Wierd noise...help plz if you can

Danny01gt · January 6th, 2007, 10:41 PM

It almost sounds like a bird chriping noise. It chirps like once ever second while ideling but speeds up with rpms increase. Its hard to tell where it is coming from. It could be under the hood or possibly the tranny, god knows.

I am also trying to assosiate it with another noise the dealership never was able to figure out. It sounds like the same pitch as the pulse chirp as stated above but it is different and only occurs at 2800ish rpms and it is a very rapid chirp and lasts to about 3k rpms but its just a real rapid bursting chirp noise then it quits.

I am trying to desirn if they both are coming from the same location and or are the same issue, or if they are two intirely different problems. Reguardless i dunno what or where they are coming from and if anybody can shine some light on this i would be greatful.

ATLmustang · January 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM

sounds like a belt or pulley i have the same problem i just spray some stop sqeek on it every now and then. you could try that and see if that works

Timber · January 6th, 2007, 11:14 PM

Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem.

Danny01gt · January 6th, 2007, 11:34 PM

If it were the belt would it be a tension issue or is it just the belt is possibly needing replacement?

Timber · January 6th, 2007, 11:49 PM

It's probably just the belt. I'm not sure about Ford's (this is my first one) but on a Chevy the idler pulley will develop a squeak eventually. If it's a tension issue, the belt tensioner will jump around a little at idle when it's worn.

HMUSN · January 7th, 2007, 04:42 AM

maby you got a civic stuck in your intake?

FOR POINT SIX · January 7th, 2007, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Timber

Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem.

But if you do this and you do not hear the noise it still my be coming from the pulley. spray some WD40 on the belt if the noise goes a way thin its the belt. But if it was me I would go ahead a change the belt if it has not been done in the past 30000miles

ATLmustang · January 7th, 2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by FOR POINT SIX

Originally Posted by Timber

Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem.

But if you do this and you do not hear the noise it still my be coming from the pulley. spray some WD40 on the belt if the noise goes a way thin its the belt. But if it was me I would go ahead a change the belt if it has not been done in the past 30000miles

i heard WD40 isnt good for the belt something about taking off the protective layer on the belt i am not sure of this though soo dont hold me to it

Danny01gt · January 7th, 2007, 02:57 PM

well if it was the belt and i wanted to lube it up a little more to take away the chrip noise, water would work fine but only for a very short time, i guess i'll try it. But i've also noticed it doesn't happen all the time. But also i wouldn't doubt it being the belt i bought it 6k miles ago and it may be time for a change approaching 30k miles.

Slicey · January 7th, 2007, 03:22 PM

ya ha ha.make sure its not the belt. i had the same issue once and it turned out to be that the serpentine belt was frayed. lol it broke on the way to autozone.

Timber · January 7th, 2007, 06:37 PM

If it is the belt, don't get a Gates or whatever the cheap ones are at the Zone's or Advanced - go to Napa and get the best one they have. Those cheap ones do not last long at all.

Keegan_Vann · January 7th, 2007, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by ATLmustang

Originally Posted by FOR POINT SIX

Originally Posted by Timber

Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem.

But if you do this and you do not hear the noise it still my be coming from the pulley. spray some WD40 on the belt if the noise goes a way thin its the belt. But if it was me I would go ahead a change the belt if it has not been done in the past 30000miles

i heard WD40 isnt good for the belt something about taking off the protective layer on the belt i am not sure of this though soo dont hold me to it

When i worked at a mechanic shop I heard the same thing not to use WD 40 bc of the protective layer. We took a crayon and ran it on the belt and it last a lot longer than the stop squek spray.

Timber · January 7th, 2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Keegan_Vann

Originally Posted by ATLmustang

Originally Posted by FOR POINT SIX

Originally Posted by Timber

Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem.

But if you do this and you do not hear the noise it still my be coming from the pulley. spray some WD40 on the belt if the noise goes a way thin its the belt. But if it was me I would go ahead a change the belt if it has not been done in the past 30000miles

i heard WD40 isnt good for the belt something about taking off the protective layer on the belt i am not sure of this though soo dont hold me to it

When i worked at a mechanic shop I heard the same thing not to use WD 40 bc of the protective layer. We took a crayon and ran it on the belt and it last a lot longer than the stop squek spray.

This is borderline silly. No offence meant to anyone! Good belt's are way too cheap to be compromising. Compared to what we spend on upgrades a quality belt is silly cheap.

Belt dressing.

No matter what you use, it's temporarily covering the noise. Buy a new quality belt from Napa.

I don't know if it's true or horseshit, but a mechanic once told me anything used as belt dressing might quiet the noise a little while but accelerated the wear. Good belts are way too cheap, and painfully cruicial to mess around with. ALWAYS use the best belt you can buy.

Keegan_Vann · January 7th, 2007, 10:21 PM

Yea definitely go with a new belt I just meant to temporaraly quiet the noise that was what we did.

Slicey · January 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM

i went cheap at autozone. its lasted me 6k miles so far. lol

a_calm_victim · January 12th, 2007, 11:19 PM

DO NOT use wd-40. That is a lube and your belt works by using friction. If you must get by with something belt dressing is less than 3 bucks and will give you a pretty good answer. A stethoscope(like what a doctor uses) is a great way to check for noises like that. Pull off the contact pad and but a short piece of brake line or something in the end. It works fantastic. And like someone else said, replacing a belt is a cheap way to save you a ton of money.

January 6th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#1
Danny01gt Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	Wierd noise...help plz if you can It almost sounds like a bird chriping noise. It chirps like once ever second while ideling but speeds up with rpms increase. Its hard to tell where it is coming from. It could be under the hood or possibly the tranny, god knows. I am also trying to assosiate it with another noise the dealership never was able to figure out. It sounds like the same pitch as the pulse chirp as stated above but it is different and only occurs at 2800ish rpms and it is a very rapid chirp and lasts to about 3k rpms but its just a real rapid bursting chirp noise then it quits. I am trying to desirn if they both are coming from the same location and or are the same issue, or if they are two intirely different problems. Reguardless i dunno what or where they are coming from and if anybody can shine some light on this i would be greatful.

January 6th, 2007, 11:14 PM	#3
Timber Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: No point mentioning those bats... Posts: 863	Sounds like the belt. With the engine stone cold, take the belt off and crank it up. You can run it briefly without it, long enough to see if that is the problem. __________________

January 6th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#5
Timber Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: No point mentioning those bats... Posts: 863	It's probably just the belt. I'm not sure about Ford's (this is my first one) but on a Chevy the idler pulley will develop a squeak eventually. If it's a tension issue, the belt tensioner will jump around a little at idle when it's worn. __________________

January 7th, 2007, 03:22 PM	#10
Slicey MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salt Lake , UT. Drive It Like You Stole It! Posts: 3,179	ya ha ha.make sure its not the belt. i had the same issue once and it turned out to be that the serpentine belt was frayed. lol it broke on the way to autozone. __________________ Official MM Zeppelineers. Crew member #3 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...anner1_178.jpg

January 7th, 2007, 06:37 PM	#11
Timber Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: No point mentioning those bats... Posts: 863	If it is the belt, don't get a Gates or whatever the cheap ones are at the Zone's or Advanced - go to Napa and get the best one they have. Those cheap ones do not last long at all. __________________

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January 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#2
ATLmustang Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Buford,GA Posts: 334	sounds like a belt or pulley i have the same problem i just spray some stop sqeek on it every now and then. you could try that and see if that works

January 6th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#4
Danny01gt Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	If it were the belt would it be a tension issue or is it just the belt is possibly needing replacement?

January 7th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#9
Danny01gt Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	well if it was the belt and i wanted to lube it up a little more to take away the chrip noise, water would work fine but only for a very short time, i guess i'll try it. But i've also noticed it doesn't happen all the time. But also i wouldn't doubt it being the belt i bought it 6k miles ago and it may be time for a change approaching 30k miles.

January 7th, 2007, 10:21 PM	#14
Keegan_Vann Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 141	Yea definitely go with a new belt I just meant to temporaraly quiet the noise that was what we did. __________________ I wanna go fast... I wanna go fast... I'm goin' fast!!!!!

January 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM	#15
Slicey MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salt Lake , UT. Drive It Like You Stole It! Posts: 3,179	i went cheap at autozone. its lasted me 6k miles so far. lol __________________ Official MM Zeppelineers. Crew member #3 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...anner1_178.jpg

January 12th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#16
a_calm_victim Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Elizabethtown, KY Posts: 17	DO NOT use wd-40. That is a lube and your belt works by using friction. If you must get by with something belt dressing is less than 3 bucks and will give you a pretty good answer. A stethoscope(like what a doctor uses) is a great way to check for noises like that. Pull off the contact pad and but a short piece of brake line or something in the end. It works fantastic. And like someone else said, replacing a belt is a cheap way to save you a ton of money.

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