opinions and other peoples setups??

Black Five 0h · July 30th, 2009, 07:50 PM

i want 350 hp from my car what are some ways to do it, looking to stay naturally aspirated right now i have full exhaust bbk headers i believe? bbk catted x pipe with flowmaster mufflers, 373's, and cai. whats next??

quiksilver225 · July 30th, 2009, 07:53 PM

the bbk headers are stamped on the top of the driver side manifold. you can look down and see it with a flashlight.

spray is cheapest method.

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

the bbk headers are stamped on the top of the driver side manifold. you can look down and see it with a flashlight.

spray is cheapest method.

spray is not N/A....

Trickflow heads and stage 2 cams with all the bolt ons should or willl get you damn closeto 350 n/a on your 2v

quiksilver225 · July 31st, 2009, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

spray is not N/A....

Trickflow heads and stage 2 cams with all the bolt ons should or willl get you damn closeto 350 n/a on your 2v

...expensive

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 02:47 AM

but N/A like he said

quiksilver225 · July 31st, 2009, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

but N/A like he said

hmmm... tfs heads r nice, but cost 2k. and cams are great, but seem silly on a 2V...

O YA! im going there.... do the 5.4 swap! u can get a motor for less than a grand, even a 4V. with the right intake you'll be spinning so much tire that u might have to go back to the stock gear set.

just throwing it out there.

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 02:54 AM

stay 2v and do the heads and cams. What Quick DIDN'T mention is the swap is not all that simple. 4v engines have more wait with 2 more cams and bigger heads tohold the valvetrain.

idk how a 2v cams is "silly"

quiksilver225 · July 31st, 2009, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

stay 2v and do the heads and cams. What Quick DIDN'T mention is the swap is not all that simple. 4v engines have more wait with 2 more cams and bigger heads tohold the valvetrain.

idk how a 2v cams is "silly"

the weight difference is almost overcome with a tubular k-member and control arms. 4v heads beat the 2v heads every time. swap isnt much more difficult than swapping in another 4.6. a 2v 5.4 is exactly like swapping in another 4.6. only major issue with either swap is the intake manifold, but nowadays each swap has intake options available specially designed for the mustang swap. it really isnt a bad deal.

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 03:15 AM

umm Kenne bell made more hp for a 2v than a 4v...with a 2.6L. You should talk to them

330CubeGt · July 31st, 2009, 03:18 AM

5.4 with H/C/I

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by 330CubeGt

5.4 with H/C/I

may scoot some lol

jivepepper · July 31st, 2009, 03:46 AM

Stay 4.6 I like how they rev higher. I wouldn't consider a 5.4 unless it was 4v.

Scott2001GT · July 31st, 2009, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

Stay 4.6 I like how the rev higher. I wouldn't consider a 5.4 unless it was 4v.

fucking thank you Jive! talk some sence into QuickSilver

quiksilver225 · July 31st, 2009, 04:09 AM

sense?... im doing a 4v 5.4 swap.

Black Five 0h · July 31st, 2009, 06:10 AM

i dont want to put a different motor in the car. im talking what can i do to my 4.6 to make it to 350, what kind of numbers can these heads make?

Eagle2000GT · July 31st, 2009, 09:04 AM

If your talking 350 rwhp a lot. That's a completely rebuilt motor with high compression pistons. Most n/a builds can't get there. If your talking 350 hp (crank) its a little easier. That's approximately 308 rwhp. But I suspect you will spend much more for the heads, cams, springs, intake, etc. than you would for an entry level supercharger which will get you 350 rwhp.

ForestGRN_Ghost · July 31st, 2009, 12:30 PM

why dont you do your drivetrain and suspension. and put your current power to the ground better..

SilverStang03 · July 31st, 2009, 12:38 PM

i would do a supercharger. more potential for power.......and you will prob spend less than n/a. just my opinion.

quiksilver225 · July 31st, 2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by SilverStang03

i would do a supercharger. more potential for power.......and you will prob spend less than n/a. just my opinion.

this is true. a FI setup or a nitrous car are the easiest cheapest ways to get there. thats why i suggested the 5.4. originally it was just a fun thought for me, but then when u start looking at numbers(prices of parts and power) you start to realize that it is a very real option. trust me when i tell you that it is not a difficult swap in the least bit. if people can take a ls1 and drop it into a mazda miata then you can certainly put another ford motor from the very same motor family into your mustang... but if this isnt a route you want to take and you have absolutely no interest in FI or nitrous then start looking at new heads(preferably the tfs heads), cams, a better intake, and even a built short block.

SilverStang03 · July 31st, 2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

this is true. a FI setup or a nitrous car are the easiest cheapest ways to get there. thats why i suggested the 5.4. originally it was just a fun thought for me, but then when u start looking at numbers(prices of parts and power) you start to realize that it is a very real option. trust me when i tell you that it is not a difficult swap in the least bit. if people can take a ls1 and drop it into a mazda miata then you can certainly put another ford motor from the very same motor family into your mustang... but if this isnt a route you want to take and you have absolutely no interest in FI or nitrous then start looking at new heads(preferably the tfs heads), cams, a better intake, and even a built short block.

agreed. the only way to make good power n/a is with a new bore size. the 5.4 is definitely a good proven swap. great torque too

July 30th, 2009, 07:50 PM	#1
Black Five 0h Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Cant wait to find out Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 567 iTrader: 1 reviews	opinions and other peoples setups?? i want 350 hp from my car what are some ways to do it, looking to stay naturally aspirated right now i have full exhaust bbk headers i believe? bbk catted x pipe with flowmaster mufflers, 373's, and cai. whats next?? __________________ 02 Mustang GT "We build it up, run it hard, we know whats breaking and we enjoy it breaking, we dump money into it, we re-build it stronger, run it harder in anticipation of it breaking again. We are sick individuals."

July 30th, 2009, 07:53 PM	#2
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	the bbk headers are stamped on the top of the driver side manifold. you can look down and see it with a flashlight. spray is cheapest method. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

July 31st, 2009, 02:47 AM	#5
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	but N/A like he said __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

July 31st, 2009, 02:54 AM	#7
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	stay 2v and do the heads and cams. What Quick DIDN'T mention is the swap is not all that simple. 4v engines have more wait with 2 more cams and bigger heads tohold the valvetrain. idk how a 2v cams is "silly" __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

July 31st, 2009, 03:15 AM	#9
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	umm Kenne bell made more hp for a 2v than a 4v...with a 2.6L. You should talk to them __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

July 31st, 2009, 03:18 AM	#10
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July 31st, 2009, 03:46 AM	#12
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	Stay 4.6 I like how they rev higher. I wouldn't consider a 5.4 unless it was 4v. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S Last edited by jivepepper; July 31st, 2009 at 03:49 AM.

July 31st, 2009, 04:09 AM	#14
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	sense?... im doing a 4v 5.4 swap. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

July 31st, 2009, 06:10 AM	#15
Black Five 0h Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Cant wait to find out Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 567 iTrader: 1 reviews	i dont want to put a different motor in the car. im talking what can i do to my 4.6 to make it to 350, what kind of numbers can these heads make? __________________ 02 Mustang GT "We build it up, run it hard, we know whats breaking and we enjoy it breaking, we dump money into it, we re-build it stronger, run it harder in anticipation of it breaking again. We are sick individuals."

July 31st, 2009, 09:04 AM	#16
Eagle2000GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 5,311 iTrader: 1 reviews	If your talking 350 rwhp a lot. That's a completely rebuilt motor with high compression pistons. Most n/a builds can't get there. If your talking 350 hp (crank) its a little easier. That's approximately 308 rwhp. But I suspect you will spend much more for the heads, cams, springs, intake, etc. than you would for an entry level supercharger which will get you 350 rwhp. __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

July 31st, 2009, 12:30 PM	#17
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 992 iTrader: 0 reviews	why dont you do your drivetrain and suspension. and put your current power to the ground better.. __________________

July 31st, 2009, 12:38 PM	#18
SilverStang03 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang Gt Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Barrington RI Posts: 1,292 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would do a supercharger. more potential for power.......and you will prob spend less than n/a. just my opinion. __________________

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