Built 5.4 suggestions???

quiksilver225 · October 16th, 2009, 04:25 PM

As many of you already know i am doing a 5.4 swap in my 99 GT. I just spoke with Terry and Bob at Street Lethal Performance about having them assemble at the very least a built short block for me. I will be going with 4V heads on this motor and i want to build a bullet proof motor that i can eventually put an F1A kit onto sometime in the next year. so far we discussed some options for forged internals and even tossed around the idea of boring it over .20. If anyone has any type of suggestions, experiences, or comments im all ears. Im looking to get this done sometime next month.

quiksilver225 · October 16th, 2009, 04:43 PM

^not what im looking for.

i want to know what everyone thinks as far as rods, pistons, crank, etc. I already know that im using stock navigator heads and the Sullivan Performance 5.4 4v intake manifold.

zigbigadoru · October 16th, 2009, 05:48 PM

you shouldnt need a new crank due to most of them stock ones being forged. as far as rods and pistons i would go with a set of these pistons and these rods.
PISTONS/RINGS MAHLE FORGED POWER PACK 4.6L 5.4L SMALL BLOCK FORD INVERTED DOME (DISHED TOP)
Rods H-Beam Ford Stroker 4.6 5.4 347 5.850" 5.933" 6.657"

casper gt · October 16th, 2009, 08:10 PM

actually most 5.4's have cast crank's (only very early one's got forged crank's) but the forged crank is still avalible new (got mine for 400, new). I'll be using Manley rods & pistons.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 16th, 2009, 09:44 PM

lightnings got them, and some of the navi's as well. like casper said, most are cast pieces.

Smoothgrandmama · October 16th, 2009, 10:59 PM

Ford Racing 5.4L 4V Forged Iron Short Block 8.1:1 - Available While Supplies Last, Limited Quantity [M-6009-C54SC4] - $2,995.95 : Powered By Ford - Your only high performance parts supplier for your Ford car or truck, When you want it done right and

liljojo4711 · October 17th, 2009, 12:36 AM

Products » Shortblocks » MMR » MMR 5.4 Street Mod 900 (up to 900HP)

$2899

330CubeGt · October 17th, 2009, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by liljojo4711

Products » Shortblocks » MMR » MMR 5.4 Street Mod 900 (up to 900HP)

$2899

To rich for my blood...

zigbigadoru · October 17th, 2009, 10:48 AM

im pretty sure they had forged cranks because when i had my crank out and had the cylinders honed and the crank micked he said it was a forged piece. i thought that it was the other way around, oh well i guess. i still got a forged crank and thats all that matters

liljojo4711 · October 17th, 2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by 330CubeGt

To rich for my blood...

definitely lol. the only reason i posted is because the one posted above me was $100 more...

im definitely building my own

quiksilver225 · October 17th, 2009, 05:37 PM

my budget for this swap stands at about 7k$. dream up some way of spending that cash as effectively as possible while maintaining the following:

5.4 4V swap(i can already hear voices saying "get a termi motor", "just buy a procharger")
forged internals
included parts for ease of installation would be nice

liljojo4711 · October 17th, 2009, 06:00 PM

navi motor
forged internals
port heads
lt headers
vortech
sullivan intake
solid motor mounts
tune

BakerFX4 · October 17th, 2009, 07:38 PM

i have navi block, crank, rods, pistons, bare 4v heads, and most anything off this motor. 2000 navi 5.4 4v. If you want any of it let me know! Bare 4v heads and crank would save you some money. Maybe someone else will let us know if the crank is forged or is cast?

Smoothgrandmama · October 17th, 2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by liljojo4711

definitely lol. the only reason i posted is because the one posted above me was $100 more...

im definitely building my own

I can get the Svt GT500 shortblock for 2700 shipped....Try again

Ford GT cams = $500
Ford GT Heads = $2000

Then the rest is gonna be tied up in fuel system intake etc etc

liljojo4711 · October 18th, 2009, 02:02 AM

what do u mean try again...

quiksilver225 · October 18th, 2009, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by liljojo4711

navi motor
forged internals
port heads
lt headers
vortech
sullivan intake
solid motor mounts
tune

no room for LT headers. head work is retarded to do on a 4V and too expensive. vortech cant touch a F1A procharger.

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

i have navi block, crank, rods, pistons, bare 4v heads, and most anything off this motor. 2000 navi 5.4 4v. If you want any of it let me know! Bare 4v heads and crank would save you some money. Maybe someone else will let us know if the crank is forged or is cast?

stock crank is not forged. what kind of internals do you have?

Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama

I can get the Svt GT500 shortblock for 2700 shipped....Try again

Ford GT cams = $500
Ford GT Heads = $2000

Then the rest is gonna be tied up in fuel system intake etc etc

is the GT500 block aluminum? i know the Ford GT is. what is the difference in the heads? i believe they are the same. if thats the case i would be better off building my own short block and using better parts than those used by Ford.

Smoothgrandmama · October 18th, 2009, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

no room for LT headers. head work is retarded to do on a 4V and too expensive. vortech cant touch a F1A procharger.

stock crank is not forged. what kind of internals do you have?

is the GT500 block aluminum? i know the Ford GT is. what is the difference in the heads? i believe they are the same. if thats the case i would be better off building my own short block and using better parts than those used by Ford.

The GT500 iron shortblock weighs 230 lbs. for the record the 4.6 alumninator weighs 350 and do you really need internals that can handle more than 900whp?
as far as heads go the ford GT heads are the same heads that went on the 2000 cobra r. i suggest just because no one else runs them and there sick.

Smoothgrandmama · October 18th, 2009, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by liljojo4711

what do u mean try again...

I mean 2700 is 200 cheaper than 2900

so if you only posted that shortblock cause it 100 cheaper than you have failed

BakerFX4 · October 18th, 2009, 11:41 AM

stock internals.... I tore the motor down as i was thinking about doing something with it but im just not really into it anymore. so i have an entire 5.4 4v motor out of a 2000 navigator tore down.

liljojo4711 · October 18th, 2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

no room for LT headers.

what do u mean no room?

Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama

I mean 2700 is 200 cheaper than 2900 so if you only posted that shortblock cause it 100 cheaper than you have failed

i didnt look at the thread but in the link it says $2995.95.... so i assumed thats how much it costs, my mistake i guess

October 16th, 2009, 04:25 PM	#1
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	Built 5.4 suggestions??? As many of you already know i am doing a 5.4 swap in my 99 GT. I just spoke with Terry and Bob at Street Lethal Performance about having them assemble at the very least a built short block for me. I will be going with 4V heads on this motor and i want to build a bullet proof motor that i can eventually put an F1A kit onto sometime in the next year. so far we discussed some options for forged internals and even tossed around the idea of boring it over .20. If anyone has any type of suggestions, experiences, or comments im all ears. Im looking to get this done sometime next month. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 16th, 2009, 04:43 PM	#2
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	^not what im looking for. i want to know what everyone thinks as far as rods, pistons, crank, etc. I already know that im using stock navigator heads and the Sullivan Performance 5.4 4v intake manifold. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 16th, 2009, 08:10 PM	#4
casper gt Moderator 2012 300a gt auto 12.10@116 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: creighton pa Posts: 7,697 iTrader: 4 reviews	actually most 5.4's have cast crank's (only very early one's got forged crank's) but the forged crank is still avalible new (got mine for 400, new). I'll be using Manley rods & pistons. __________________ MM BRACKET RACING CREW CO-FOUNDER BAMA Performance Drag Team Founder 2012 300a GT auto

October 16th, 2009, 09:44 PM	#5
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	lightnings got them, and some of the navi's as well. like casper said, most are cast pieces. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 16th, 2009, 10:59 PM	#6
Smoothgrandmama Assistant to the Manager 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 7,157 iTrader: 6 reviews	Ford Racing 5.4L 4V Forged Iron Short Block 8.1:1 - Available While Supplies Last, Limited Quantity [M-6009-C54SC4] - $2,995.95 : Powered By Ford - Your only high performance parts supplier for your Ford car or truck, When you want it done right and __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal, 101Fng

October 17th, 2009, 05:37 PM	#11
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	my budget for this swap stands at about 7k$. dream up some way of spending that cash as effectively as possible while maintaining the following: 5.4 4V swap(i can already hear voices saying "get a termi motor", "just buy a procharger") forged internals included parts for ease of installation would be nice __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 17th, 2009, 07:38 PM	#13
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	i have navi block, crank, rods, pistons, bare 4v heads, and most anything off this motor. 2000 navi 5.4 4v. If you want any of it let me know! Bare 4v heads and crank would save you some money. Maybe someone else will let us know if the crank is forged or is cast? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

October 18th, 2009, 11:41 AM	#19
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	stock internals.... I tore the motor down as i was thinking about doing something with it but im just not really into it anymore. so i have an entire 5.4 4v motor out of a 2000 navigator tore down. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

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