Forged internals?

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 10:59 AM

So I am toying with the idea of doing forged internals for my 04 GT. I want to get a good setup but with out spending both arms, legs, and a seed maker. I want something that is not the cheapest but also not the most expensive too. I'd like to rebuild my stock block with forged pistons, rods, crank and what ever else I would need. I know, I know I will have to do the top end as well, but I have a good idea about what I want to do for that. It's just the block this has me thinking. An good ideas?

SWEET2KSTANG · February 8th, 2009, 11:06 AM

how much power, whats intended use of car, etc. we need more info

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:13 PM

Daily driver/drag and track racer. Thinking around 450-to 520ish at the wheels, but I would want it to be able to handle 700-750hp. Just in case I want to add a turbo,blower,or spray to it later.

casper gt · February 8th, 2009, 03:16 PM

thats big power bro, be prepaired to spend big $$ to do it.

Scott2001GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:19 PM

I am doing Livernois. going for 600 to 700RWHP stock block with internals but ya they are right ALOT OF MONEY

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:21 PM

Yea I know. But I should be getting a good raise at work and getting my taxes back soon, just trying to get an idea whats out there. I can build the block my self next winter. Just looking to get most of the stuff i will need.

Scott2001GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:23 PM

I think your block may need to be re-honed?

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:24 PM

But the way I see it. If your going to build a good motor, you need a great base.

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:26 PM

Yea the block would have to be cleaned and all. I just want to try and keep it the same size and not have to bore it over.

Scott2001GT · February 8th, 2009, 03:38 PM

ya man I am doing the same things. I am going to do the Livernois 298ci stroker kit and a Kenneb bell 2.6L or 2.8H. don't forget tranny and re-end

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 04:08 PM

Yea I have been looking at a TKO600 trans and maybe 31 or 32 spline axles, LSD, and the 4.10 gears I have. Staying with the 8.8 rearend.

Scott2001GT · February 8th, 2009, 06:10 PM

TTC: TREMEC Transmissions

TTC: TREMEC Transmissions

other options ^^^

ya the slpine will have to be updated for sure. good rear-ends

Nossit · February 8th, 2009, 09:06 PM

I say boost the crap out of it to about 400 hp without forged internals. Thats right around where you can be with stock insides but at 400 hp you can have fun now and when you do build it, up the boost.

You're going to have a hard time hooking up with 400 hp so after I boosted it, I'd build the rear. Then I would try to up the hp.

This is kind of an impatient way to have fun but thats what I'd do.

UnixHH · February 8th, 2009, 09:18 PM

call houston performance (281-893-6080) ask for chris! this guy knows his shit and will point you in the right direction. ive spent about $15,000 with these guys and haven't had one problem.

BlackedOut04GT · February 8th, 2009, 09:56 PM

there is a ford racing dealer not to far from me. I just think that there is a less expensive way of getting of getting the same kind of power and strength from my motor. Is it possible to build a motor with forged internals without have to bore the block? Everything i have found or been told means boring the block out a min of .30 over.

ajm · February 8th, 2009, 09:57 PM

Yes its possible. What youre reading might be referring to using a used block? In which case you would want to bore it.

chefalan23 · February 8th, 2009, 10:37 PM

i know a guy thats selling a forged shortblock for 2 grand with:
Brand new FRPP 4.6L Romeo Block (Torque plate finish honed)
ARP Main Studs
Diamond 19cc Pistons (2V Valve Reliefs)
Modmax H Beam Rods (ARP 2000 rod bolts)
Federal Mogul HP Series Main/Rod Bearings
6 bolt B series Cast Crank

As mentioned above, all parts are fully machined and balanced and ready for assembly. This shortblock will withstand 600+rwhp.

AggieStang · February 9th, 2009, 05:25 PM

I just spent 8k to rebuild my engine. Be prepaired to lay down some cash...

wishIhada5.0 · February 9th, 2009, 08:43 PM

SHM seems to have good luck with Manley internals......

BlackedOut04GT · February 11th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Yea it would most likely take me a year if not 2 years to build the motor I want. I just want to make sure the car gets paid off first.

February 8th, 2009, 10:59 AM	#1
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Forged internals? So I am toying with the idea of doing forged internals for my 04 GT. I want to get a good setup but with out spending both arms, legs, and a seed maker. I want something that is not the cheapest but also not the most expensive too. I'd like to rebuild my stock block with forged pistons, rods, crank and what ever else I would need. I know, I know I will have to do the top end as well, but I have a good idea about what I want to do for that. It's just the block this has me thinking. An good ideas?

February 8th, 2009, 11:06 AM	#2
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	how much power, whats intended use of car, etc. we need more info __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

February 8th, 2009, 03:16 PM	#4
casper gt Moderator 2010 mustang gt auto Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: creighton pa Posts: 7,474 iTrader: 3 reviews	thats big power bro, be prepaired to spend big $$ to do it. __________________ MM BRACKET RACING CREW CO-FOUNDER BAMA Performance Drag Team Founder 2010 GT auto

February 8th, 2009, 09:06 PM	#13
Nossit Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT 8.65@72.5mph 1/8th Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southern WV Posts: 1,083 iTrader: 0 reviews	I say boost the crap out of it to about 400 hp without forged internals. Thats right around where you can be with stock insides but at 400 hp you can have fun now and when you do build it, up the boost. You're going to have a hard time hooking up with 400 hp so after I boosted it, I'd build the rear. Then I would try to up the hp. This is kind of an impatient way to have fun but thats what I'd do. __________________ 1999 Mustang GT - K&N drop in, Mac Prochamber, Mac CB, 555r's, 31 spline Strange axles, and 4.10's

February 8th, 2009, 09:18 PM	#14
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	call houston performance (281-893-6080) ask for chris! this guy knows his shit and will point you in the right direction. ive spent about $15,000 with these guys and haven't had one problem. __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

February 8th, 2009, 03:13 PM	#3
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Daily driver/drag and track racer. Thinking around 450-to 520ish at the wheels, but I would want it to be able to handle 700-750hp. Just in case I want to add a turbo,blower,or spray to it later.

February 8th, 2009, 03:19 PM	#5
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,628 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	I am doing Livernois. going for 600 to 700RWHP stock block with internals but ya they are right ALOT OF MONEY

February 8th, 2009, 03:21 PM	#6
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea I know. But I should be getting a good raise at work and getting my taxes back soon, just trying to get an idea whats out there. I can build the block my self next winter. Just looking to get most of the stuff i will need.

February 8th, 2009, 03:23 PM	#7
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,628 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	I think your block may need to be re-honed?

February 8th, 2009, 03:24 PM	#8
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	But the way I see it. If your going to build a good motor, you need a great base.

February 8th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#9
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea the block would have to be cleaned and all. I just want to try and keep it the same size and not have to bore it over.

February 8th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#10
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,628 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	ya man I am doing the same things. I am going to do the Livernois 298ci stroker kit and a Kenneb bell 2.6L or 2.8H. don't forget tranny and re-end

February 8th, 2009, 04:08 PM	#11
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea I have been looking at a TKO600 trans and maybe 31 or 32 spline axles, LSD, and the 4.10 gears I have. Staying with the 8.8 rearend.

February 8th, 2009, 06:10 PM	#12
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,628 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	TTC: TREMEC Transmissions TTC: TREMEC Transmissions other options ^^^ ya the slpine will have to be updated for sure. good rear-ends

February 8th, 2009, 09:56 PM	#15
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	there is a ford racing dealer not to far from me. I just think that there is a less expensive way of getting of getting the same kind of power and strength from my motor. Is it possible to build a motor with forged internals without have to bore the block? Everything i have found or been told means boring the block out a min of .30 over.

February 9th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#19
wishIhada5.0 MM Fanatic 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 3,413 iTrader: 0 reviews	SHM seems to have good luck with Manley internals...... __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno looking for block busting power...cms stage 3 blower cams on the horizon..[/

February 8th, 2009, 09:57 PM	#16
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,970 iTrader: 4 reviews	Yes its possible. What youre reading might be referring to using a used block? In which case you would want to bore it.

February 8th, 2009, 10:37 PM	#17
chefalan23 Enthusiast 07 gt Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: columbia sc Posts: 945 iTrader: 0 reviews	i know a guy thats selling a forged shortblock for 2 grand with: Brand new FRPP 4.6L Romeo Block (Torque plate finish honed) ARP Main Studs Diamond 19cc Pistons (2V Valve Reliefs) Modmax H Beam Rods (ARP 2000 rod bolts) Federal Mogul HP Series Main/Rod Bearings 6 bolt B series Cast Crank As mentioned above, all parts are fully machined and balanced and ready for assembly. This shortblock will withstand 600+rwhp. __________________ 07 GT 5spd Black on Black BBK Equal Length Shorties 4.10s FRPP K springs JLT with canned tune Pypes O/R H Pype Bomb axleback Steeda UDP

February 9th, 2009, 05:25 PM	#18
AggieStang WHOOP! 2002 Mustang GT 7.44@95 (1/8) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 3,128 iTrader: 3 reviews	I just spent 8k to rebuild my engine. Be prepaired to lay down some cash... __________________ Buy my: Nitrous Accessories Diablosport Programmer In The Classifieds

February 11th, 2009, 05:37 PM	#20
BlackedOut04GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.21@97.93 2.107 60' (Best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 1,776 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea it would most likely take me a year if not 2 years to build the motor I want. I just want to make sure the car gets paid off first.

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