oval tb.

acmillr · February 8th, 2009, 11:44 AM

Ford 4.6L DOHC single plane intake manifolds

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Ford 4.6L DOHC single plane intake manifolds

That's bad ass, Thanks!

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 12:05 PM

I just thought of something? Do you think the alternator will be in the way on a 2V?

acmillr · February 8th, 2009, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

I just thought of something? Do you think the alternator will be in the way on a 2V?

Yes, it will and you need a 1.5" spacer to make it work. A 2" composite style spacer would be my choice- They cost about $20.

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Yes, it will and you need a 1.5" spacer to make it work. A 2" composite style spacer would be my choice- They cost about $20.

Then what about hood cleareanre? Also i here that intake only works with edelbrocks fuel rails and there's no provsion for the frps?

acmillr · February 8th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

Then what about hood cleareanre? Also i here that intake only works with edelbrocks fuel rails and there's no provsion for the frps?

The hood clearance is something I never got to actually measure before I lost interest in this set up. I would assume that, at the least, the under hood insulation would have to come out. MMR has some type of inline adapter for the FRPS- just call them and ask. I don't think it's listed on their site. However, I figure you would want to go return style with atleast one A1000 pump anyway.

Have you looked at the Logan?

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Have you looked at the Logan?

Yes it's just to much.

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 01:52 PM

How about mounting it sides ways? It is a square bore? It might allow for a smaller spacer? I guy on another forum said he has 2" spacer and iac is still hitting the alt and has to rum a remote iac.

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 02:10 PM

oops

acmillr · February 8th, 2009, 04:05 PM

Jive, I wish I could answer all of your questions on this, but I never got any further than what I have already explained. All in all, I believe you should be prepared to fork over around $1500 for a really good intake. That's why the Edelbrock lost it's luster to me- Once you figure the intake, rails, adapter, spacer, and the headache, it just doean't look like a killer deal anymore. I know the TF ends up being alot cheaper, but it is still based on the Bullitt intake and I don't see where anyone has achieved a world of greatness by switching to it. The PI intake remains the only true sensible intake (on most applications) to run on a 2V IMO.

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Jive, I wish I could answer all of your questions on this, but I never got any further than what I have already explained. All in all, I believe you should be prepared to fork over around $1500 for a really good intake. That's why the Edelbrock lost it's luster to me- Once you figure the intake, rails, adapter, spacer, and the headache, it just doean't look like a killer deal anymore. I know the TF ends up being alot cheaper, but it is still based on the Bullitt intake and I don't see where anyone has achieved a world of greatness by switching to it. The PI intake remains the only true sensible intake (on most applications) to run on a 2V IMO.

Well the bullitt is good for 30+ on a supercharged car. and the TFS is a little better because of the alternator being inverted allowing more room for bigger and straighter intake runners is what I was told.

I know what you mean by one part not making a world of difference but it's a combination of lot parts correctly matched that do that. I also have my S-trim boxed up to ship to Vortech to have a T-trim upgrade.

SWEET2KSTANG · February 8th, 2009, 10:25 PM

what about the hps? maybe do a drgon big oval conversion as well?

jivepepper · February 8th, 2009, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

what about the hps? maybe do a drgon big oval conversion as well?

I called and they is I might get 15-20 hp after porting it. I never really hear a lot of good and after about it.

SWEET2KSTANG · February 8th, 2009, 10:32 PM

i was thinking of doing this intake, still not sure. i was about to build, till i didnt get back what i thought i would with my taxes. i am now waiting till august, i will be 100% vested in my 401k, and i will have more. till then i will just pay off car and couple other little bills.

jivepepper · February 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Hpp racing has something that should work but I'm not sure on the price yet.

Plus another company makes them to fit and custom builds. The one they have now will except a a 75mm stock style tb or a 90mm 5.0 type. I going to contact them tomorrow and see if they can build in oval body TB style. I will also have them leave off the egr flange.

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February 8th, 2009, 10:45 AM	#1
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 4,564 iTrader: 1 reviews	MMR edelbrock intaker adapter plate? This great product from MMR allows you to use a stock or aftermarket plenum such as the C&L, Trick flow, or Accufab on the Edelbrock intake manifold, this also allows you to keep ALL emissions components. Direct Bolt on, no modification required! My question is, wouldn't the plate limit the flow of the intake considering the opening of the plate for the plenum is smaller the the orginal opening of the intake? If so, wouldn't also effect it's power band and flow numbers that edelbrock says? __________________ 2000 GT 665/540rwhp/rwtq Best 1/4: AT 431HP 12.29 @ 124 AT 515HP 11.24 @ 129 AT 638HP 11.01 @ 135 AT 665HP ??.?? @ ??? 80*+day, 1400' track, 10.5" DD Cobra R's & 315/35/17DR'S Trap speed = true measurement of HP.

February 8th, 2009, 10:50 AM	#2
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	yes and no. a good flowing plenum and t/b will flow well, but will not flow as much as per say the edelbrock adapter. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

February 8th, 2009, 10:59 AM	#3
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	I really think the way to go is just get the Sullivan adapter and do it right. If you are needing an intake as radical as the Vic Jr, I would think that you would just want to go ahead with getting a nice upper that will flow like a bandit at the higher RPM's. However, this plate should satisfy (and disappoint) alot of people as it will give the average joe the ability to adapt the Vic Jr. to his car. __________________

February 8th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#4
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	and wonder why it has no torque.... __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

February 8th, 2009, 11:44 AM	#6
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	Ford 4.6L DOHC single plane intake manifolds __________________

February 8th, 2009, 12:05 PM	#8
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 4,564 iTrader: 1 reviews	I just thought of something? Do you think the alternator will be in the way on a 2V? __________________ 2000 GT 665/540rwhp/rwtq Best 1/4: AT 431HP 12.29 @ 124 AT 515HP 11.24 @ 129 AT 638HP 11.01 @ 135 AT 665HP ??.?? @ ??? 80*+day, 1400' track, 10.5" DD Cobra R's & 315/35/17DR'S Trap speed = true measurement of HP.

February 8th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#13
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 4,564 iTrader: 1 reviews	How about mounting it sides ways? It is a square bore? It might allow for a smaller spacer? I guy on another forum said he has 2" spacer and iac is still hitting the alt and has to rum a remote iac. __________________ 2000 GT 665/540rwhp/rwtq Best 1/4: AT 431HP 12.29 @ 124 AT 515HP 11.24 @ 129 AT 638HP 11.01 @ 135 AT 665HP ??.?? @ ??? 80+day, 1400' track, 10.5" DD Cobra R's & 315/35/17DR'S Trap speed = true measurement of HP. Last edited by jivepepper; February 8th, 2009 at 02:11 PM.*

February 8th, 2009, 02:10 PM	#14
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 4,564 iTrader: 1 reviews	oops __________________ 2000 GT 665/540rwhp/rwtq Best 1/4: AT 431HP 12.29 @ 124 AT 515HP 11.24 @ 129 AT 638HP 11.01 @ 135 AT 665HP ??.?? @ ??? 80*+day, 1400' track, 10.5" DD Cobra R's & 315/35/17DR'S Trap speed = true measurement of HP.

February 8th, 2009, 04:05 PM	#15
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	Jive, I wish I could answer all of your questions on this, but I never got any further than what I have already explained. All in all, I believe you should be prepared to fork over around $1500 for a really good intake. That's why the Edelbrock lost it's luster to me- Once you figure the intake, rails, adapter, spacer, and the headache, it just doean't look like a killer deal anymore. I know the TF ends up being alot cheaper, but it is still based on the Bullitt intake and I don't see where anyone has achieved a world of greatness by switching to it. The PI intake remains the only true sensible intake (on most applications) to run on a 2V IMO. __________________

February 8th, 2009, 10:25 PM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	what about the hps? maybe do a drgon big oval conversion as well? __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

February 8th, 2009, 10:32 PM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	i was thinking of doing this intake, still not sure. i was about to build, till i didnt get back what i thought i would with my taxes. i am now waiting till august, i will be 100% vested in my 401k, and i will have more. till then i will just pay off car and couple other little bills. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

February 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#20
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 4,564 iTrader: 1 reviews	Hpp racing has something that should work but I'm not sure on the price yet. Plus another company makes them to fit and custom builds. The one they have now will except a a 75mm stock style tb or a 90mm 5.0 type. I going to contact them tomorrow and see if they can build in oval body TB style. I will also have them leave off the egr flange. 6061 6061.com IntakeElbows.com intake elbow elbows valve covers ls1 lsx mustang camaro fuel rials injector bungs efi conversion aluminum fabrication 6061 6061.com Aaron Larsen edelbrock fuel rails 4150 dominator lsx injector bungs 90mm 105mm throttle __________________ 2000 GT 665/540rwhp/rwtq Best 1/4: AT 431HP 12.29 @ 124 AT 515HP 11.24 @ 129 AT 638HP 11.01 @ 135 AT 665HP ??.?? @ ??? 80*+day, 1400' track, 10.5" DD Cobra R's & 315/35/17DR'S Trap speed = true measurement of HP.

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