[01silversnake]

I realize that this is probably a little while down the road but what are the best performing superchargers. It always seems like when you watch videos of nasty mustangs they always have either a KB or a whipple. Are these the two best that are made?

[Drgnracin72]

WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE CAR?

[StangAddiction]

Centrifugal= Max boost at redline, More top end power, less low end torque
Twin Screw= Lower max boost rpm, More low end toque, less top end power
Roots Type= low max boost rpm, more low end torque, less top end power( and low thermal efficiency, which means they produce a lot of heat)

There is no "BEST" supercharger. It depends on your preference. Depends on how your engine is setup, and where you want your powerband to be.

Best supercharger ever made= doesn't exist..

[Ryno]

The Kenne Bells just look awsome under the hood though... I was savin up some $ to get a supercharger and was wondering if any of them allowed me to keep my K&N CAI? I was considering a centrifugal one because they seem to be cheaper, but every one that i have seen has its own air filter... I always thought the KB's were the best (you can get them with everything u need to install it including injectors and a chip all in the same package)

[M.O.B.Fab]

Originally Posted by StangAddiction Centrifugal= Max boost at redline, More top end power, less low end torque Twin Screw= Lower max boost rpm, More low end toque, less top end power Roots Type= low max boost rpm, more low end torque, less top end power( and low thermal efficiency, which means they produce a lot of heat).

you say a centrifical makes its power at high RPMs...so would a twin screw or roots be easier on your motor? since you dont have to wind it out as much to get the power?...

im about to order my supercharger...itll be goin on a 01 cobra with all boltons...but will be a daily driver that goes to the track maybe once or twice a month....would a twin screw be safer for a DD?

sorry to hijack, just had some quick questions....
James

[Drgnracin72]

i think the roots are harder on the car becasue the instant huge torque

[StangAddiction]

Originally Posted by M.O.B.Fab Originally Posted by StangAddiction Centrifugal= Max boost at redline, More top end power, less low end torque Twin Screw= Lower max boost rpm, More low end toque, less top end power Roots Type= low max boost rpm, more low end torque, less top end power( and low thermal efficiency, which means they produce a lot of heat). you say a centrifical makes its power at high RPMs...so would a twin screw or roots be easier on your motor? since you dont have to wind it out as much to get the power?... im about to order my supercharger...itll be goin on a 01 cobra with all boltons...but will be a daily driver that goes to the track maybe once or twice a month....would a twin screw be safer for a DD? sorry to hijack, just had some quick questions.... James

If you want more streetability get a twin screw (kenne bell). If you'd prefer your care to be a track performer get a centrifugal (vortech, paxton, procharger, etc..). I really dont reccomend roots-type for anything. Why? Becuase they produce a lot of heat, they put more parasitic drag on the engine, they're harder on the internals, and companies that make them are few and far between (which should indicate something right there). Ford put a roots-type on the cobra becuase they're cheaper to build than the twin screw, and centrifugal systems dont produce the ideal torque and power curves of a street car.

[SWEET2KSTANG]

as far as the safety of the motor, all of them are the same. as long as the car is tuned for the s/c there will be minimal damage from one to another. the roots, screw is better on bottom but more heat. the screw types are the most efficient when compared to the roots. whipple and KB are the most popular in this category. centrifugals are best for top end performance when the rpm's will stay high. my personal preference is the procharger for that app. they have the coolest output air temps, isnt as harsh on the air, due to the impeller design.

[M.O.B.Fab]

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG as far as the safety of the motor, all of them are the same. as long as the car is tuned for the s/c there will be minimal damage from one to another. the roots, screw is better on bottom but more heat. the screw types are the most efficient when compared to the roots. whipple and KB are the most popular in this category. centrifugals are best for top end performance when the rpm's will stay high. my personal preference is the procharger for that app. they have the coolest output air temps, isnt as harsh on the air, due to the impeller design.

yea, ive had my heart set on procharger, but i just dont wanna cause any harm to my car over time...i'll probly run this one 4 years or so before it becomes an actual track only car....and im kindda new to F/I...thanks for the info yall!

[M.O.B.Fab]

oh yea, sorry...but does anyone know a ballpark price on the KenneBell 2.1l 9psi Intercooled kit?.....ill call them on monday probly, but just seein if anyone knew about how much....

damn, i really need to quit hijackin thread....sorry 01silversnake!

[sonicblue]

i believe 5000. and 5500 for the 2.6.

[SWEET2KSTANG]

all kits that are made specific for the mustang is made for a stock set up without comprimising drivability or premature wear unless otherwise specified. there are competition kits that require other mods (ex. forged bottom end) but all kits will state information on all apps. i know guys that are running boost and some that are spraying without any problems with drivability problems. they all been running it for a long while now.

[neckbonekat]

Here is the full KB price list. A '99 Cobra, intercooled with 9 psi your looking at $6799.
http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/SC-PRICELIST.pdf

[WAVEBYE]

Originally Posted by neckbonekat Here is the full KB price list. A '99 Cobra, intercooled with 9 psi your looking at $6799.

dude for that price,maaaaaybe a little more you could get a twin turbo kit and put down probably,just a guess, 100-150 more hp than a KB

[MSTGGT00]

You basically would have been better off asking what came first. The chicken or the ... egg?

Anyway.

Procharger.

[neckbonekat]

9 PSI INTERCOOLED
KENNE BELL 2.1L 8-12 psi 6 Rib System
KENNE BELL 2.1L 13-21 psi 8 Rib System
Same power potential as the '03-'04 Cobra with the Kenne Bell kit. 9 psi about max on pump gas with stock rods & pistons. This kit will produce 462HP at 9 psi and 449HP at 7.5 psi.Kit includes necessary fuel system and inlet upgrades (Kenne Bell Cool Air Kit, BOOST-A-PUMP™, 90mm Meter, SWITCH CHIP®, 42lb Injectors and Cobra Inlet Tube). Max boost for the 2.1L is 18 psi, but Cobra/Manley low compression pistons and rods are necessary for boost above 9 psi. '03 Cobra intercooler, heat exchanger, fill tank pump, hoses, fittings, adaptors and all hardware is included.

These are comparisons between our stock '03 Cobra/Eaton vs. the stock '99-'01 test cars. Both were 11.1 AF ratio and 23° and 18° timing respectively. Even without an intercooler, the Kenne Bell 5 psi kit (5.5 psi peak) outpowers the '03 Cobra with 8.5 psi peak boost. The Kenne Bell 9 psi kit produces up to 96 more HP than the '03 Cobra.
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...ra_99-014v.htm

[Invictus]

VORTECH / KB !!!

[Drgnracin72]

twin turbo

[M.O.B.Fab]

thanks for the info...that KB kit is cheaper than i thought...i figured itd be like 7500....6800 isnt that bad...

[Drgnracin72]

MOB, for that price you could have hp twin 57mm turbos . maybe for about $500 more. and the power youll get out of those will be much more effieicent than the kb and make a lot more power