Engine Swapping Thread

OcOnnor220 · January 28th, 2007, 02:29 PM

Its probably the ultimate modification when you consider cost and what kind of a difference it makes in your Mustang, eventually when I have $7,000 or so to burn...since I've already dropped over $6,000 in my 2001 Mustang GT cosmetically...I'm looking to swap the engine and transmission with a drop out from another Mustang. Theres a lot of options: Obvious one being the 2003 Mach 1 Crate engine from Ford Racing which is probably the only one I can get new still, the 2003/2004 supercharged Cobra engine, another stock 4.6L 16V 01-04 GT engine or a pullout from a 2005/2006 GT.
I dont have a cherry picker or knowledge of offsetting so it'll have to be done by Ford but as far as external modifications go such as drive shafts, rear end gears and suspensions go, what would I have to worry about when dropping a new engine and tranny into my car? If I went with a Cobra motor and 6-speed tranny would I need a different transmission crossmember? Is it possible to drop an 05 GT engine in an 01 GT engine bay? Does anyone have an idea of what the labor cost would be for this? Thanks. Frames last forever, engines dont...I think this is on a lot of owner's minds.

StangAddiction · January 28th, 2007, 04:42 PM

You'd be better off spending that $7000 on the engine you have. $6K in cosmetics is rediculous btw, but for 7K you can had hundreds of hp to your engine. For 3500, my father added approx. 100 rwhp to his car, without a power adder. 7K could get you a good turbo kit or so an it'd be faster than any motor swap for the same price. A engine swap isn't worth it IMO.

But if you do do the swap, it will be a pain in the a**. The shop will probabaly charge you ridiculous money to do the swap. If you really want to have a mach one engine, just get mach one 4v heads and swap em out with the 2v. It's just as good, if not betetr considering all the money u'd save.

sonicblue · January 28th, 2007, 06:50 PM

dont have ford do it if you plan on doing a motor swap. take it to a reputable speed shop. and as far as putting 4v heads on ur motor its not as simple as that. you would be better off getting a complete mach motor. if it were me i would keep the motor you have and put a blower on it and do a little suspension work

autostang03gt · January 28th, 2007, 10:31 PM

7000= power adder for your motor

OcOnnor220 · January 29th, 2007, 06:01 AM

That $6000 includes a factory quality paint job, that itself usually costs $6000 alone...not to mention the new Ford body, wheels and seats.

OcOnnor220 · January 29th, 2007, 06:03 AM

And no moron should invest $7000 in the engine of a car like this thats only 6 years old. Restorations for 40 year old Mustangs...thats a different story.

sonicblue · January 29th, 2007, 06:18 AM

well with 7000 dollars and not doing the work yourself its going to be hard to do a different engine swap.thats why i said build with what you got and make it stronger and add a blower. my motor had 17k miles when i decided to build the shit out of it, and i dont regret it one bit.

superbeef1000 · January 29th, 2007, 09:20 AM

shit for that money you could get a forged shart block and supercharge it make mad power

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 11:11 PM

lol $6k on a one color paint job but spendin $7k on an engine is stupid loll i think you've joined the wrong forum

WAVEBYE · January 29th, 2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

lol $6k on a one color paint job but spendin $7k on an engine is stupid loll i think you've joined the wrong forum

A+

WAVEBYE · January 29th, 2007, 11:27 PM

con·tra·dict [kon-truh-dikt] –verb (used with object)
to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself.

Originally Posted by OcOnnor220

Its probably the ultimate modification when you consider cost and what kind of a difference it makes in your Mustang, eventually when I have $7,000 or so to burn...since I've already dropped over $6,000 in my 2001 Mustang GT cosmetically...I'm looking to swap the engine and transmission with a drop out from another Mustang. Theres a lot of options: Obvious one being the 2003 Mach 1 Crate engine from Ford Racing which is probably the only one I can get new still, the 2003/2004 supercharged Cobra engine, another stock 4.6L 16V 01-04 GT engine or a pullout from a 2005/2006 GT.

Originally Posted by OcOnnor220

And no moron should invest $7000 in the engine of a car like this thats only 6 years old. Restorations for 40 year old Mustangs...thats a different story.

OcOnnor220 · January 30th, 2007, 09:52 PM

You have a problem asshole?...Dont be a wiseass with me you little punk. I started this thread with the question of replacing my engine with another one, not rebuilding mine, retard. NOT investing $7000 in my motor, jackass. Spell CONTRADICT again dickhead, let me put this so you can understand and if you've got another problem my email is videnga@hotmail.com you can send that crap directly to me next time. I AM ASKING PEOPLE (NOT you) WHO KNOW ABOUT ENGINE SWAPPING WHAT EXACTLY ARE THINGS I COULD CONSIDER WHEN DOING IT. Understand? Dont be a freakin wiseass with me.

OcOnnor220 · January 30th, 2007, 10:03 PM

[quote="WAVEBYE"]con·tra·dict [kon-truh-dikt] –verb (used with object)
to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself.

Also, cock? I was'nt asking you. The other one came up with $7000 for some reason and it was his stupid idea to pour that into a 6 year old engine. Everything make sense now? Still feel smart? Spell CONTRADICT again, retard...Give everybody your expertise you're so freakin knowledgeable. Idiot.

OcOnnor220 · January 30th, 2007, 10:14 PM

[quote="WAVEBYE"]con·tra·dict [kon-truh-dikt] –verb (used with object)
to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself.

Redneck? One more question. Since you seem like one of those shirtless assugly BBQ'ing Dale Jr. buttsucking Nascar people who drop engines in their dragsters all the time..What would YOU do when replacing an engine and tranny in a stock 01 GT? What engine would YOU use? What kind of drive train work would YOU suggest when dropping in a more powerfull crate engine? Since you're such a freakin Know-It-All down there what would YOU recommend?

sonicblue · January 30th, 2007, 10:14 PM

im not even sure who you are pissed at. if its me i could really give a shit. i was just giving advice.and as far as being stupid for building a motor thats not even 6 years old thats your opinion, but i will be willing to bet it will walk all over your car. and as far as 7k being enough to do a engine and tranny swap without doing the work yourself it prolly wont happen. building with what you already got is almost always cheaper.

sonicblue · January 30th, 2007, 10:18 PM

i dont see why you are getting so bent out of shape man.no reason to start stereotyping people and pissing people off more than you already have

Invictus · January 30th, 2007, 10:18 PM

ROFL

dude just take it somewheres else.

BTW. my friend has a turboed civic hatch for sale that has one of those wings mounted to the top of the hatch, the body kits unpainted though. he's askin 7k lemme know if you're interested

whty98 · February 5th, 2007, 01:44 AM

WOW, this thread has so much BS. The guy has a simple question, not trying to be a douche, but everyone needs to lighten up.

I know a guy who got a great deal on a Mach 1 engine with only 100 miles before it was wrecked for >$3000. Great deal, made lots of power, and is relatively easy to do. Essentially, drop the K member with tranny, put the motor on the old tranny (it will handle the power t-45 or 3550), replace the clutch most likely, hook up the wiring (either re-use your old harness or get the mach 1 so you dont have to splice or lengthen any wires), and then reinstall the K member. Then get it tuned and you're good. You can do this yourself, if you have the garage and ingenuity, just rent what you don't have(cherry picker if you can't get a lift) or hopefully you have a friend or two,

The mach 1 motor doesn't make a much more power than a GT so upgrades suspension isn't necessary, but it'd make the ride better/stronger/reliable. Add some NOS or supercharger, and I think you're total would be resonable with a bad ass motor IMO. Good luck and lighten up...everyone

WAVEBYE · February 5th, 2007, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by OcOnnor220

Still feel smart? Spell CONTRADICT again, retard.

ok,i'll spell contradict again. rofl
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contradict

FYI i'm not claiming i know everything,but i know enough not to.... 1. spend $6000 on "cosmetic" mods and 2. the difference between spending $7000 on a stock motor and spending $7000 on a new motor. rofl

WAVEBYE · February 5th, 2007, 02:45 AM

well to further answer your question, you have to ask yourself many other questions...

1. what's the most amount of power i would ever want to make? 400rwhp,1000rwhp?
2.what kinda money do i want to spend? $2000, $30,000
3.what purpose do i want to use it for? street?,test 'n tune?,weekend bracket? all out NMRA/NMCA?

January 28th, 2007, 02:29 PM	#1
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	Engine Swapping Thread Its probably the ultimate modification when you consider cost and what kind of a difference it makes in your Mustang, eventually when I have $7,000 or so to burn...since I've already dropped over $6,000 in my 2001 Mustang GT cosmetically...I'm looking to swap the engine and transmission with a drop out from another Mustang. Theres a lot of options: Obvious one being the 2003 Mach 1 Crate engine from Ford Racing which is probably the only one I can get new still, the 2003/2004 supercharged Cobra engine, another stock 4.6L 16V 01-04 GT engine or a pullout from a 2005/2006 GT. I dont have a cherry picker or knowledge of offsetting so it'll have to be done by Ford but as far as external modifications go such as drive shafts, rear end gears and suspensions go, what would I have to worry about when dropping a new engine and tranny into my car? If I went with a Cobra motor and 6-speed tranny would I need a different transmission crossmember? Is it possible to drop an 05 GT engine in an 01 GT engine bay? Does anyone have an idea of what the labor cost would be for this? Thanks. Frames last forever, engines dont...I think this is on a lot of owner's minds.

January 28th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#3
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	dont have ford do it if you plan on doing a motor swap. take it to a reputable speed shop. and as far as putting 4v heads on ur motor its not as simple as that. you would be better off getting a complete mach motor. if it were me i would keep the motor you have and put a blower on it and do a little suspension work __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

January 29th, 2007, 06:18 AM	#7
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	well with 7000 dollars and not doing the work yourself its going to be hard to do a different engine swap.thats why i said build with what you got and make it stronger and add a blower. my motor had 17k miles when i decided to build the shit out of it, and i dont regret it one bit. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

January 29th, 2007, 09:20 AM	#8
superbeef1000 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: mesa , arizona Posts: 1,474 iTrader: 2 reviews	shit for that money you could get a forged shart block and supercharge it make mad power __________________ a bunch of stuff to make my car faster http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...e-member-1497/

January 29th, 2007, 11:11 PM	#9
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	lol $6k on a one color paint job but spendin $7k on an engine is stupid loll i think you've joined the wrong forum __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

January 28th, 2007, 04:42 PM	#2
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 986 iTrader: 0 reviews	You'd be better off spending that $7000 on the engine you have. $6K in cosmetics is rediculous btw, but for 7K you can had hundreds of hp to your engine. For 3500, my father added approx. 100 rwhp to his car, without a power adder. 7K could get you a good turbo kit or so an it'd be faster than any motor swap for the same price. A engine swap isn't worth it IMO. But if you do do the swap, it will be a pain in the a**. The shop will probabaly charge you ridiculous money to do the swap. If you really want to have a mach one engine, just get mach one 4v heads and swap em out with the 2v. It's just as good, if not betetr considering all the money u'd save.

January 28th, 2007, 10:31 PM	#4
autostang03gt Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern IL near SIU!!! Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 reviews	7000= power adder for your motor

January 29th, 2007, 06:01 AM	#5
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	That $6000 includes a factory quality paint job, that itself usually costs $6000 alone...not to mention the new Ford body, wheels and seats.

January 29th, 2007, 06:03 AM	#6
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	And no moron should invest $7000 in the engine of a car like this thats only 6 years old. Restorations for 40 year old Mustangs...thats a different story.

January 30th, 2007, 09:52 PM	#12
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	You have a problem asshole?...Dont be a wiseass with me you little punk. I started this thread with the question of replacing my engine with another one, not rebuilding mine, retard. NOT investing $7000 in my motor, jackass. Spell CONTRADICT again dickhead, let me put this so you can understand and if you've got another problem my email is videnga@hotmail.com you can send that crap directly to me next time. I AM ASKING PEOPLE (NOT you) WHO KNOW ABOUT ENGINE SWAPPING WHAT EXACTLY ARE THINGS I COULD CONSIDER WHEN DOING IT. Understand? Dont be a freakin wiseass with me.

January 30th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#13
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	[quote="WAVEBYE"]con·tra·dict [kon-truh-dikt] –verb (used with object) to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself. Also, cock? I was'nt asking you. The other one came up with $7000 for some reason and it was his stupid idea to pour that into a 6 year old engine. Everything make sense now? Still feel smart? Spell CONTRADICT again, retard...Give everybody your expertise you're so freakin knowledgeable. Idiot.

January 30th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#14
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	[quote="WAVEBYE"]con·tra·dict [kon-truh-dikt] –verb (used with object) to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself. Redneck? One more question. Since you seem like one of those shirtless assugly BBQ'ing Dale Jr. buttsucking Nascar people who drop engines in their dragsters all the time..What would YOU do when replacing an engine and tranny in a stock 01 GT? What engine would YOU use? What kind of drive train work would YOU suggest when dropping in a more powerfull crate engine? Since you're such a freakin Know-It-All down there what would YOU recommend?

January 30th, 2007, 10:18 PM	#16
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont see why you are getting so bent out of shape man.no reason to start stereotyping people and pissing people off more than you already have __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

January 30th, 2007, 10:18 PM	#17
Invictus Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,354 iTrader: 0 reviews	ROFL dude just take it somewheres else. BTW. my friend has a turboed civic hatch for sale that has one of those wings mounted to the top of the hatch, the body kits unpainted though. he's askin 7k lemme know if you're interested

February 5th, 2007, 01:44 AM	#18
whty98 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	WOW, this thread has so much BS. The guy has a simple question, not trying to be a douche, but everyone needs to lighten up. I know a guy who got a great deal on a Mach 1 engine with only 100 miles before it was wrecked for >$3000. Great deal, made lots of power, and is relatively easy to do. Essentially, drop the K member with tranny, put the motor on the old tranny (it will handle the power t-45 or 3550), replace the clutch most likely, hook up the wiring (either re-use your old harness or get the mach 1 so you dont have to splice or lengthen any wires), and then reinstall the K member. Then get it tuned and you're good. You can do this yourself, if you have the garage and ingenuity, just rent what you don't have(cherry picker if you can't get a lift) or hopefully you have a friend or two, The mach 1 motor doesn't make a much more power than a GT so upgrades suspension isn't necessary, but it'd make the ride better/stronger/reliable. Add some NOS or supercharger, and I think you're total would be resonable with a bad ass motor IMO. Good luck and lighten up...everyone

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February 5th, 2007, 02:45 AM	#20
WAVEBYE Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mustang GT Twin Turbo 10.43 @ 139mph Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southaven,MS Posts: 1,471 iTrader: 0 reviews	well to further answer your question, you have to ask yourself many other questions... 1. what's the most amount of power i would ever want to make? 400rwhp,1000rwhp? 2.what kinda money do i want to spend? $2000, $30,000 3.what purpose do i want to use it for? street?,test 'n tune?,weekend bracket? all out NMRA/NMCA? __________________ Nobody gonna take my car Im gonna race it to the ground Nobody gonna beat my car Its gonna break the speed of sound Oooh its a killing machine Its got everything Like a driving power big fat tires And everything - Deep Purple

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