Turbo question

alistair · March 1st, 2009, 11:16 PM

I have a 2004 mach 1 and I belive it is time for a turbo. what is the max psi one should go to be safe with a stock engine.

Lefty · March 1st, 2009, 11:16 PM

Is your Mach auto or stick?

alistair · March 1st, 2009, 11:18 PM

yes sorry guess I should of put that it is a 5 speed

Lefty · March 1st, 2009, 11:22 PM

I personally wouldn't push 500-515hp at the crank. Just to be on the safe side.

alistair · March 1st, 2009, 11:24 PM

well that number is better than what I exspected it to be was thinking 450 heh but extra 50 is always better

Lefty · March 1st, 2009, 11:26 PM

Well me, on my Cobra, I plan on going like 475 at the crank. I don't have the money for a rebuild so I'm playing it really safe.

Mach Boy · March 2nd, 2009, 12:09 AM

You're both probably talking in two different terms. Lefty talking crank and OP talking RWHP. 450RWHP on the stock motor should be your stopping point. People have done more and blown the motor and people have done less and blown their motor. But the majority of people will say keep it below 450rwhp.

yojoe600 · March 2nd, 2009, 12:10 AM

dont go over 450 rwhp unless u forge everything

Mach Boy · March 2nd, 2009, 12:13 AM

Welcome to the forums OP and make your way over to the 4V forum for Mach questions.

moosenuk17 · March 2nd, 2009, 12:14 AM

what turbo you gna go with?

GTRACER88 · March 2nd, 2009, 02:34 AM

Turbos are less stress on the motors that a supercharger is, so i wouldnt go over 500 rwhp. Weakest link is the rods. I would probably push no more than 9-10 psi.

ZsMach1 · March 2nd, 2009, 02:50 AM

I think most shops with good knowledge of our cars will not push your car for any more than 450Rwhp. I was talking to the shop that has been doing the work on my car and without a built engine they will not go over 450 even if I beg.

Hope that helps, good luck and have fun with whatever Hp you choose.

moosenuk17 · March 2nd, 2009, 02:58 AM

doesnt matter s/c or turbo, 450 at the very max without forged internals

Black Bullitt · March 2nd, 2009, 09:05 AM

To be extra safe don't push it past 400 to the wheels. Why chance blowing your engine for an extra 50 hp.

UnixHH · March 2nd, 2009, 09:13 AM

I do it for the extra 70 LOL.

03gtfirered · March 2nd, 2009, 09:50 AM

450rwhp is 450RWHP no matter supercharger or turbo or if you hook a leaf blower to your intake. I strongly believe that its how the car was taking care of before you slaped a blower on there that determines that point of breakage. ie. oil changes, how often you beat on it, how many miles, etc. but 450rwhp on stock internals is pushing the limit in my opinion. but thats just me. i wouldnt push no more than 380-400rwhp til i forged my internals. good luck with your build and hope to see the finish product.

spokanemustang · March 2nd, 2009, 10:20 AM

How much is a single turbo kit for like a normal GT???

moosenuk17 · March 2nd, 2009, 11:12 AM

i dont know but there is a stage 1 twin turbo for like 7k

SteviGX · March 2nd, 2009, 12:51 PM

Turbo Kits for Ford Mustangs found that company couple days ago...good prices, but i've never heard anything good or bad about them...it's a 70 trim single turbo kit for 1800 bux but you need tubular front and fuel system on top of that

moosenuk17 · March 2nd, 2009, 01:48 PM

but still sounds like a good turbo, all it is is a turbo(1800) fuel pump(105)injectors(250)kmember(650)=3500 MAX

March 1st, 2009, 11:16 PM	#1
alistair Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	Turbo question I have a 2004 mach 1 and I belive it is time for a turbo. what is the max psi one should go to be safe with a stock engine.

March 1st, 2009, 11:16 PM	#2
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,386 iTrader: 11 reviews	Is your Mach auto or stick? __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

March 1st, 2009, 11:22 PM	#4
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,386 iTrader: 11 reviews	I personally wouldn't push 500-515hp at the crank. Just to be on the safe side. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

March 1st, 2009, 11:26 PM	#6
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,386 iTrader: 11 reviews	Well me, on my Cobra, I plan on going like 475 at the crank. I don't have the money for a rebuild so I'm playing it really safe. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

March 2nd, 2009, 12:09 AM	#7
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	You're both probably talking in two different terms. Lefty talking crank and OP talking RWHP. 450RWHP on the stock motor should be your stopping point. People have done more and blown the motor and people have done less and blown their motor. But the majority of people will say keep it below 450rwhp. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

March 1st, 2009, 11:18 PM	#3
alistair Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes sorry guess I should of put that it is a 5 speed

March 1st, 2009, 11:24 PM	#5
alistair Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	well that number is better than what I exspected it to be was thinking 450 heh but extra 50 is always better

March 2nd, 2009, 12:13 AM	#9
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Welcome to the forums OP and make your way over to the 4V forum for Mach questions. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

March 2nd, 2009, 12:14 AM	#10
moosenuk17 MM Fanatic 2000 ford mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san diego CA Posts: 4,014 iTrader: 0 reviews	what turbo you gna go with? __________________ 2000 kenne bell GT (440HP-432TQ) Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com dyno vid:http://youtu.be/lr3xpxw2_v8 2011 escape MUSTANG TAT CREW

March 2nd, 2009, 02:34 AM	#11
GTRACER88 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,153 iTrader: 1 reviews	Turbos are less stress on the motors that a supercharger is, so i wouldnt go over 500 rwhp. Weakest link is the rods. I would probably push no more than 9-10 psi. __________________ Super Slow 2011 Grabber blue V6... Last edited by GTRACER88; March 2nd, 2009 at 02:37 AM.

March 2nd, 2009, 02:50 AM	#12
ZsMach1 Regular 2003 Mach1 Mustang 13.83@101.67 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 288 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think most shops with good knowledge of our cars will not push your car for any more than 450Rwhp. I was talking to the shop that has been doing the work on my car and without a built engine they will not go over 450 even if I beg. Hope that helps, good luck and have fun with whatever Hp you choose. __________________ 2003 Mach1 mustang: JLT Cold Air Intake (Dark shadow gray) FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft Xcal2 with custom tune Magnaflow x-pipe Mac catback(still have all stock cats) Tokico illumina adjustable rear shocks Nitto 555R 275/40/17

March 2nd, 2009, 02:58 AM	#13
moosenuk17 MM Fanatic 2000 ford mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san diego CA Posts: 4,014 iTrader: 0 reviews	doesnt matter s/c or turbo, 450 at the very max without forged internals __________________ 2000 kenne bell GT (440HP-432TQ) Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com dyno vid:http://youtu.be/lr3xpxw2_v8 2011 escape MUSTANG TAT CREW

March 2nd, 2009, 09:13 AM	#15
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do it for the extra 70 LOL. __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

March 2nd, 2009, 10:20 AM	#17
spokanemustang Regular 1999 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 210 iTrader: 1 reviews	How much is a single turbo kit for like a normal GT??? __________________ Military Crew M1A1 Tanker

March 2nd, 2009, 11:12 AM	#18
moosenuk17 MM Fanatic 2000 ford mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san diego CA Posts: 4,014 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont know but there is a stage 1 twin turbo for like 7k __________________ 2000 kenne bell GT (440HP-432TQ) Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com dyno vid:http://youtu.be/lr3xpxw2_v8 2011 escape MUSTANG TAT CREW

March 2nd, 2009, 12:51 PM	#19
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,545 iTrader: 2 reviews	Turbo Kits for Ford Mustangs found that company couple days ago...good prices, but i've never heard anything good or bad about them...it's a 70 trim single turbo kit for 1800 bux but you need tubular front and fuel system on top of that __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

March 2nd, 2009, 01:48 PM	#20
moosenuk17 MM Fanatic 2000 ford mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san diego CA Posts: 4,014 iTrader: 0 reviews	but still sounds like a good turbo, all it is is a turbo(1800) fuel pump(105)injectors(250)kmember(650)=3500 MAX __________________ 2000 kenne bell GT (440HP-432TQ) Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com dyno vid:http://youtu.be/lr3xpxw2_v8 2011 escape MUSTANG TAT CREW

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