My build plan!

4.10GT · September 22nd, 2009, 07:23 PM

So guys ever senice this spray ive been itching for power. So its about to go down

How does a MMR 600 shortblock with new heads cams and a borezilla kennebell sound? any input on what brands i should go with. ive researced i just want your guy's input this is my first build. im also going with a 4.10 gear ratio and 31 spline rear-end. and leaving exterior completely stock. i like haveing a sleeper.

GTermi · September 22nd, 2009, 07:33 PM

Better look for a new tranny (TKO?), suspension (upper and lower control arms,Shocks and struts, springs) and definently look into some bolt ons. 600 HP is no good if you cant put it to the groud.

4.10GT · September 22nd, 2009, 07:47 PM

how do you think a t-56 would handle the power? also im going full suspension and full bolt-ons of course! but do you guys think this build would be worth the money?

4.10GT · September 22nd, 2009, 07:53 PM

YouTube - Vortech 02 Mustang GT Dyno & Incar Runs

actually i just found a vid close to what i want.

GTermi · September 22nd, 2009, 07:53 PM

Suspension might not be as cool as buying a supercharger, but what i learned was that the car is built from the back to the front. Suspension is where it truly counts. What size shot you running too? I'm running a 150 on a conservative tune and putting down some sick numbers. Youll also want gears and tires. Nittos, Hoosiers or Mickey T's drag radials. A 6-speed can also handle up to ~600 HP supposidly. Thats my two cents. I love my setup, but its what you are looking for that matters.

ModMustang97GT · September 22nd, 2009, 07:55 PM

a t-56 should handle it fine. They are generally good up to that much power without any mods. Higher and I think you would need to double check.

Whether the build is worth the money is your call. Personally, spending 10k on my car, to get 600 hp would be worth it. The car would be faster than anything you meet save some super cars, and it would not have cost you anywhere near that much.

If performance is your goal, its worth it.

GTermi · September 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM

Is this going to be a track car or street car?

4.10GT · September 23rd, 2009, 01:50 PM

im going to drive it on the street and track. also i have a 100 shot on it right now.

wishIhada5.0 · September 23rd, 2009, 01:58 PM

Ok so let me get this straight...you wanna do an MMR 600 with a KB 2.6H and some combination of aftermarket heads/cams? Fox lake for some cleaned up TF's runs almost $2500, cams are your preference...comp make some nice grinds...MPH makes a cam specifically for use with a KB....I would step up to an MMR 800 or greater though...with that combination your gonna knock on 600Hp's door real quick lol and ditch the 4.10's....3.55/3.73/3.90 is more than enough gear and with that kinda power and torque its not gonna go straight anyway lol

MustangMabry · September 23rd, 2009, 02:06 PM

Well i don't know anything about the MMR 600 shortblock. We put a D.S.S. racing level 10 shortblock in my car with patriot stage 2 heads, comp xe274 cams, and professional products intake. We eventually plan to supercharge it.

I believe the t-56 will do you just fine. And the level 10 shortblock we got is rated for i think 900 hp. Hope this can be of help.

limited · September 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM

If you are putting a 2.6 on it,get the mmr 900. you will be at or over the rated hp of the 600

GTermi · September 23rd, 2009, 03:22 PM

Yeah the MMR 600 is a waste of money if you really want to make big power. Get the MMR 900 or stroke 950. its a bit more, but well worth not having to go back in there in a year and replacing the motor.

4.10GT · September 24th, 2009, 03:20 PM

kk thanks ill be going with the MMR 900.

03_StangGuy · September 24th, 2009, 03:49 PM

Remember the horsepower rating for the block is crank power NOT WHP, so a 600 block is only about 500whp, not very much.

Def Get the MMR 900 at least!

B0B · September 24th, 2009, 05:31 PM

was it just my imagination?? or was that dyno pull in the vid 3rd gear? almost 7000 rpm @ about 95mph? fail.

Boostang · September 24th, 2009, 07:52 PM

yea u wont want 4.10s with a twin screw super charger!! youll burn them rim off!!

03_StangGuy · September 25th, 2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Boostang

yea u wont want 4.10s with a twin screw super charger!! youll burn them rim off!!

Def, I got 3.43s and my tires start spinning in 2nd at 4 grand. 1st is almost useless.

4.10GT · September 25th, 2009, 02:38 PM

thats how i wont it

i like to have fun but ill also get the suspension to support those 4.10's

suprajay79 · September 25th, 2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by B0B

was it just my imagination?? or was that dyno pull in the vid 3rd gear? almost 7000 rpm @ about 95mph? fail.

Saw that too. Fail +1.

Although, maybe there's a correction factor for the gear used?

Shaun03GT · September 25th, 2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by B0B

was it just my imagination?? or was that dyno pull in the vid 3rd gear? almost 7000 rpm @ about 95mph? fail.

I realised the same thing....he has taller tires on there too. Thats stupid should have done a 4th like 99% of other places do lmao.

That Vortech GT that you posted a video of is nasty. I would love that setup but a KB instead of a Vortech. Like the others said definatley go MMR 900 for the extra couple $100. Well worth it. And definatley lower your gears. If your planning to hit around 600rwhp, Id go 3.55 or 3.73. Id personally go 3.55 so I have a long 4th gear.

Good louck man keep us posted

September 22nd, 2009, 07:23 PM	#1
4.10GT Regular 1999 Mustang gt 13.5@102MPH Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 iTrader: 0 reviews	My build plan! So guys ever senice this spray ive been itching for power. So its about to go down How does a MMR 600 shortblock with new heads cams and a borezilla kennebell sound? any input on what brands i should go with. ive researced i just want your guy's input this is my first build. im also going with a 4.10 gear ratio and 31 spline rear-end. and leaving exterior completely stock. i like haveing a sleeper. __________________ 2003 True blue Mustang GT steeda triax , h&r springs , bbk intake , c&l plenum ,frpp tb ,SCT tuned , 4.10's or x-pipe,mac CB , max motorsports sfc, 125 shot ,315 drag radials nt05r's 13.4@104 n/a RIP:1999 Mustang GT Auto 13.5 @102

September 22nd, 2009, 07:33 PM	#2
GTermi Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 640 iTrader: 0 reviews	Better look for a new tranny (TKO?), suspension (upper and lower control arms,Shocks and struts, springs) and definently look into some bolt ons. 600 HP is no good if you cant put it to the groud. __________________ My Car- 2004 Mustang GT Her Car- 2011 V6 Auto Premium Saving up for either a 2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011 5.0...Can't decide!

September 22nd, 2009, 07:47 PM	#3
4.10GT Regular 1999 Mustang gt 13.5@102MPH Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 iTrader: 0 reviews	how do you think a t-56 would handle the power? also im going full suspension and full bolt-ons of course! but do you guys think this build would be worth the money? __________________ 2003 True blue Mustang GT steeda triax , h&r springs , bbk intake , c&l plenum ,frpp tb ,SCT tuned , 4.10's or x-pipe,mac CB , max motorsports sfc, 125 shot ,315 drag radials nt05r's 13.4@104 n/a RIP:1999 Mustang GT Auto 13.5 @102

September 22nd, 2009, 07:53 PM	#5
GTermi Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 640 iTrader: 0 reviews	Suspension might not be as cool as buying a supercharger, but what i learned was that the car is built from the back to the front. Suspension is where it truly counts. What size shot you running too? I'm running a 150 on a conservative tune and putting down some sick numbers. Youll also want gears and tires. Nittos, Hoosiers or Mickey T's drag radials. A 6-speed can also handle up to ~600 HP supposidly. Thats my two cents. I love my setup, but its what you are looking for that matters. __________________ My Car- 2004 Mustang GT Her Car- 2011 V6 Auto Premium Saving up for either a 2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011 5.0...Can't decide! Last edited by GTermi; September 22nd, 2009 at 07:56 PM.

September 22nd, 2009, 07:55 PM	#6
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	a t-56 should handle it fine. They are generally good up to that much power without any mods. Higher and I think you would need to double check. Whether the build is worth the money is your call. Personally, spending 10k on my car, to get 600 hp would be worth it. The car would be faster than anything you meet save some super cars, and it would not have cost you anywhere near that much. If performance is your goal, its worth it. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark 04' PI Motor Author of The Official Suspension Guide

September 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM	#7
GTermi Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 640 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is this going to be a track car or street car? __________________ My Car- 2004 Mustang GT Her Car- 2011 V6 Auto Premium Saving up for either a 2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011 5.0...Can't decide!

September 23rd, 2009, 01:50 PM	#8
4.10GT Regular 1999 Mustang gt 13.5@102MPH Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 iTrader: 0 reviews	im going to drive it on the street and track. also i have a 100 shot on it right now. __________________ 2003 True blue Mustang GT steeda triax , h&r springs , bbk intake , c&l plenum ,frpp tb ,SCT tuned , 4.10's or x-pipe,mac CB , max motorsports sfc, 125 shot ,315 drag radials nt05r's 13.4@104 n/a RIP:1999 Mustang GT Auto 13.5 @102

September 23rd, 2009, 01:58 PM	#9
wishIhada5.0 MM Fanatic 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 3,413 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok so let me get this straight...you wanna do an MMR 600 with a KB 2.6H and some combination of aftermarket heads/cams? Fox lake for some cleaned up TF's runs almost $2500, cams are your preference...comp make some nice grinds...MPH makes a cam specifically for use with a KB....I would step up to an MMR 800 or greater though...with that combination your gonna knock on 600Hp's door real quick lol and ditch the 4.10's....3.55/3.73/3.90 is more than enough gear and with that kinda power and torque its not gonna go straight anyway lol __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno looking for block busting power...cms stage 3 blower cams on the horizon..[/

September 23rd, 2009, 02:06 PM	#10
MustangMabry Regular 2000 Mustang GT 8.85@79.2 in the 1/8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Savannah, Tenn. Posts: 190 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well i don't know anything about the MMR 600 shortblock. We put a D.S.S. racing level 10 shortblock in my car with patriot stage 2 heads, comp xe274 cams, and professional products intake. We eventually plan to supercharge it. I believe the t-56 will do you just fine. And the level 10 shortblock we got is rated for i think 900 hp. Hope this can be of help. __________________ Cory 2000 Silver Mustang GT See my Garage for details of the stang http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-27933/ 1994 Teal Green Mustang GT (spintech mufs & 3% tint) My You Tube page http://www.youtube.com/user/MustangMabry

September 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM	#11
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,067 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you are putting a 2.6 on it,get the mmr 900. you will be at or over the rated hp of the 600 __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

September 23rd, 2009, 03:22 PM	#12
GTermi Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 640 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah the MMR 600 is a waste of money if you really want to make big power. Get the MMR 900 or stroke 950. its a bit more, but well worth not having to go back in there in a year and replacing the motor. __________________ My Car- 2004 Mustang GT Her Car- 2011 V6 Auto Premium Saving up for either a 2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011 5.0...Can't decide!

September 24th, 2009, 03:20 PM	#13
4.10GT Regular 1999 Mustang gt 13.5@102MPH Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 iTrader: 0 reviews	kk thanks ill be going with the MMR 900. __________________ 2003 True blue Mustang GT steeda triax , h&r springs , bbk intake , c&l plenum ,frpp tb ,SCT tuned , 4.10's or x-pipe,mac CB , max motorsports sfc, 125 shot ,315 drag radials nt05r's 13.4@104 n/a RIP:1999 Mustang GT Auto 13.5 @102

September 24th, 2009, 03:49 PM	#14
03_StangGuy I Post Entirely Way Too Much Blown 03 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 6,238 iTrader: 0 reviews	Remember the horsepower rating for the block is crank power NOT WHP, so a 600 block is only about 500whp, not very much. Def Get the MMR 900 at least! __________________

September 24th, 2009, 05:31 PM	#15
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,601 iTrader: 2 reviews	was it just my imagination?? or was that dyno pull in the vid 3rd gear? almost 7000 rpm @ about 95mph? fail. __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

September 24th, 2009, 07:52 PM	#16
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,748 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea u wont want 4.10s with a twin screw super charger!! youll burn them rim off!!

September 25th, 2009, 02:38 PM	#18
4.10GT Regular 1999 Mustang gt 13.5@102MPH Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats how i wont it i like to have fun but ill also get the suspension to support those 4.10's __________________ 2003 True blue Mustang GT steeda triax , h&r springs , bbk intake , c&l plenum ,frpp tb ,SCT tuned , 4.10's or x-pipe,mac CB , max motorsports sfc, 125 shot ,315 drag radials nt05r's 13.4@104 n/a RIP:1999 Mustang GT Auto 13.5 @102

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