stroker, buy a shortblock, or buy parts and have it assembled?

94pacecarSVT · October 10th, 2009, 03:43 PM

i've been looking at shortblocks from dss, mmr, and coast high perf, and i dont know who i should buy from. i have heard a lot of good things about mmr, and a little abot coast, but not so much about dss, and dss is the most expensive. but mmr has a layaway program that would help me out a lot. should i buy a shortblock from them, or buy all the parts for it and have it assembled elsewhere? im gonna be buying heads to have ported, an intake, cams, coils, wires, and an msd box, injectors, oil pan, oil pump, a tb, plenum, and some other stuff to build a whole new longblock, so i have a lot of stuff i need besides just the shortblock. i basically am building a whole new motor. what do you guys think?

quiksilver225 · October 10th, 2009, 03:44 PM

5.4

Boostang · October 10th, 2009, 07:11 PM

now how did i know that som idiot was gonna say 5.4.. id go with the the mmr if i were u.. or let me build it

Double0Fox · October 10th, 2009, 09:15 PM

This is the same question I have been asking myself. Since I have a Winsor motor, most everyone builds from 03-04 Cobra Romeo blocks, and not that it is a huge problem, just a few more things I have to find to drop it in. I also kinda have been kicking around the 5.4 idea. Everytime I see a LS car I do get a little envious of thier extra cubes. As far as what company I would go with? MMR. I have heard nothing but good things about them, and they are pretty active on the mustang forums. Now I have not actually delt with them, but the general consesus is good. I really want to stay N/A with a little spray here, and there, so I always thought of a forged 5.4, or 5.0 stroker, with the new trickflow heads would be pretty fun.

limited · October 11th, 2009, 01:44 PM

If i did not have all the parts for a 5.0 stroker already,I would have went with a 5.0 big bore.Perfect modular imo. short stoke for high rpm,large bore to unshroud the valves.

if you put a 3.750 stroker crank in it than you have a 324,still not as large as a 5.4(330) but with a much more favoritable rod angle

Boostang · October 11th, 2009, 02:33 PM

351 modular FTW

AggieStang · October 11th, 2009, 03:15 PM

If I could do it all again I would buy a shortblock and assemble it from there.

limited · October 11th, 2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Boostang

351 modular FTW

351 modular? how's that? do you mean winsdor(pushrod motor)?

Double0Fox · October 11th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Modular Mustang Racing go to the products page, and look at modular engine components, and it's the 4th one down.

jivepepper · October 11th, 2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by limited

If i did not have all the parts for a 5.0 stroker already,I would have went with a 5.0 big bore.Perfect modular imo. short stoke for high rpm,large bore to unshroud the valves.

if you put a 3.750 stroker crank in it than you have a 324,still not as large as a 5.4(330) but with a much more favoritable rod angle

Originally Posted by Boostang

351 modular FTW

Originally Posted by MellowYellow

If I could do it all again I would buy a shortblock and assemble it from there.

Originally Posted by limited

351 modular? how's that? do you mean winsdor(pushrod motor)?

No. MMR makes a big bore sleeved 351R from a 5.4.

Doc8224 · October 11th, 2009, 05:31 PM

2 biggest questions to ask yourself are... 1. is there a good shop that will do the work right and whats the cost to do it. 2. Will it be done to the exact standards of the shortblock your wanting. In most cases as with the D.S.S shortblocks you get good block prep and power limits clearly posted for the shortblock you buy.

limited · October 11th, 2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Double0Fox

Modular Mustang Racing go to the products page, and look at modular engine components, and it's the 4th one down.

aaah, couple that block with a 3.75 stroke and that might be a badass set-up

streeter · October 11th, 2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Boostang

now how did i know that som idiot was gonna say 5.4.. id go with the the mmr if i were u.. or let me build it

Well, I am another IDIOT..LOL. I am seriously thinking of doing the swap.

Boostang · October 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM

why?? imo its not worth it really.. if u do do a 5.4 atleast do a 4v!

streeter · October 11th, 2009, 07:57 PM

For me it is called torque gains.

quiksilver225 · October 11th, 2009, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boostang

why?? imo its not worth it really.. if u do do a 5.4 atleast do a 4v!

im doing a 5.4 4V now

jivepepper · October 11th, 2009, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by streeter

For me it is called torque gains.

torque smork.

Double0Fox · October 11th, 2009, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

im doing a 5.4 4V now

I would love to see some pics, and maybe some things you have encountered so far along the way.

I will admit I always have these ideas kicking around in my head. Would they be a pain in the ass, and be more trouble than they are worth. Maybe, but that's why we are here in this thread.

MustangGT06 · October 11th, 2009, 09:36 PM

Depends how much a shop wants to assemble your shortblock. I'm going to get a stock stroke forged bottom end from CMS for $1500 and a bare block from houstonperformance for $300. My local shop only charging me $200 to bore it .020" and assemble it.

mounder27 · October 11th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by MustangGT06

Depends how much a shop wants to assemble your shortblock. I'm going to get a stock stroke forged bottom end from CMS for $1500 and a bare block from houstonperformance for $300. My local shop only charging me $200 to bore it .020" and assemble it.

thats a hell of a deal but in most cases i would say most shops aren't that fogiving with the price, get it from MMR, they are cheapest and they have a 1 year warrenty along with bad ass motors...MMR FTW...

October 10th, 2009, 03:43 PM	#1
94pacecarSVT Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT 11.2@122.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 656 iTrader: 1 reviews	stroker, buy a shortblock, or buy parts and have it assembled? i've been looking at shortblocks from dss, mmr, and coast high perf, and i dont know who i should buy from. i have heard a lot of good things about mmr, and a little abot coast, but not so much about dss, and dss is the most expensive. but mmr has a layaway program that would help me out a lot. should i buy a shortblock from them, or buy all the parts for it and have it assembled elsewhere? im gonna be buying heads to have ported, an intake, cams, coils, wires, and an msd box, injectors, oil pan, oil pump, a tb, plenum, and some other stuff to build a whole new longblock, so i have a lot of stuff i need besides just the shortblock. i basically am building a whole new motor. what do you guys think? __________________ black 96 gt w/ non pi motor, cai, built t45, built rear end w/ 3.73's, completely modded suspension, race radiator.....startin over. www.rk-collection.com

October 10th, 2009, 03:44 PM	#2
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.4 __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 10th, 2009, 09:15 PM	#4
Double0Fox Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Covington Washington Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 reviews	This is the same question I have been asking myself. Since I have a Winsor motor, most everyone builds from 03-04 Cobra Romeo blocks, and not that it is a huge problem, just a few more things I have to find to drop it in. I also kinda have been kicking around the 5.4 idea. Everytime I see a LS car I do get a little envious of thier extra cubes. As far as what company I would go with? MMR. I have heard nothing but good things about them, and they are pretty active on the mustang forums. Now I have not actually delt with them, but the general consesus is good. I really want to stay N/A with a little spray here, and there, so I always thought of a forged 5.4, or 5.0 stroker, with the new trickflow heads would be pretty fun. __________________

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limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,297 iTrader: 0 reviews	If i did not have all the parts for a 5.0 stroker already,I would have went with a 5.0 big bore.Perfect modular imo. short stoke for high rpm,large bore to unshroud the valves. if you put a 3.750 stroker crank in it than you have a 324,still not as large as a 5.4(330) but with a much more favoritable rod angle __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

October 11th, 2009, 03:15 PM	#7
AggieStang WHOOP! 2002 Mustang GT 7.44@95 (1/8) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 3,115 iTrader: 3 reviews	If I could do it all again I would buy a shortblock and assemble it from there. __________________ Buy my: Nitrous Accessories Diablosport Programmer In The Classifieds

October 10th, 2009, 07:11 PM	#3
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	now how did i know that som idiot was gonna say 5.4.. id go with the the mmr if i were u.. or let me build it

October 11th, 2009, 02:33 PM	#6
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	351 modular FTW

October 11th, 2009, 03:35 PM	#9
Double0Fox Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Covington Washington Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 reviews	Modular Mustang Racing go to the products page, and look at modular engine components, and it's the 4th one down. __________________

October 11th, 2009, 05:31 PM	#11
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	2 biggest questions to ask yourself are... 1. is there a good shop that will do the work right and whats the cost to do it. 2. Will it be done to the exact standards of the shortblock your wanting. In most cases as with the D.S.S shortblocks you get good block prep and power limits clearly posted for the shortblock you buy. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM	#14
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	why?? imo its not worth it really.. if u do do a 5.4 atleast do a 4v!

October 11th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#15
streeter Newbie 02 GT, lots garbage on it 35.74@15.89 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arizona/Nevada Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 reviews	For me it is called torque gains.

October 11th, 2009, 09:36 PM	#19
MustangGT06 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 567 iTrader: 0 reviews	Depends how much a shop wants to assemble your shortblock. I'm going to get a stock stroke forged bottom end from CMS for $1500 and a bare block from houstonperformance for $300. My local shop only charging me $200 to bore it .020" and assemble it.

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