5.4 Swap - NEED INFO

quiksilver225 · April 8th, 2009, 08:39 PM

The ticking sound in the motor of my '99 GT sure sounds a lot like a rod bearing on the way out. That being the case ive decided not to waste my time rebuilding a 4.6 or dumping more money into a 110,000 mile motor and put a 5.4 in its stead. I know that most people like to get these from ford trucks and vans(f-150, f-250, e-150, etc.) but i need to know what models and years of trucks and vans to look for. Furthermore id like to know what motor will be the best choice for the swap. Im gonna stay 2V SOHC for the sake of ease as well as pricing, but i want to know my options and what the benefits are between the different choices. Casting numbers would obviously be the best thing if anyone has them at hand, but i dont anticipate that many people will. Later ill also need to know what other parts ill need for the swap(flywheel, intake, adapter plates, etc.) and where to get them. For know id really like to know where to look for this motor cause ill be doing this within the month.

P.S. i know there are other threads related to this topic. Please dont try to direct me elsewhere. I am a senior in college and simply DO NOT have the time to weed through thousands of posts across hundreds of threads to get the info im looking for. Thanks.

zigbigadoru · April 8th, 2009, 08:50 PM

get an 00-01 5.4 from an expedition or f-150. it will have the pi heads, be lighter weight due to not having that NVH bullcrap, and you get your 5.4. then all you really need is an hps 5.4 intake manifold and your pretty much done. that is if your going 2v, cant really speak much about 4v. any other questions plz ask

quiksilver225 · April 8th, 2009, 08:51 PM

Budget is gonna have to be $2,000 max. You can also account for whatever money i may make from the sale of my 4.6 engine.

quiksilver225 · April 8th, 2009, 08:54 PM

i also have a full exhaust that cost me about $1,500 and is only slightly more than a year old. BBK LT's, BBK catted x pipe, SLP Loudmouth cat back. Id like to keep this if possible. Actually i would REALLY like to keep these thing since i scrapped the old exhaust...

GTRACER88 · April 8th, 2009, 09:19 PM

You will not be able to keep your LT, and that means you will need a new mid pipe. A 5.4L will drop right in. It will reuse the factory harnesses so there will be no problems, you might have to extend a few wires though.

mystang0673 · April 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM

what kinda headers will fit for the 5.4 swap?

casper gt · April 8th, 2009, 11:29 PM

bunch of diffrent opinions on headers but while researching my 5.4 swap best answer I came up with is stock (mustang 4.6) manifolds or frrp shorties. as for the motor it's self get what you can afford/find but don't forget earlier motor's (pre 99) have forged crank's from the factory. good luck.

BakerFX4 · April 8th, 2009, 11:39 PM

i didnt know that swapping the 5.4 sohc in there would be an almost direct swap. I thought you would still need the wiring harness, computer, etc.

casper gt · April 8th, 2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

i didnt know that swapping the 5.4 sohc in there would be an almost direct swap. I thought you would still need the wiring harness, computer, etc.

minor tweaking of exhaust & an intake manifold about the only issues (very easily overcome though). very minor wiring work also. but a simple bolt in for the most part.

BakerFX4 · April 8th, 2009, 11:57 PM

damn... i have a 5.4 DOHC that i need to get rid of. The motor is tore down but im getting out of this entire hobby i think so i wont be needing it. heads are bare, block is bare, but i have all the pieces. If anyone you know is looking for any of the pieces let me know.

casper gt · April 9th, 2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

damn... i have a 5.4 DOHC that i need to get rid of. The motor is tore down but im getting out of this entire hobby i think so i wont be needing it. heads are bare, block is bare, but i have all the pieces. If anyone you know is looking for any of the pieces let me know.

my advice was for sohc, dohc much,much diffrent

mystang0673 · April 9th, 2009, 12:31 AM

What about 3v?

casper gt · April 9th, 2009, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

What about 3v?

I'd look into the 4.6 3v swap stuff out there. I'd bet some of it will cross over.

quiksilver225 · April 9th, 2009, 03:45 AM

what truck/van is gonna be the best choice to get a motor from? year and model? and y? i believe the lightning 5.4 has forged internals. is this the best choice?

mustang_gtr_99 · April 9th, 2009, 03:58 AM

Unless he finds a deal on a 3V engine like I did he would be over budget. The conversion is simple though and the Kit from Logan MS alows you to use your existing ECU and exhaust. I know you said you didnt want to rebuild your 4.6 but honestly, thats what I would do on that budget. Good luck

quiksilver225 · April 9th, 2009, 04:19 AM

i can get a 2v for 1k or less. its retarded to rebuild a 100,000 mile motor if i can get a larger one for less. lol. shouldve done this sooner.

mustang_gtr_99 · April 9th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

i can get a 2v for 1k or less. its retarded to rebuild a 100,000 mile motor if i can get a larger one for less. lol. shouldve done this sooner.

K, have fun

quiksilver225 · April 9th, 2009, 04:29 AM

where is this Logan MS kit? i checked their site and cant find it.

mustang_gtr_99 · April 9th, 2009, 04:32 AM

Logan Motorsports - SCT Tuning

I am building my forged 3V to convert now. I have been talking to tham a lot an it is easy

quiksilver225 · April 9th, 2009, 04:42 AM

never in a million years would i wast my time with that non sense. who in their right mind... nm... just stick to the 5.4 stuff. 2v that is.

April 8th, 2009, 08:39 PM	#1
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	5.4 Swap - NEED INFO The ticking sound in the motor of my '99 GT sure sounds a lot like a rod bearing on the way out. That being the case ive decided not to waste my time rebuilding a 4.6 or dumping more money into a 110,000 mile motor and put a 5.4 in its stead. I know that most people like to get these from ford trucks and vans(f-150, f-250, e-150, etc.) but i need to know what models and years of trucks and vans to look for. Furthermore id like to know what motor will be the best choice for the swap. Im gonna stay 2V SOHC for the sake of ease as well as pricing, but i want to know my options and what the benefits are between the different choices. Casting numbers would obviously be the best thing if anyone has them at hand, but i dont anticipate that many people will. Later ill also need to know what other parts ill need for the swap(flywheel, intake, adapter plates, etc.) and where to get them. For know id really like to know where to look for this motor cause ill be doing this within the month. P.S. i know there are other threads related to this topic. Please dont try to direct me elsewhere. I am a senior in college and simply DO NOT have the time to weed through thousands of posts across hundreds of threads to get the info im looking for. Thanks. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

April 8th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#2
zigbigadoru Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: lansing, MI Posts: 897	get an 00-01 5.4 from an expedition or f-150. it will have the pi heads, be lighter weight due to not having that NVH bullcrap, and you get your 5.4. then all you really need is an hps 5.4 intake manifold and your pretty much done. that is if your going 2v, cant really speak much about 4v. any other questions plz ask __________________ quote from the gathering storm: how do you fight someone who is smarter than yourself? the answer is simple. you make her think that you are sitting across the table from her, ready to play her game. then you punch her in the face as hard as you can

April 8th, 2009, 08:51 PM	#3
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	Budget is gonna have to be $2,000 max. You can also account for whatever money i may make from the sale of my 4.6 engine. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

April 8th, 2009, 08:54 PM	#4
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	i also have a full exhaust that cost me about $1,500 and is only slightly more than a year old. BBK LT's, BBK catted x pipe, SLP Loudmouth cat back. Id like to keep this if possible. Actually i would REALLY like to keep these thing since i scrapped the old exhaust... __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

April 8th, 2009, 09:19 PM	#5
GTRACER88 Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 593	You will not be able to keep your LT, and that means you will need a new mid pipe. A 5.4L will drop right in. It will reuse the factory harnesses so there will be no problems, you might have to extend a few wires though. __________________ Cheapest install in all of houston. PM me. My car is not a she, it's a he. And, his name is Bruce Wayne!

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April 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#6
mystang0673 Hardcore Enthusiast 12.0@113 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,122	what kinda headers will fit for the 5.4 swap? __________________

April 8th, 2009, 11:29 PM	#7
casper gt Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang gt auto 13.52@102 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cheswick pa Posts: 2,196	bunch of diffrent opinions on headers but while researching my 5.4 swap best answer I came up with is stock (mustang 4.6) manifolds or frrp shorties. as for the motor it's self get what you can afford/find but don't forget earlier motor's (pre 99) have forged crank's from the factory. good luck. __________________ 2000 gt auto http://www.pittsburghracewaypark.com/

April 8th, 2009, 11:39 PM	#8
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 5,430	i didnt know that swapping the 5.4 sohc in there would be an almost direct swap. I thought you would still need the wiring harness, computer, etc. __________________

April 8th, 2009, 11:57 PM	#10
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 5,430	damn... i have a 5.4 DOHC that i need to get rid of. The motor is tore down but im getting out of this entire hobby i think so i wont be needing it. heads are bare, block is bare, but i have all the pieces. If anyone you know is looking for any of the pieces let me know. __________________

April 9th, 2009, 12:31 AM	#12
mystang0673 Hardcore Enthusiast 12.0@113 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,122	What about 3v? __________________

April 9th, 2009, 03:45 AM	#14
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	what truck/van is gonna be the best choice to get a motor from? year and model? and y? i believe the lightning 5.4 has forged internals. is this the best choice? __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

April 9th, 2009, 03:58 AM	#15
mustang_gtr_99 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 GT kinda corner carver Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 1,246	Unless he finds a deal on a 3V engine like I did he would be over budget. The conversion is simple though and the Kit from Logan MS alows you to use your existing ECU and exhaust. I know you said you didnt want to rebuild your 4.6 but honestly, thats what I would do on that budget. Good luck __________________

April 9th, 2009, 04:19 AM	#16
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	i can get a 2v for 1k or less. its retarded to rebuild a 100,000 mile motor if i can get a larger one for less. lol. shouldve done this sooner. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

April 9th, 2009, 04:29 AM	#18
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	where is this Logan MS kit? i checked their site and cant find it. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

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mustang_gtr_99 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 GT kinda corner carver Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 1,246	Logan Motorsports - SCT Tuning I am building my forged 3V to convert now. I have been talking to tham a lot an it is easy Attached Thumbnails __________________ Last edited by mustang_gtr_99 : April 9th, 2009 at 04:35 AM.

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quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	never in a million years would i wast my time with that non sense. who in their right mind... nm... just stick to the 5.4 stuff. 2v that is. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

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