Throw out bearing.

Dolbs4082 · October 21st, 2009, 11:41 AM

I know that further down on this page is another throw out bearing question, but i dont want to thread jack, plus my question is slightly different then his.

When i built my motor i put the spec flywheel and spec stage 1 clutch (should have gone with stage 2, but 1 is doing just fine with grip, doesnt slip or anything.) but with in 500 miles it started clattering really bad. its to the point where its annoying the hell out of me.

Can you replace your throw out bearing with out pulling the entire clutch system? my clutch only has 5,000 mile on it or so. im sure you guys will say pull it and put a ram or atleast a stage 2 in it. but due to the new born baby and new house funds are limited and this clutch functions fine. its just the throw out thats messing up.

What are the options now?

SteviGX · October 21st, 2009, 12:30 PM

did you use the spec TOB in ????

If there is one thing i have learned here...never use an aftermarket TOB

Dolbs4082 · October 21st, 2009, 01:37 PM

yea i used the bearing that came in the kit. it sounds like that was a mistake on my behalf. Can i just replace that peice or do i have to put a new clutch in it?

GTsetGO · October 21st, 2009, 01:39 PM

replace it with an OEM TOB.

the one that spec or any other clutch company provides is garbage

empyrials · October 21st, 2009, 01:44 PM

On my DSM it didn't matter if i used an OEM or Spec TOB, it always rattled when i had a SPEC clutch in there

Hopefully it's different for mustangs

quiksilver225 · October 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM

Spec is very hit or miss. You either get a piece of garbage or a great clutch from them. There is no consistency in the quality of their stuff. You will hear from some who love Spec and you will hear from others who hate spec. With the stage one its pretty common to hate the Spec clutch kits. They just dont get it done. Regardless always use a Ford tob. the aftermarket guys try to slim the bearing up and use light weight stuff to try to save weight, but by doing so the bearing just dont hold up as well. The Ford ones are big, beefy, clunky, and last forever. They are "built Ford tough."

If you need to save money grab a new bearing and run that clutch into the ground. when it comes time for a new one look toward something more reliable like centerforce. Your only saving money if what you buy has the same lifespan as the expensive parts. Spec stage 1 does not last like a centerforce dual friction will.

quiksilver225 · October 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM

replacing your clutch? look no further.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 21st, 2009, 09:25 PM

most problem with people and spec is that people dont know how to break them in. the spec clutches dont like to be baby'd to be broke in, they like to have a fairly aggressive break in. spec's quality is great, it is consistent, nothing wrong with them at all.

zinc02GT · October 21st, 2009, 09:51 PM

...And I'm gonna say the exact opposite of sweet2kstang. I hate spec with a passion. I wasted $300 some odd dollars on their bullshit quality parts. It's not your TOB, it's your clutch. The clutch is garbage. To replace the TOB, you have to drop the transmission again.

Also, I'm using the RAM TOB in my car. I didn't have the money for the Ford TOB at the time. 18,000 miles later and not a single problem.

quiksilver225 · October 21st, 2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by zinc02GT

...And I'm gonna say the exact opposite of sweet2kstang. I hate spec with a passion. I wasted $300 some odd dollars on their bullshit quality parts. It's not your TOB, it's your clutch. The clutch is garbage. To replace the TOB, you have to drop the transmission again.

Also, I'm using the RAM TOB in my car. I didn't have the money for the Ford TOB at the time. 18,000 miles later and not a single problem.

i havent heard anything bad about the ram bearings either, but i still wouldnt wanna take the chance. my centerforce bearing is garbage. the clutch is great, just a poopy bearing.

Redux · October 21st, 2009, 11:09 PM

Fine I'll say it. The RAM bearing is garbage too..... Just replaced my clutch 2 months (ish) ago and my TOB is already whining again.

Love the clutch though, its great. Just wish I went with the OEM as stated above.

zinc02GT · October 21st, 2009, 11:37 PM

Guess I must have hit it right then? I dunno. I did my clutch according to Ford's spec by their Workshop manual. I even used the grease they recommended...

SWEET2KSTANG · October 22nd, 2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by zinc02GT

...And I'm gonna say the exact opposite of sweet2kstang. I hate spec with a passion. I wasted $300 some odd dollars on their bullshit quality parts. It's not your TOB, it's your clutch. The clutch is garbage. To replace the TOB, you have to drop the transmission again.

Also, I'm using the RAM TOB in my car. I didn't have the money for the Ford TOB at the time. 18,000 miles later and not a single problem.

i love spec clutches

i would recommend them to anyone. i thought you were one of the centerforce nutswingers. i havent heard much of anything out of ram, but what i have heard have been decent reveiws.

Redux · October 22nd, 2009, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by zinc02GT

Guess I must have hit it right then? I dunno. I did my clutch according to Ford's spec by their Workshop manual. I even used the grease they recommended...

Yeah I did on mine to. It's just hit and miss as stated above. It's just a love of work if you "miss" to try and replace it again shortly thereafter. That's why I recommended getting an OEM.

~C~ · October 22nd, 2009, 10:05 AM

Everyone loves and hates everything............

Except for Centerforce. Love mine. No problems with it all.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 22nd, 2009, 10:06 AM

^read post 13

TwirtleNutZ270 · October 22nd, 2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by empyrials

On my DSM it didn't matter if i used an OEM or Spec TOB, it always rattled when i had a SPEC clutch in there Hopefully it's different for mustangs

Dude that's Japan they do stuff all different lol

wishIhada5.0 · October 22nd, 2009, 10:33 AM

FRPP is a nice heavy TOB...I like my centerforce alot...I dont however like the flywheel that I left unadressed when I changed the clutch lol so the tranny is on the floor...again lol

Redux · October 22nd, 2009, 11:58 AM

You didn't get it turned? ......

zinc02GT · October 22nd, 2009, 12:13 PM

You're supposed to get the flywheel resurfaced dude...

October 21st, 2009, 11:41 AM	#1
Dolbs4082 I Blumpkin Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: kansas Posts: 6,649 iTrader: 0 reviews	Throw out bearing. I know that further down on this page is another throw out bearing question, but i dont want to thread jack, plus my question is slightly different then his. When i built my motor i put the spec flywheel and spec stage 1 clutch (should have gone with stage 2, but 1 is doing just fine with grip, doesnt slip or anything.) but with in 500 miles it started clattering really bad. its to the point where its annoying the hell out of me. Can you replace your throw out bearing with out pulling the entire clutch system? my clutch only has 5,000 mile on it or so. im sure you guys will say pull it and put a ram or atleast a stage 2 in it. but due to the new born baby and new house funds are limited and this clutch functions fine. its just the throw out thats messing up. What are the options now? __________________ MM + Cleavage member #22

October 21st, 2009, 12:30 PM	#2
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	did you use the spec TOB in ???? If there is one thing i have learned here...never use an aftermarket TOB __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

October 21st, 2009, 01:37 PM	#3
Dolbs4082 I Blumpkin Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: kansas Posts: 6,649 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea i used the bearing that came in the kit. it sounds like that was a mistake on my behalf. Can i just replace that peice or do i have to put a new clutch in it? __________________ MM + Cleavage member #22

October 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM	#6
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	Spec is very hit or miss. You either get a piece of garbage or a great clutch from them. There is no consistency in the quality of their stuff. You will hear from some who love Spec and you will hear from others who hate spec. With the stage one its pretty common to hate the Spec clutch kits. They just dont get it done. Regardless always use a Ford tob. the aftermarket guys try to slim the bearing up and use light weight stuff to try to save weight, but by doing so the bearing just dont hold up as well. The Ford ones are big, beefy, clunky, and last forever. They are "built Ford tough." If you need to save money grab a new bearing and run that clutch into the ground. when it comes time for a new one look toward something more reliable like centerforce. Your only saving money if what you buy has the same lifespan as the expensive parts. Spec stage 1 does not last like a centerforce dual friction will. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM	#7
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	replacing your clutch? look no further. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

October 21st, 2009, 01:44 PM	#5
empyrials Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 reviews	On my DSM it didn't matter if i used an OEM or Spec TOB, it always rattled when i had a SPEC clutch in there Hopefully it's different for mustangs

October 21st, 2009, 09:25 PM	#8
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,855 iTrader: 8 reviews	most problem with people and spec is that people dont know how to break them in. the spec clutches dont like to be baby'd to be broke in, they like to have a fairly aggressive break in. spec's quality is great, it is consistent, nothing wrong with them at all. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner built! track times coming soon!(04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance follow shop builds on facebook at: MP2 Performance

October 21st, 2009, 09:51 PM	#9
zinc02GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,032 iTrader: 1 reviews	...And I'm gonna say the exact opposite of sweet2kstang. I hate spec with a passion. I wasted $300 some odd dollars on their bullshit quality parts. It's not your TOB, it's your clutch. The clutch is garbage. To replace the TOB, you have to drop the transmission again. Also, I'm using the RAM TOB in my car. I didn't have the money for the Ford TOB at the time. 18,000 miles later and not a single problem.

October 21st, 2009, 11:37 PM	#12
zinc02GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,032 iTrader: 1 reviews	Guess I must have hit it right then? I dunno. I did my clutch according to Ford's spec by their Workshop manual. I even used the grease they recommended...

October 22nd, 2009, 10:05 AM	#15
~C~ ~C~, The Other White Meat! Y2K YellowJacket GT ~TBD~ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West side B-More Posts: 1,623 iTrader: 2 reviews	Everyone loves and hates everything............ Except for Centerforce. Love mine. No problems with it all. __________________ BLOWN Bumblebeast! 370 rwhp / 381 ft lbs ~Tuned by JJ at WMS "Like the blind man says......We shall see...."

October 22nd, 2009, 10:06 AM	#16
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,855 iTrader: 8 reviews	^read post 13 __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner built! track times coming soon!(04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance follow shop builds on facebook at: MP2 Performance

October 22nd, 2009, 10:33 AM	#18
wishIhada5.0 April 2012 ROTM 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 4,638 iTrader: 0 reviews	FRPP is a nice heavy TOB...I like my centerforce alot...I dont however like the flywheel that I left unadressed when I changed the clutch lol so the tranny is on the floor...again lol Attached Thumbnails __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 Newest Project: 1996 F250 XL PSD SCLB ZF5...79k stock miles Rollin' Coal Crew Founder

October 22nd, 2009, 12:13 PM	#20
zinc02GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,032 iTrader: 1 reviews	You're supposed to get the flywheel resurfaced dude...

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