Rod knocking, motor shopping.

C0BRAK1LL3R · May 18th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Might have to start looking for a motor if my knock gets any worse. Whats the best way to go about getting a motor? Cheapest and quickest way. Not looking for carb motor.

Lefty · May 18th, 2009, 04:09 PM

03/04 Termi motor swap. You can find a full drivetrain w/ ECU for around 75-8k. Engine, Tranny, ECU, etc. (Sometimes you may find them cheaper and other times you may find a package deal for like 1k more.)

But before you jump too conclusions looking for a new engine you may want to consider rebuilding yours w/ some forged internals, etc. if money is going to be tight.

quiksilver225 · May 18th, 2009, 04:58 PM

im in a similar situation. rod bearing on the way out... i decided to go with a 5.4 4V motor swap. i have a gigantic thread on here with a ton of good info on both the 2V and 4V 5.4s. check it out. the 2V is extremely simple to do(as easy as putting in another 4.6).

C0BRAK1LL3R · May 18th, 2009, 09:20 PM

what would be a price estimate for the motor. I can do all the labor.

Lefty · May 18th, 2009, 11:38 PM

It depends on what motor you want man.

Willy Mo · May 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM

rebuild with forged internals would def be the cheapest. andprobably the quickest. maybe do a stroker while your at it. but a 03/04 termie would be aweful nice!

ndfrspd · May 19th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lefty

03/04 Termi motor swap. You can find a full drivetrain w/ ECU for around 75-8k. Engine, Tranny, ECU, etc. (Sometimes you may find them cheaper and other times you may find a package deal for like 1k more.)

But before you jump too conclusions looking for a new engine you may want to consider rebuilding yours w/ some forged internals, etc. if money is going to be tight.

rebuild kits sell for well over a grand. dont rebuild it, save yourself some time and money and just buy a new one. craigslist, craigslist, craigslist. thats all there is. i just bought a motor i have been looking for 6 months now my 98GT had a knock. just got my hands on a 02 PI crown vic motor and just about to drop it in. Just find one, swap it, run it, crack a beer, drive it fast.

Boostang · May 19th, 2009, 12:21 AM

mmr 900 short block!!!!! pure sex!

quiksilver225 · May 19th, 2009, 12:26 AM

you can get a 5.4 for less than a grand. complete and running.

Exodus · May 19th, 2009, 12:33 AM

MMR rotated and balanced shortblock, then swap everything over, in and out for less than 4k and bullet proof.

C0BRAK1LL3R · May 19th, 2009, 02:46 PM

I cant decide if I want to rebuild or just get a running motor. I'd like to do a 5.4 swap would be nice but I want something strong I can throw a good size shot and not be worried about it snapping. Looking at a budget of say 2,500?

Eagle2000GT · May 19th, 2009, 04:07 PM

The only recommendation above that is both easy and cheap is to get one from Craigs list. The MMR short block rebuild, 4v swap or 5.4 swap are not necessarily what I would call easy (meaning a direct drop in or slight modification). If you don't want to use Craigs list go to a nearby salvage yard and pick up a 2v. The salvage yards I've dealt with all give you a short warranty period. If you feel ambitious then go to the salvage yard and get a 3v then get the 3v conversion. You won't have to buy a complete new exhaust and you can use your stock wiring harness and ECU.

C0BRAK1LL3R · May 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM

Now looking, Im kind of interested in the 5.4 swap. What all do I use of the 4.6 block?

acmillr · May 19th, 2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by C0BRAK1LL3R

I cant decide if I want to rebuild or just get a running motor. I'd like to do a 5.4 swap would be nice but I want something strong I can throw a good size shot and not be worried about it snapping. Looking at a budget of say 2,500?

A 5.4 swap is going to be a waste of time. The kids on here talk 5.4 all day long, but the only one who has actually done the swap and produced numbers for scrutiny put down 280RWHP after building the shortblock, ported heads, ported hardballr intake, comp cams, and spending about $3000 for a set of headers that would work with the swap. For all the people suggesting the 5.4, ask them what their cars have made (power wise) with the 5.4 and you are going to hear a list of fantasies and excuses about 10 pages long. As far as the 5.4 swap thread goes, it is chocked full of needless chit chat and theories. If you want a strong 4.6, I will be glad to give you some advise that will get you right around 340-350 HP and TQ from a stock stroke and bore 4.6- and that's proven.

roosgt! · May 19th, 2009, 04:47 PM

heres where i buy all my stuff it's in ontario
pretty cheap all in canadian $
have a look
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May 18th, 2009, 04:07 PM	#1
C0BRAK1LL3R Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 262 iTrader: 0 reviews	Rod knocking, motor shopping. Might have to start looking for a motor if my knock gets any worse. Whats the best way to go about getting a motor? Cheapest and quickest way. Not looking for carb motor. __________________ 2000 GT JLT Shortram, Mac long tubes, Mac o/r H pipe, UPR k member kit, UPR Billet cc plates, Spec stage 2, steeda clutch quad. 1/8th mile-9.035, 1.980 60ft just flows. New time- 8.92, 2.28 60ft. Mods.

May 18th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#2
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,356 iTrader: 11 reviews	03/04 Termi motor swap. You can find a full drivetrain w/ ECU for around 75-8k. Engine, Tranny, ECU, etc. (Sometimes you may find them cheaper and other times you may find a package deal for like 1k more.) But before you jump too conclusions looking for a new engine you may want to consider rebuilding yours w/ some forged internals, etc. if money is going to be tight. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

May 18th, 2009, 04:58 PM	#3
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	im in a similar situation. rod bearing on the way out... i decided to go with a 5.4 4V motor swap. i have a gigantic thread on here with a ton of good info on both the 2V and 4V 5.4s. check it out. the 2V is extremely simple to do(as easy as putting in another 4.6). __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

May 18th, 2009, 09:20 PM	#4
C0BRAK1LL3R Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 262 iTrader: 0 reviews	what would be a price estimate for the motor. I can do all the labor. __________________ 2000 GT JLT Shortram, Mac long tubes, Mac o/r H pipe, UPR k member kit, UPR Billet cc plates, Spec stage 2, steeda clutch quad. 1/8th mile-9.035, 1.980 60ft just flows. New time- 8.92, 2.28 60ft. Mods.

May 18th, 2009, 11:38 PM	#5
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,356 iTrader: 11 reviews	It depends on what motor you want man. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

May 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM	#6
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,333 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	rebuild with forged internals would def be the cheapest. andprobably the quickest. maybe do a stroker while your at it. but a 03/04 termie would be aweful nice! __________________

May 19th, 2009, 12:21 AM	#8
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,748 iTrader: 0 reviews	mmr 900 short block!!!!! pure sex! __________________ If It Dont Flow It Wont Go!!! forged pistons,teksid block and a romeo cast cranks for sale.. pm if interested.. selling them for next too nothing

May 19th, 2009, 12:26 AM	#9
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can get a 5.4 for less than a grand. complete and running. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

May 19th, 2009, 12:33 AM	#10
Exodus Regular 02 mineral grey GT SORC 29 miles 13 mins 14 secs Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nebraska Posts: 411 iTrader: 0 reviews	MMR rotated and balanced shortblock, then swap everything over, in and out for less than 4k and bullet proof. __________________

May 19th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#11
C0BRAK1LL3R Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 262 iTrader: 0 reviews	I cant decide if I want to rebuild or just get a running motor. I'd like to do a 5.4 swap would be nice but I want something strong I can throw a good size shot and not be worried about it snapping. Looking at a budget of say 2,500? __________________ 2000 GT JLT Shortram, Mac long tubes, Mac o/r H pipe, UPR k member kit, UPR Billet cc plates, Spec stage 2, steeda clutch quad. 1/8th mile-9.035, 1.980 60ft just flows. New time- 8.92, 2.28 60ft. Mods.

May 19th, 2009, 04:07 PM	#12
Eagle2000GT MM Fanatic 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 4,732 iTrader: 1 reviews	The only recommendation above that is both easy and cheap is to get one from Craigs list. The MMR short block rebuild, 4v swap or 5.4 swap are not necessarily what I would call easy (meaning a direct drop in or slight modification). If you don't want to use Craigs list go to a nearby salvage yard and pick up a 2v. The salvage yards I've dealt with all give you a short warranty period. If you feel ambitious then go to the salvage yard and get a 3v then get the 3v conversion. You won't have to buy a complete new exhaust and you can use your stock wiring harness and ECU. __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

May 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM	#13
C0BRAK1LL3R Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 262 iTrader: 0 reviews	Now looking, Im kind of interested in the 5.4 swap. What all do I use of the 4.6 block? __________________ 2000 GT JLT Shortram, Mac long tubes, Mac o/r H pipe, UPR k member kit, UPR Billet cc plates, Spec stage 2, steeda clutch quad. 1/8th mile-9.035, 1.980 60ft just flows. New time- 8.92, 2.28 60ft. Mods.

May 19th, 2009, 04:47 PM	#15
roosgt! MM Official Sammich Maker 1999 mustang gt n/a Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 3,400 iTrader: 0 reviews	heres where i buy all my stuff it's in ontario pretty cheap all in canadian $ have a look Sean Hyland Motorsport - Ford Crate Engines, Shortblocks, Longblocks

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