5spd vs automatic question

Ke^in · July 9th, 2009, 07:39 AM

I learn to drive in my parents 1988 VW Jetta. It was automatic. Then I drove my dad's Audi 90, which was also automatic. My first actual car I bought myself when I was 18 was a 1981 VW diesel Rabbit 4spd. It was in good condition, but it wasn't fast by no means. And in the winter, It had a hard time starting because of the diesel. I had this heater thing put into the motor with a switch installed. Anyhow, it was slow, but I could put $8 in gas and it would last me two weeks.

I had that for 2 years. Actually most all of my cars I've owned since then have been MTX. I just prefer them. Now, when I get older and It starts to HURT to shift all the time, maybe I will go auto.

But until then, I love the manual. It makes me more aware of how fast I am going, and what I am doing.

Plus, chicks are more impressed with they see a stick in the middle.

2002 BLK GT · July 11th, 2009, 05:45 PM

Manual 5.5 1/4 mile 13.9
Auto 5.6 1/4 mile 14.0

Most of them do that but sometimes it could be different...

quiksilver225 · July 11th, 2009, 06:04 PM

awesome source for this kind of info:
0-60 and 1/4 mile times for Factory Stock Vehicles

most of the times seem to be about a tenth slow, but its a great web page. it doesnt answer your question, but i thought id post it up anyways.

99MustangT · July 14th, 2009, 07:09 PM

I have seen that 0-60 and 1/4 mile times website before but thanks for the thought. I think most of those times are in manual cars. I have never found anything that said what the 5spd vs automatic times were in the same car. Maybe they are very close and it is just the feeling of the 5spd that makes it seem faster.

2002 BLK GT · July 14th, 2009, 08:26 PM

Times don't have a big difference but automatic gts loose alot of hp to the wheels compared with a 5spd, and if you race one from a dig and they launch good they can let you too far....

330CubeGt · July 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM

Auto FTW

Scott2001GT · July 14th, 2009, 11:46 PM

What 330CubeGT said

209STANG · July 15th, 2009, 01:43 AM

Nah auto FTL I prefer 100x a manual than a auto + takes more skill versus a built auto that u just gota step on it sure it can be faster but not as fun imo but i juss don't c the challenge in a auto

Scott2001GT · July 15th, 2009, 01:50 AM

Nah auto FTL I prefer 100x a manual than a auto + takes more skill versus a built auto that u just gota step on it sure it can be faster but not as fun imo but i juss don't c the challenge in a auto

sounds like someone is trying to make himself feel better for gettin ran by a auto lol

Ke^in · July 15th, 2009, 08:21 AM

Stock for stock a manual is faster. If an auto gets different gears etc, it catches up, but then so does the manual. A auto will usually win in a race with someone that is driving a manual poorly, but when you have someone that knows what they are doing, the manual will take em. Having said that, SUPER fast cars, 10s and below would probably do better with an auto because with those speeds, you hardly have time to shift. As far as fun factor goes, manual all the way. I have a younger acquaintance that has a auto GT that revs and pretends like it's a manual.. I always make fun of him for it. He's one of the guys that claim "I can take you because we have the same car, but my tranny can shift faster than you can!" His daddy bought him that car for graduation too. He has no clue about it. When I first met him he was leaving traction control on when he launched because he claimed it gave him better traction on the launch.... "That's what it's for man!"

Plus females are more impressed with manuals, and the stick reminds them of peni. Some even ask if they can touch it.

Then they ask if they can touch the shifter too.

Scott2001GT · July 15th, 2009, 02:35 PM

there is one way to get a manual to shift faster...a short throw and well the person in away.

Autos have shift kits, tuners, etc. Much more tunable and track reliable.

and the girls comment. They like looks and somewhat speed. Shit less what shifts the car.

Rolls yes the manual will get the jump. The only thing that hurts the auto in stock form for the track in the launch. You cant launch as hard and get the 60ft time. a stall and shift kit take care of that.

99MustangT · July 15th, 2009, 05:33 PM

Well this car is my summer car and I don't really ever plan on bringing it to the track too much so maybe I will wait until my motor or tranny goes and swap in a newer engine and 5spd tranny so it will be more fun on the streets. Or upgrade to a terminator cobra!

RALVAREZ26 · July 15th, 2009, 06:54 PM

i ran a 14.2 w/ just an o/r x and cai and sct chip in my auto last year and a buddy with o/r x and cai ran 14.3 5spd both on street tires. i'm pretty sure i could of gotten a better time in his car than he did.

Yellow02GTauto · July 15th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

there is one way to get a manual to shift faster...a short throw and well the person in away.

Autos have shift kits, tuners, etc. Much more tunable and track reliable.

and the girls comment. They like looks and somewhat speed. Shit less what shifts the car.

Rolls yes the manual will get the jump. The only thing that hurts the auto in stock form for the track in the launch. You cant launch as hard and get the 60ft time. a stall and shift kit take care of that.

Um......you build an auto right and you will always get the power to the ground......I cut 1.56 60's all day with a 17 in rim and MT DR's...4000 stall, shift kit, and tranny cooler.....with 410's.....the stock auto 1st thru Drive can handle 700 hp from the factory....the O/D is the weak link but thats why you just hit the O/D button to off and have fun.........when built right the auto is a blast to drive......

"ED"

July 9th, 2009, 07:39 AM	#21
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mid-Ohio Valley Posts: 2,446	I learn to drive in my parents 1988 VW Jetta. It was automatic. Then I drove my dad's Audi 90, which was also automatic. My first actual car I bought myself when I was 18 was a 1981 VW diesel Rabbit 4spd. It was in good condition, but it wasn't fast by no means. And in the winter, It had a hard time starting because of the diesel. I had this heater thing put into the motor with a switch installed. Anyhow, it was slow, but I could put $8 in gas and it would last me two weeks. I had that for 2 years. Actually most all of my cars I've owned since then have been MTX. I just prefer them. Now, when I get older and It starts to HURT to shift all the time, maybe I will go auto. But until then, I love the manual. It makes me more aware of how fast I am going, and what I am doing. Plus, chicks are more impressed with they see a stick in the middle. __________________ I've been bitten by radio-active breasts!

July 11th, 2009, 05:45 PM	#22
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 4.6L Coupe' 5spd *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 1,937	Manual 5.5 1/4 mile 13.9 Auto 5.6 1/4 mile 14.0 Most of them do that but sometimes it could be different... __________________ Modded!, Modded Mustang

July 11th, 2009, 06:04 PM	#23
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,243	awesome source for this kind of info: 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for Factory Stock Vehicles most of the times seem to be about a tenth slow, but its a great web page. it doesnt answer your question, but i thought id post it up anyways. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

July 14th, 2009, 07:09 PM	#24
99MustangT Regular 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MN Posts: 172	I have seen that 0-60 and 1/4 mile times website before but thanks for the thought. I think most of those times are in manual cars. I have never found anything that said what the 5spd vs automatic times were in the same car. Maybe they are very close and it is just the feeling of the 5spd that makes it seem faster. __________________

July 14th, 2009, 08:26 PM	#25
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 4.6L Coupe' 5spd *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 1,937	Times don't have a big difference but automatic gts loose alot of hp to the wheels compared with a 5spd, and if you race one from a dig and they launch good they can let you too far.... __________________ Modded!, Modded Mustang

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July 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM	#26
330CubeGt MM Fanatic 1998 Mustang GT 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,412	Auto FTW __________________ If you can't remove a 1 Pound, find 16 places to remove 1 Ounce

July 14th, 2009, 11:46 PM	#27
Scott2001GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,595	What 330CubeGT said __________________ Silver Vehicle Club Member #7 http://www.loproracecars.com/ Just a lil 2v Mustang with a Automatic

July 15th, 2009, 01:43 AM	#28
209STANG Regular 03 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: nor cal Posts: 170	Nah auto FTL I prefer 100x a manual than a auto + takes more skill versus a built auto that u just gota step on it sure it can be faster but not as fun imo but i juss don't c the challenge in a auto

July 15th, 2009, 08:21 AM	#30
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ ☣ ☢ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mid-Ohio Valley Posts: 2,446	Stock for stock a manual is faster. If an auto gets different gears etc, it catches up, but then so does the manual. A auto will usually win in a race with someone that is driving a manual poorly, but when you have someone that knows what they are doing, the manual will take em. Having said that, SUPER fast cars, 10s and below would probably do better with an auto because with those speeds, you hardly have time to shift. As far as fun factor goes, manual all the way. I have a younger acquaintance that has a auto GT that revs and pretends like it's a manual.. I always make fun of him for it. He's one of the guys that claim "I can take you because we have the same car, but my tranny can shift faster than you can!" His daddy bought him that car for graduation too. He has no clue about it. When I first met him he was leaving traction control on when he launched because he claimed it gave him better traction on the launch.... "That's what it's for man!" Plus females are more impressed with manuals, and the stick reminds them of peni. Some even ask if they can touch it. Then they ask if they can touch the shifter too. __________________ I've been bitten by radio-active breasts! Last edited by Ke^in : July 15th, 2009 at 08:24 AM.

July 15th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#31
Scott2001GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,595	there is one way to get a manual to shift faster...a short throw and well the person in away. Autos have shift kits, tuners, etc. Much more tunable and track reliable. and the girls comment. They like looks and somewhat speed. Shit less what shifts the car. Rolls yes the manual will get the jump. The only thing that hurts the auto in stock form for the track in the launch. You cant launch as hard and get the 60ft time. a stall and shift kit take care of that. __________________ Silver Vehicle Club Member #7 http://www.loproracecars.com/ Just a lil 2v Mustang with a Automatic

July 15th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#32
99MustangT Regular 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MN Posts: 172	Well this car is my summer car and I don't really ever plan on bringing it to the track too much so maybe I will wait until my motor or tranny goes and swap in a newer engine and 5spd tranny so it will be more fun on the streets. Or upgrade to a terminator cobra! __________________

July 15th, 2009, 06:54 PM	#33
RALVAREZ26 Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DALLAS Posts: 1,033	i ran a 14.2 w/ just an o/r x and cai and sct chip in my auto last year and a buddy with o/r x and cai ran 14.3 5spd both on street tires. i'm pretty sure i could of gotten a better time in his car than he did. __________________ http://smokinperformance.com '00 GT cai, mac long tube headers w/ bassani o/r x-pipe w/flowmaster dumped, accell coil, 75mm bbk throttle body, trickflow plenum, bbk pullies, sct chip, 4:10's on 555r

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