timing chain guides?

SWEET2KSTANG · February 20th, 2009, 11:18 PM

anyone ever seen a set of timing chain guides used up pretty hard? when i took the timing cover off, my guides were worn pretty bad. i talked to a local guy here that said his were the same, he know of a couple windsor motors like that also. we didnt talk too much about any of the romeo's.

oh yeah, guess who's got 2 stages of nitrous on order

blkragtop · February 21st, 2009, 10:13 AM

Mine were worn pretty badly also (Windsor engine) when I disassembled it for a new rebuild. My engine had 90000miles on it; it looked to me like it could go for a while longer before it wore through to the aluminum guide arms, but since I was in there, I replaced all 4 (guides and tensioners). I was told to look for plastic crap in the oil pan from chewed up guides and tensioners, but I found nothing. Guess the wear occurs slowly and debris is captured in the oil filter.

PapaSmurf · February 21st, 2009, 10:53 AM

Congrats man! Who did you finally decide to go with for your nitrous needs?

MustangMatt96GT · February 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM

My 126k mile old engine Romeos were not worn.

limited · February 21st, 2009, 01:23 PM

Mine at 40k were like new,I have a 2000 windsor longblock w 100k+ and they were still servicable

LythGt420 · February 21st, 2009, 01:28 PM

mine were pretty worn too, pretty thin. previous owner must have not been on top of his oil changes or something. She runs perfect now tho

SWEET2KSTANG · February 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM

97k hard miles on mine. i beat the piss out of it, but i stay on top of the maint. maybe a windsor thing?

the nitrous set up is unfortuanately all NOS, i cant beat the price of it. maybe i will sell it this winter and go with a different brand.

MATT02GT · February 21st, 2009, 06:21 PM

I gotta junk motor I tore down and the guides were worn pretty good. Not sure of the mileage tho

RAGEman · February 21st, 2009, 06:37 PM

Should I change mine out while doing cams? My car is an 02 with 63k on it. What were the years for the Windsor/Romeo motor cars? I believe mine is a Romeo. Also, I have been told one of them had plastic guides the other were something else...any detail on that?

MustangMatt96GT · February 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM

just a thought, but the windsor guides are made differently than the romeos.

could be that because of the different manufacturing, that it caused quicker wear patterns.

and RAGEman: i would replace them if you have the money.

ajm · February 21st, 2009, 06:50 PM

The ones in my romeo looked really good at 70k. Not that it helps you much but just a little input for comparison of the wear of romeo vs windsor ones.

SWEET2KSTANG · February 22nd, 2009, 01:28 AM

i think i will just put replacing them off for now, i havent heard of a 4.6 jumping time that i can remember.

February 20th, 2009, 11:18 PM	#1
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	timing chain guides? anyone ever seen a set of timing chain guides used up pretty hard? when i took the timing cover off, my guides were worn pretty bad. i talked to a local guy here that said his were the same, he know of a couple windsor motors like that also. we didnt talk too much about any of the romeo's. oh yeah, guess who's got 2 stages of nitrous on order __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

February 21st, 2009, 10:53 AM	#3
PapaSmurf Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT 12.28 @ 116 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 2,554 iTrader: 13 reviews	Congrats man! Who did you finally decide to go with for your nitrous needs? __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue GT---SLP Longtubes, SLP X, Magnaflow Magnapack CB, 75mm TB/Plenum, MP2 Performance stage 2 heads, MHS Stage 3R cams, Built rear w/4.30's

February 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM	#4
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	My 126k mile old engine Romeos were not worn. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

February 21st, 2009, 01:23 PM	#5
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,297 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine at 40k were like new,I have a 2000 windsor longblock w 100k+ and they were still servicable __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

February 21st, 2009, 01:28 PM	#6
LythGt420 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 reviews	mine were pretty worn too, pretty thin. previous owner must have not been on top of his oil changes or something. She runs perfect now tho __________________ 2002 MUSTANG GT JLT cold air, O/R mac prochamber H pipe, Magnapack cat back, diablo 93 octane Tune, FRPP C springs, MGW shifter, FRPP 4.10's stage 2 cams supercharger

February 21st, 2009, 10:13 AM	#2
blkragtop Regular 2000 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 112 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine were worn pretty badly also (Windsor engine) when I disassembled it for a new rebuild. My engine had 90000miles on it; it looked to me like it could go for a while longer before it wore through to the aluminum guide arms, but since I was in there, I replaced all 4 (guides and tensioners). I was told to look for plastic crap in the oil pan from chewed up guides and tensioners, but I found nothing. Guess the wear occurs slowly and debris is captured in the oil filter.

February 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM	#7
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	97k hard miles on mine. i beat the piss out of it, but i stay on top of the maint. maybe a windsor thing? the nitrous set up is unfortuanately all NOS, i cant beat the price of it. maybe i will sell it this winter and go with a different brand. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

February 21st, 2009, 06:21 PM	#8
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	I gotta junk motor I tore down and the guides were worn pretty good. Not sure of the mileage tho __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

February 21st, 2009, 06:37 PM	#9
RAGEman Enthusiast 1965 Mustang Fastback N/A Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: La Porte, Texas Posts: 819 iTrader: 0 reviews	Should I change mine out while doing cams? My car is an 02 with 63k on it. What were the years for the Windsor/Romeo motor cars? I believe mine is a Romeo. Also, I have been told one of them had plastic guides the other were something else...any detail on that?

February 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM	#10
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	just a thought, but the windsor guides are made differently than the romeos. could be that because of the different manufacturing, that it caused quicker wear patterns. and RAGEman: i would replace them if you have the money. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

February 21st, 2009, 06:50 PM	#11
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	The ones in my romeo looked really good at 70k. Not that it helps you much but just a little input for comparison of the wear of romeo vs windsor ones.

February 22nd, 2009, 01:28 AM	#12
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	i think i will just put replacing them off for now, i havent heard of a 4.6 jumping time that i can remember. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

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