[liljojo4711]

can i run a lightning motor with an auto? what is the extra stuff involved with a 4.6 2v to a 5.4 4v?

[liljojo4711]

Originally Posted by 330CubeGt That's Funny Mine Was Not Expensive,But i also Run a Eaton... What kinda money you looking to spend anyways???

im looking to spend the least amount of money really to do a basic 5.4 swap

[casper gt]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 can i run a lightning motor with an auto? what is the extra stuff involved with a 4.6 2v to a 5.4 4v?

why would you think there'd be a problem with putting a 5.4 in an auto car? our auto's are EXTREMELY STRONG, even with a stock 4r70w (which is the tran's in these car's stock) a mild to moderate 5.4 can't come close to hurting it.

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 can i run a lightning motor with an auto? what is the extra stuff involved with a 4.6 2v to a 5.4 4v?

I did a Auto Swap because i know my T-45 would have broke the first week

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 im looking to spend the least amount of money really to do a basic 5.4 swap

That can be done cheap if you want to do a N/A Motor

[liljojo4711]

ok so what is different between 2v and 4v swap? y doesnt everyone do it?

[casper gt]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 ok so what is different between 2v and 4v swap? y doesnt everyone do it?

add's a little to the cost & complexity (not a lot but it all ads up) & most people that ask about this are building mostly street car's & I think it comes down to fun per $$ for most guy's in the end. don't let any one fool you or blow smoke up you ass, 500+ d/d are no fun once you start living with them for 99 % of us.

[liljojo4711]

im just going to start with a complete motor, keep it stock and add stage 3 cams and be done with it. if i want to forge it later i can but im not lookin for more than 350hp and 400tq so its all good.

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by SilverStang03 what are you doing for an ecu quiksilver?

the stock ecu works fine. the stock tune will even get it running well enough to drive to a shop.

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 what is involved thats extra going from a 4.6 2v to a 5.4 4v?

its just an issue of size. Heres my feeling on the matter. if you are willing to spend the time, money, and effort and doing a 5.4 2V swap then why wouldnt you be willing to do the 5.4 4V swap. you will NEVER find a 2V head that will flow like a 4V head. NEVER! now i already know some 2v fanboy is gonna jump up and blabber on about the TFS heads, but even ported you wont see the kind of power that youll see with a 4v head.

the 4V swap really isnt much more difficult. you are already pulling your entire motor for a new one. its not as if you have the complication of changing your heads only. the only difference is that you may need to space the K-member with a set of MM k member spacers for less than 100$ to gain another 1/2" of space. its also a bit wider of a motor resulting in the inability to remove your valve cover with the motor in the bay, kind of a hassle when doing cams and such, but a hassle worth the extra performance.

PM me for more info. ill get back to you faster. and PLEASE look up my thread. every question has already been answered there. its only a few weeks old and all the info is very fresh.

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 im just going to start with a complete motor, keep it stock and add stage 3 cams and be done with it. if i want to forge it later i can but im not lookin for more than 350hp and 400tq so its all good.

cheapest way is to get a running complete motor. if you want a 4V get it from a navi. a 2V, theres tons of sources easiest being the ford trucks. no matter which way you decide to go you MUST get a new intake. for the 2V swap the HPS works well. for the 4V the sullivan works. DO NOT get adapter plates or run the truck intake.

[liljojo4711]

ok man thanks for the advice. u know the title of ur thread u want me to look at? i will have to buy new heads...

[sxynerd]

I C U lil-jo! LOL

[330CubeGt]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 ok man thanks for the advice. u know the title of ur thread u want me to look at? i will have to buy new heads...

Click on his name click view profile and click view started threads it will be in there .

[liljojo4711]

Originally Posted by sxynerd I C U lil-jo! LOL

kinda creepy...

[liljojo4711]

complete 5.4 2v motor
hps intake
solid motor mounts
bbk 78mm tb/plenum combo
widend h-pipe

anything else that is essential for the swap? what kind of gain on 260hp and 350tq will i see if i get my stang pi heads ported?

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 ok man thanks for the advice.

rep appreciated...

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 u know the title of ur thread u want me to look at? i will have to buy new heads...

5.4 Swap - NEED INFO
your current heads will work on a modular 5.4 block. the 2v motors have the same heads. only difference is the deck height.

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 complete 5.4 2v motor hps intake solid motor mounts bbk 78mm tb/plenum combo widend h-pipe anything else that is essential for the swap? what kind of gain on 260hp and 350tq will i see if i get my stang pi heads ported?

this is a question i asked when i first considered the 2V swap. shortly there after i investigated the cost of a descent port job, slapped myself in the face for being such an idiot, and decided to go 4V.

if you are even considering porting your 2v heads you should be getting a 4v motor. there isnt a port job in all the world that will flow like a stock 4v. the money you thought you might be saving by doing a 2v could be put toward a 4v instead. and believe me the 4v swap CAN be done for the same cost as the 2v swap. it IS NOT difficult to do.

tell me what you want from all of this. what kind of power do you want to make is the long run? what are your future plans for the car? how much $$$ do you have to spend on this?

[quiksilver225]

PM me so i can give you some phone numbers and contact info for people who REALLY know this swap inside and out. there are a few people who would be more than willing to talk with you about it that have lots of info and personal experience they could share with you.

[liljojo4711]

im not looking for more than 350-400hp and 400-450tq n/a when its all said and done. i need reliability and driveability. not looking for fi or nitrous. want to get out as cheap as possible to have a 5.4 .

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by liljojo4711 im not looking for more than 350-400hp and 400-450tq n/a when its all said and done. i need reliability and driveability. not looking for fi or nitrous. want to get out as cheap as possible to have a 5.4 .

youll have to spend thousands to make 400rwhp n/a on a 2v motor. and it wouldnt be practical to do that. if you can stand to spend $3,000 total on the swap it is more than possible to do the 4v. im gonna PM you right now.

[liljojo4711]

i can swing $3000 by the time im ready to do everything. what did u have in mind? whats the break down for parts u are getting together since u have already figured most of it out .

[SilverStang03]

[QUOTE=quiksilver225;2177501]the stock ecu works fine. the stock tune will even get it running well enough to drive to a shop.
doing cams and such, but a hassle worth the extra performance.QUOTE]

whoa....hold up dude. your using a stock gt ecu? or are you doing a stock 5.4 4v ecu, cuz i know a gt computer will work with a 4v, but its not meant to, and you wont get the most out of it.