[momogt]

Originally Posted by casper gt to do it right, yes. you wouln't know what pistons you have until you take the trans apart & the aluminum ones are junk, you'll need steel one's from Ford & the accumulator spring's that don't get replaced in the kit should be replaced with Ford parts. can you just put the kit in as-is? shure, I just like to do stuff 110% so I don't have to do it again. that & just the amount of work involved is why I said I wouldn't even talk to someone about doing theirs for under 200.

give me a link to get those parts

[casper gt]

these are the Ford part #'s for the parts I have before I get started.
F7AZ-7F251-AA, piston
F7AZ-7H292-AB, piston
EOAZ-7F285-A, spring
F8AZ-7G276-BA, ele. connector for solinoids
F6AZ-7A098-A, OEM filter

you will have to order most if not all those parts from your local Ford dealer.
good luck.

[Scott2001GT]

sorry I thought you said you were going with a trans-go, which one did you get? as to the price tag, seeing as most people with an opinion have never done one, let me ask you, how can you do the job for $100.00 when the accumulator piston's & spring's you'll need to buy from ford that no-one seem's to know about or mention will cost you 50.00 or so? their not replacing them, that's how. make's you wonder what else their not doing.

its the valve body with the shift kit on it....thats 250 bucks but the install is 100

[casper gt]

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT its the valve body with the shift kit on it....thats 250 bucks but the install is 100

well your not talking about a shift kit install then, your talking about a valve body swap. you can do that in your driveway in 45 min. a shiftkit is much, much more involved.

[momogt]

Originally Posted by casper gt well your not talking about a shift kit install then, your talking about a valve body swap. you can do that in your driveway in 45 min. a shiftkit is much, much more involved.

were,s a good place to get a valve that already has the shift kit install because if i could do that i will send the trans -go back and i dont want a j-mod

[casper gt]

Originally Posted by momogt were,s a good place to get a valve that already has the shift kit install because if i could do that i will send the trans -go back and i dont want a j-mod

give Alan @ DirtyDog Performance (Powered by CubeCart) a call, he will be able to fix you right up if you'd rather go that route (ie. valve body vs. shift-kit).

[momogt]

Originally Posted by casper gt give Alan @ DirtyDog Performance (Powered by CubeCart) a call, he will be able to fix you right up if you'd rather go that route (ie. valve body vs. shift-kit).

thanks i just shot him a email i see he does tq converters also i want one good for street/strip use i was thinking of a 3000 stall will that be good

[casper gt]

Originally Posted by momogt thanks i just shot him a email i see he does tq converters also i want one good for street/strip use i was thinking of a 3000 stall will that be good

I'd go a little higher (3500 min) but talk with Alan about your need's, his customer service is second to none, he'll listen to your need's & help you out any way he can with your combo. as a bonus he's also a racer so he know's what work's in the real world, I think you'll be very satisfied.

[millertimeman501]

Originally Posted by casper gt these are the Ford part #'s for the parts I have before I get started. F7AZ-7F251-AA, piston F7AZ-7H292-AB, piston EOAZ-7F285-A, spring F8AZ-7G276-BA, ele. connector for solinoids F6AZ-7A098-A, OEM filter you will have to order most if not all those parts from your local Ford dealer. good luck.

What would I need in the way of Ford parts?

[ajm]

Originally Posted by millertimeman501 What would I need in the way of Ford parts?

I dont quite get what youre asking but if youre asking what you need as far as ford/motorcraft/oem parts go he listed them...If your asking about aftermarket instead of oem dont even waste your time. Oem or nothing for those parts, unless its the aftermarket 3-4 accumulator piston that comes with the fairbanks kit which is a totally different ball game. Even if an aftermarket company did make them readily available you wouldnt save but a couple of bucks if that.

If I remember right the pistons are about 14 a piece, the springs cant be more than 10, and the other parts and very high dollar either.

[millertimeman501]

What I am asking is I would like a shift kit for my 05 GT with an auto in it. I have a Roush SC on it & I think it would be beneficial to have it shift a little quicker. Right now it is red linine before it shifts when I'm hammering on it. Thanks for the help ajm.

[ajm]

Oh ok i see what youre saying. A shift kit is always a good investment for an auto. Not only does it allow for quicker shifting it will support some weak features in the valve body.

For example. Some people say no no no dont get a shift kit just buy a tuner and adjust the shift pressure. All the tuner is doing is adjusting the shift pressure. The shift kit will support the weak features such as worn valves etc, make the trans last longer, and give you firmer shifts. Not many people seem to realize this though.


As for what shift kit. Ive tried fairbanks, transgo, and b&m. The b&m is cheap and you get cheap feeling shifts with it. The transgo and fairbanks are pretty similar although I find the fairbanks to be *slightly* better. Reason being is not only does it come with the "shift kit" it comes with a module you can spice into your trans harness to up the shift pressure like a tuner would if the shift kit its self isnt enough. Also I noticed with the fairbanks when crusing around town etc the shifts are still fairly soft/comfortable but fast, but once I get on it they are VERY FIRM and fast. Where as with the transgo and b&m when I would just be cruising around in town, or through a parking lot when id go from 1-2 it would have the same firmness as the fairbanks but it kept that same firmess even at wot which wasnt near what the fairbanks was. If that makes any sense?

[330CubeGt]

Aint Labor cost about $100 an hour?

[millertimeman501]

Originally Posted by ajm Oh ok i see what youre saying. A shift kit is always a good investment for an auto. Not only does it allow for quicker shifting it will support some weak features in the valve body. For example. Some people say no no no dont get a shift kit just buy a tuner and adjust the shift pressure. All the tuner is doing is adjusting the shift pressure. The shift kit will support the weak features such as worn valves etc, make the trans last longer, and give you firmer shifts. Not many people seem to realize this though. As for what shift kit. Ive tried fairbanks, transgo, and b&m. The b&m is cheap and you get cheap feeling shifts with it. The transgo and fairbanks are pretty similar although I find the fairbanks to be *slightly* better. Reason being is not only does it come with the "shift kit" it comes with a module you can spice into your trans harness to up the shift pressure like a tuner would if the shift kit its self isnt enough. Also I noticed with the fairbanks when crusing around town etc the shifts are still fairly soft/comfortable but fast, but once I get on it they are VERY FIRM and fast. Where as with the transgo and b&m when I would just be cruising around in town, or through a parking lot when id go from 1-2 it would have the same firmness as the fairbanks but it kept that same firmess even at wot which wasnt near what the fairbanks was. If that makes any sense?

Thanks & YES IT MAKES SENSE. I only have 13,660 miles on this car. What can I expect to pay to have it installed?

[ajm]

Do it yourself. Takes nothing but a few qts of fluid, a filter, and an hour max. On the other hand if you really want to have someone do it...which I cant complain...people like that are the reason I make a living lol I donno what itll cost you. A lot of automotive costs have to due with location. One guy from ca may get charged 300, when one guy from me might get charged 100. It just varys shop to shop, location to location, and such.

[millertimeman501]

Originally Posted by ajm Do it yourself. Takes nothing but a few qts of fluid, a filter, and an hour max. On the other hand if you really want to have someone do it...which I cant complain...people like that are the reason I make a living lol I donno what itll cost you. A lot of automotive costs have to due with location. One guy from ca may get charged 300, when one guy from me might get charged 100. It just varys shop to shop, location to location, and such.

COOL! I can handle that at home. Where do I get the kit? (Fairbanks) Can you give me more info on, say step by step install? tHANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP. m

[ajm]

ford-aode.com has the kit. As for how to install it, it comes with very detailed and straight forward directions.

[ajm]

Originally Posted by 330CubeGt Aint Labor cost about $100 an hour?

ehhh yes and no. still once again location dependent.

Two major body shops/production shops and a big mercedes...not your everday little bs independent shops I was at in TX for awhile were charging 80/hr body and ~$20 more on the hour for mechanical such as radiators, suspension,condensors, rear end rebuilds, rear end repacements etc, the mercedes shop/dealership I was at was charging $150/hr mechanical (not even close to comparable at the volvo dealership I spent some time at where I am now)

Im now in TN. Body labor rate is $32-38 an hour and mechanical is about 80-100+ if lucky. 80 being your independent bs, 90-100 being ford,gm, etc, 100+ being your bmw, saab, mercedes,etc.

Just an example. As to how its location dependent. Look up on here how many people as how much itll cost for them to get cams installed. One guy says "his mechanic" (i guess he owns "his mechanic"?) charges $400 when the next guy will say a shop quoted him $1100 and theyll be 5-6 states away from each other.

Shift kits and such stuff are also done on a simple basis such as "ok $100 for your shift kit no matter what car" compared to other things that can be calculated more efficiently on flatrate.