Lowering GT, Best Route To Go???

wrr1020 · October 1st, 2009, 01:22 AM

What's up guys, i just bought an 02 GT last weekend and i'm looking to lower the car soon. I'm looking at the H&R Super Sport or the Eibach Pro Kit. Leaning more towards the H&R's cause the front will be lowered more than the rear, which is the look i'm going for.

Would i need to buy new shocks when i order the springs? What about caster camber plates, will i need any. Car is running on stock bullitt rims. I have no idea how to install them myself so i'm gonna have to have someone do it for me, how much should i be paying when i get quotes from different shops? If anyone knows a good shop to do the installation in the Los Angeles area please let me know.

Since i just got the car i'm still stoked i finally have one so here's a pic of her in my driveway. It's my first Mustang.

Ryguy33 · October 1st, 2009, 01:32 AM

if you want the h & r's your deff going to need the caster camber plates...with the eibach pro kit youll be able to get away with out them..and as far as shocks..its always a good idea to replace them when all that stuff is going to be out anyways.
and what part of LA are you in?

wrr1020 · October 1st, 2009, 01:41 AM

Any recommendations on what kind of shocks to get with the H&R's? I'm in San Fernando Valley, specifically Burbank/Glendale area.

ReverendDexter · October 1st, 2009, 01:44 AM

Bilsteins if you've got the coin for 'em. I suggest against adjustables unless you can get Koni's or better, and even then I still say you're better off with a non-adjustable for the same money.

I'd suggest CC plates for EVERY Mustang, lowered or not. Putting a performance alignment on these cars make a night&day difference.

Ryguy33 · October 1st, 2009, 01:44 AM

umm if you want performance shocks ide either go with tokico d-specs(they are adjustible) if you dont care about adjustibility than bilstein..if thos are to expensive than just go with tokico hp's..
and for shops look into this one. this is where i go if i have a problem that i cant fix..
Mikes Frame and Alignment

dannyboy281 · October 1st, 2009, 02:49 AM

^+1 id get the CC plates if your going with the H&R's if your going with the pro's it not necessary i personally think the Pro's are a waste of money they hardly lower the stance from stock. By the way welcome to MM nice ride looks really clean does it have any mods to it?

Supra · October 1st, 2009, 02:57 AM

H&R's FTW. I dont have CC plates though.

dannyboy281 · October 1st, 2009, 03:02 AM

hey supra thank for the pics you sent me of your ride's stance, im still waiting to get some more cash to get the H&R's

wrr1020 · October 1st, 2009, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by dannyboy281

^+1 id get the CC plates if your going with the H&R's if your going with the pro's it not necessary i personally think the Pro's are a waste of money they hardly lower the stance from stock. By the way welcome to MM nice ride looks really clean does it have any mods to it?

Thanks, no it has no mods whatsoever. Only thing i've done to it is 35% tint all around. Other than that it's completely stock.

dannyboy281 · October 1st, 2009, 03:36 AM

let the modding commense!

stealthfighterGT · October 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM

I'd definitely go with the H&R SS, they're they best looking springs for our cars imo, I bought Vogtland 1.6's cause they were quite a bit cheaper but now I wish I would have gone with the H&R's. As for shocks/struts I love my Tokico HP's (half the $$ of Bilstien's, but not quite as good) and I fully agree with Reverend Dex about CC plates, we all need 'em!(+reps). I'd also look into a bumpsteer kit and new balljoints, it's easier to do it all at once while everything is taken apart.

wrr1020 · October 1st, 2009, 04:32 AM

Since i already have a thread going do i need any special tools for the mach 1 grill delete kit. I heard the 4 screws under the grill thats connected to the bumper is the hardest part of this install. What's the best way to get those out and exactly what tool would i need. I'm a noob when it comes to working on cars, i have never worked on one in my life so this is the first car i'm gonna do small jobs on. My toolbox consists of a few screwdrivers and a set of wrenches, yes it's sad. Would these tools suffice for the grill delete install or will i need something else. Thanks guys

An82Mustang · October 1st, 2009, 08:11 AM

As far as springs I used the FRPP "C" Springs and love them..... They dropped the car alot...

She's ugly in the pic but I'm painting her this weekend....

ModMustang97GT · October 1st, 2009, 04:19 PM

Please go to The Official Suspension guide and read through the section on CC plates.

In general, you might need them for those spring because they drop so much. Shocks are recommended in the next year or so. I'd go with a set of tokico blues if your cheap, and a set of Bilstein HD's if you get some money. You may also run into an issue with bump-steer at that height so be warry.

With the SS springs from H&R, you will get a good 2" drop on the front, but your stock shocks will be a little under-dampered for them, and depending on your car you may have alignment and bump steer issues. Both are fixable, you should just be aware that it is possible.

XectriK · October 1st, 2009, 04:48 PM

My suspension setup:
-H&R Super Sport Springs
-Tokico HP Series Shocks and Struts
-Maximum Motorsports CC plates

18" wheels complete the look.

goren813 · October 1st, 2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by dannyboy281

^+1 id get the CC plates if your going with the H&R's if your going with the pro's it not necessary i personally think the Pro's are a waste of money they hardly lower the stance from stock. By the way welcome to MM nice ride looks really clean does it have any mods to it?

Wrong.

Pro kit/Tokico HP's/MM CC plates.

Listen to RevDex, this guy knows his stuff. I completely agree with his statements.

goren813 · October 1st, 2009, 05:04 PM

My car is 1.75" lower than stock at the side skirt. That's noticeably more than stock by far.

marcuslee842 · October 1st, 2009, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by goren420

My car is 1.75" lower than stock at the side skirt. That's noticeably more than stock by far.

I like that drop! Did u use the spacers with the X2 ball joints? I ask because I have a 1.5 drop on the front and it's not as low as yours,

Ryguy33 · October 1st, 2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by wrr1020

Since i already have a thread going do i need any special tools for the mach 1 grill delete kit. I heard the 4 screws under the grill thats connected to the bumper is the hardest part of this install. What's the best way to get those out and exactly what tool would i need. I'm a noob when it comes to working on cars, i have never worked on one in my life so this is the first car i'm gonna do small jobs on. My toolbox consists of a few screwdrivers and a set of wrenches, yes it's sad. Would these tools suffice for the grill delete install or will i need something else. Thanks guys

i literally just riped it off the 4 tabs and it worked for me

Novanutcase · October 1st, 2009, 08:26 PM

Coilover kit.....then you can tailor it to the exact ride height you're looking for!!!

BTW I'm in Los Feliz next to Griffith Park so I'm close to you.........

John

October 1st, 2009, 01:22 AM	#1
wrr1020 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lowering GT, Best Route To Go??? What's up guys, i just bought an 02 GT last weekend and i'm looking to lower the car soon. I'm looking at the H&R Super Sport or the Eibach Pro Kit. Leaning more towards the H&R's cause the front will be lowered more than the rear, which is the look i'm going for. Would i need to buy new shocks when i order the springs? What about caster camber plates, will i need any. Car is running on stock bullitt rims. I have no idea how to install them myself so i'm gonna have to have someone do it for me, how much should i be paying when i get quotes from different shops? If anyone knows a good shop to do the installation in the Los Angeles area please let me know. Since i just got the car i'm still stoked i finally have one so here's a pic of her in my driveway. It's my first Mustang.

October 1st, 2009, 01:32 AM	#2
Ryguy33 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang Gt 3 seconds......flat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: L.A. , California Posts: 1,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	if you want the h & r's your deff going to need the caster camber plates...with the eibach pro kit youll be able to get away with out them..and as far as shocks..its always a good idea to replace them when all that stuff is going to be out anyways. and what part of LA are you in? __________________ Mods = stuff to make me take corner faster

October 1st, 2009, 01:44 AM	#4
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,233 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bilsteins if you've got the coin for 'em. I suggest against adjustables unless you can get Koni's or better, and even then I still say you're better off with a non-adjustable for the same money. I'd suggest CC plates for EVERY Mustang, lowered or not. Putting a performance alignment on these cars make a night&day difference. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\ Buy my Bronco, special deal for MM folks

October 1st, 2009, 01:44 AM	#5
Ryguy33 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang Gt 3 seconds......flat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: L.A. , California Posts: 1,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	umm if you want performance shocks ide either go with tokico d-specs(they are adjustible) if you dont care about adjustibility than bilstein..if thos are to expensive than just go with tokico hp's.. and for shops look into this one. this is where i go if i have a problem that i cant fix.. Mikes Frame and Alignment __________________ Mods = stuff to make me take corner faster

October 1st, 2009, 02:49 AM	#6
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 4,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,426 iTrader: 0 reviews	^+1 id get the CC plates if your going with the H&R's if your going with the pro's it not necessary i personally think the Pro's are a waste of money they hardly lower the stance from stock. By the way welcome to MM nice ride looks really clean does it have any mods to it? __________________ FS: Mach 1 OEM Wheels 3K miles with NEW Nitto 555's 275/40/17's PM me http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...555s-rear.html

October 1st, 2009, 01:41 AM	#3
wrr1020 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 reviews	Any recommendations on what kind of shocks to get with the H&R's? I'm in San Fernando Valley, specifically Burbank/Glendale area.

October 1st, 2009, 02:57 AM	#7
Supra Regular 2004 Mach 1 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: saskatchewan, canada Posts: 369 iTrader: 0 reviews	H&R's FTW. I dont have CC plates though. __________________ 2004 Azure Mach 1 - K&N FIPK, 3/8" intake spacer, SCT Tuned, BBK O/R X, Magnapack CB, Tri-Ax, Built 31 spline diff with Detroit Truetrac, 4.10's, MM LCA's, Raptor shift light 2004 Mustang GT - Sold

October 1st, 2009, 03:02 AM	#8
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 4,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,426 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey supra thank for the pics you sent me of your ride's stance, im still waiting to get some more cash to get the H&R's __________________ FS: Mach 1 OEM Wheels 3K miles with NEW Nitto 555's 275/40/17's PM me http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...555s-rear.html

October 1st, 2009, 03:36 AM	#10
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 4,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,426 iTrader: 0 reviews	let the modding commense! __________________ FS: Mach 1 OEM Wheels 3K miles with NEW Nitto 555's 275/40/17's PM me http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...555s-rear.html

October 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM	#11
stealthfighterGT Newbie 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St.Louis MO Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'd definitely go with the H&R SS, they're they best looking springs for our cars imo, I bought Vogtland 1.6's cause they were quite a bit cheaper but now I wish I would have gone with the H&R's. As for shocks/struts I love my Tokico HP's (half the $$ of Bilstien's, but not quite as good) and I fully agree with Reverend Dex about CC plates, we all need 'em!(+reps). I'd also look into a bumpsteer kit and new balljoints, it's easier to do it all at once while everything is taken apart. __________________ 2001 Black Mustang GT 4R70W - MMR Street Mod 600 Shortblock, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, Modular Head Shop Stage 2.5 N/A Cams, Full Bolt Ons

October 1st, 2009, 04:32 AM	#12
wrr1020 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 reviews	Since i already have a thread going do i need any special tools for the mach 1 grill delete kit. I heard the 4 screws under the grill thats connected to the bumper is the hardest part of this install. What's the best way to get those out and exactly what tool would i need. I'm a noob when it comes to working on cars, i have never worked on one in my life so this is the first car i'm gonna do small jobs on. My toolbox consists of a few screwdrivers and a set of wrenches, yes it's sad. Would these tools suffice for the grill delete install or will i need something else. Thanks guys Last edited by wrr1020; October 1st, 2009 at 04:56 AM.

October 1st, 2009, 08:11 AM	#13
An82Mustang Regular 2000 Kona Blue GT Vert Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 197 iTrader: 0 reviews	As far as springs I used the FRPP "C" Springs and love them..... They dropped the car alot... She's ugly in the pic but I'm painting her this weekend....

October 1st, 2009, 04:19 PM	#14
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	Please go to The Official Suspension guide and read through the section on CC plates. In general, you might need them for those spring because they drop so much. Shocks are recommended in the next year or so. I'd go with a set of tokico blues if your cheap, and a set of Bilstein HD's if you get some money. You may also run into an issue with bump-steer at that height so be warry. With the SS springs from H&R, you will get a good 2" drop on the front, but your stock shocks will be a little under-dampered for them, and depending on your car you may have alignment and bump steer issues. Both are fixable, you should just be aware that it is possible. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark 04' PI Motor Author of The Official Suspension Guide

October 1st, 2009, 04:48 PM	#15
XectriK Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	My suspension setup: -H&R Super Sport Springs -Tokico HP Series Shocks and Struts -Maximum Motorsports CC plates 18" wheels complete the look. __________________

October 1st, 2009, 05:04 PM	#17
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,412 iTrader: 0 reviews	My car is 1.75" lower than stock at the side skirt. That's noticeably more than stock by far. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

October 1st, 2009, 08:26 PM	#20
Novanutcase Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,042 iTrader: 0 reviews	Coilover kit.....then you can tailor it to the exact ride height you're looking for!!! BTW I'm in Los Feliz next to Griffith Park so I'm close to you......... John __________________ SOLD - '03 GT, Max Moto Max Grip Box, Wilwood SL 6 front/DL4 rear Big Brake Kit, Corbeau Seats, MGW Short Shifter, MAC Long Tube Headers/Prochamber mid/ Flowmaster 40, FRPP 4.10, TrickFlow Diff Cover/75mm TB/Plenum, Eaton Posi, Moser 31 spl Axles

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