[norcalam2]

I guess I'm too new to post on current threads so I am forced to start a new one. IMHO this creates conflicts with the forum rules but hey not my forum.

Here goes.

I have a 99 black Mustang GT that currently has a billet grill, lowering springs, flowmasters, DIY spoiler backed up and 20" chrome rims. (I only listed things that affect styling and I will post pics tomorrow.)

my plans are as of now to:

ditch the 20's for some 18x9 and 18x10 black saleens. I will be painting the lip red aswell. Does anyone have opinions on fitment? Will I need spacers for an aggressive stance? Tire sizes? I plan on running 245/40's up front and 295/40 or 45 in the back.

Ditch the billet grill for a mach1 grill delete. I will make a custom bracket to hold a GT fender emblem far off to the left side. Probably paint it matte red too.

Black housing projector headlights w/ DIY Dark smoked lenses. I will be leaving the beam path lightly tinted so imagine 2 circles and a rectangle for the turn signal only slightly tinted. And then ofcourse HID's. I will be looking into modifying the highbeam to accept a hi/low bulb for dual lowbeam projectors. And I will NOT be utilizing the halo's.

Projector fogs (stock fitment type) probably with a yellow tint and low Kelvin HIDs.

Mach 1 front lip matte black.

Carbon Fiber cowl hood (mine has tons of clear coat cracks)

newer model side scoops (not sure when they started but I know 03-04's have em.)

and in the very distant future if I get really bored of the look I will get a CF trunk and go wingless and make a CF panel to replace my moon roof glass. And then I would look into mirrors.

But other than that I don't know of anything else I would want to do styling wise. I would like it lower but I won't sacrifice performance for it. So if anyone has any input please share. Also I come from the tuner world so if you think this setup seems too tunerish let me know. All opinions are welcome. I am currently debating on the CF look so tell me what you think.

[Pittbull]

Personally I like the side quater panel window scoops, gives it a unique look. Another thing that really sets it off is chrome lettering on the rear idk y Ford didn't do that straight from the factory. I agree on the Mach 1 chin spoilerdeffinatly, I want to get one for my pony but I can't decide if I wanna paint it or not..

[ForestGRN_Ghost]

Originally Posted by Pittbull Personally I like the side quater panel window scoops, gives it a unique look. Another thing that really sets it off is chrome lettering on the rear idk y Ford didn't do that straight from the factory. I agree on the Mach 1 chin spoilerdeffinatly, I want to get one for my pony but I can't decide if I wanna paint it or not..

chrome lettering

mach

side scoops ...maybe

1.Roush
2.Steeda
3.Saleen

in that order.

[Pittbull]

hOw can u not like the lettering? It's fuckin awesome. Did yo momma drop u on ur head when u were a baby?! haha

[dcook_14]

Originally Posted by norcalam2 Ditch the billet grill for a mach1 grill delete. I will make a custom bracket to hold a GT fender emblem far off to the left side. Probably paint it matte red too.

If you get the grille delete, I wouldn't put an emblem in there (unless you're turbot4 and put the autobot one in ) But if you do decide to put one in, center it in the grille. Matte red would look good though if you put an emblem in there.

Originally Posted by norcalam2 Black housing projector headlights w/ DIY Dark smoked lenses. I will be leaving the beam path lightly tinted so imagine 2 circles and a rectangle for the turn signal only slightly tinted. And then ofcourse HID's. I will be looking into modifying the highbeam to accept a hi/low bulb for dual lowbeam projectors. And I will NOT be utilizing the halo's. Projector fogs (stock fitment type) probably with a yellow tint and low Kelvin HIDs.

Projector headlights are pretty tunerish. IMO the only way they are going to look good is if you tint the hell out of them so you can't see the inside and tell that they are projector headlights. Stock black housing headlights with DIY tint look good though. With HID's of course to get light through the tint.

Originally Posted by norcalam2 Mach 1 front lip matte black. Carbon Fiber cowl hood (mine has tons of clear coat cracks) newer model side scoops (not sure when they started but I know 03-04's have em.) and in the very distant future if I get really bored of the look I will get a CF trunk and go wingless and make a CF panel to replace my moon roof glass. And then I would look into mirrors. .

Mach 1 lips look amazing on our GTs.

If you have a bunch of money then get carbon fiber parts. If not, go with fiberglass. Not very much more weight than a CF part, and usually half the price if not less.

Side scoops are up to you. If I ever switch mine I'm gonna go the mach 1 scoop delete route. Looks super clean.

If you're gonna switch mirrors, go with cobra mirrors.

Originally Posted by norcalam2 But other than that I don't know of anything else I would want to do styling wise. I would like it lower but I won't sacrifice performance for it. So if anyone has any input please share. Also I come from the tuner world so if you think this setup seems too tunerish let me know. All opinions are welcome. I am currently debating on the CF look so tell me what you think.

What kind of driving are you going to do. Lowering the car will basically only hurt straight line performance if you get a high spring rate. There are other considerations also, but that's the down and dirty answer. Unless you're going to drag race it all the time then lower it more. I know that Baker, a member on here, drags his car and his is lowered.

Originally Posted by Pittbull Personally I like the side quater panel window scoops, gives it a unique look. Another thing that really sets it off is chrome lettering on the rear idk y Ford didn't do that straight from the factory. I agree on the Mach 1 chin spoilerdeffinatly, I want to get one for my pony but I can't decide if I wanna paint it or not..

Side quarter panels are the last thing I would do (if ever...) to the car visually. I used to like em but the more I look at them, the more I hate them.

Chrome lettering on the rear what? Bumper? Trunk?
If you're talking about the chrome bumper inserts I think those look great.

[norcalam2]

Well,

I'm not a huge fan of the chrome lettering, I think I would remove it all together before I added inserts.

I like the look of the quarter window scoops but I don't like the Idea of adhesive mounting body parts.

I hate the look of ricey projector headlights on all cars let alone a mustang hence why I will be tinting everything BLACK minus 2 circles and the rectangle for turn signals which will be tinted aswell but not as dark. I like the oem tinted lenses for our cars but I don't like the look of reflector housing HID's. I fell in love with a sharp cutoff with my 240 which I made custom projector headlights for and feel that it would look super good on our cars if the housing was hidden by tint.

I don't plan on drag racing too much, I would like to get some more track experience with the stang before I add the whistle but even then I would just get my numbers and move on to road racing and daily driving. Although I say that now when I'm sure I will be doing alot of street racing in NC what with the Army base and all...

I will try to create a rendering of what I want my headlights to look like so you can all get an idea.

Does anyone have any pics of a black stang with a red lipped wheel? I haven't seen any but I think it would look sick with the stance.

[Pittbull]

Yeh the inserts for the 'mustang' lettering on the rear bumper, sorry I wasn't very specific ha.

I didn't like the idea of 3m automotive adhesive tape either and as a matter of fact my left scoop is coming off in some spots :-/ I dunno wat Ima do bout that...

[dcook_14]

If you're not going to drag race why are you worried about losing performance when you lower your car? Lowering springs have higher spring rates = better wheel rate = better handling

[dcook_14]

From what I've heard a staggered wheel setup like you plan will have adverse affects on your handling. Mustangs have horrible understeer anyway, and putting a wider tire in the back only makes it worse... looks cool though.

[mustang_gtr_99]

Mach delete is awsome, no lettering, scoops are cool (hate my 99's style), dont need spacers but would go with a 10.5 in the rear with a 315 tire. Oh yah, no quarter window scoops, they look horible on new edge stangs

[norcalam2]

My car is already lowered with eibachs and I meant all around performance, drag, road, daily driving etc. I like the look of lowered stangs but I think it's already low enough as is. I'm not saying I would bring it back to stock height just not go lower than I already am.

As far as the scoops coming off my friend used that as seen on tv super putty stuff on his roof scoop (not a stang) and it worked like a dream I would assume it will work just as well on window scoops.

I also hate the look of the 99 side scoops and I like the look of the newer ones better than the mach1 delete personally. I think the scoops are totally necessary to retain what ford was trying to do with the new edge.

And as far as the staggered wheels I've had enough tail out antics with my 240 and rx7 so understeer is a welcome trait to me.

What do you guys think about red "mustang" inserts? I've seen it done and I'm torn...

[suprajay79]

Whatever you think will look good, man. It's your car, you make it look how you want.

And to answer your question, I've never seen red lettering...

[Pittbull]

Red would look kool if ur car is black. Do u have like a color scheme in mind?

[Drick]

Please for the love of god do not get projector head lights

[Pittbull]

^^^ Hahaha

[quiksilver225]

i think carbon fiber looks fucking retarded. it looks childish. carbon fiber screams: "I am a high school kid trying to look like vin diesel" you might as well have stencils put over your tail lights so that they actually say exactly that.

grille deletes look sweet on black mustangs.

stay away from the jap look of the projector crap. with those and all the CF nonsense your gonna look like a riced out honda. just get a weird looking body kit that doesnt fit and you'll be complete, lol.

did i mention that i dont like carbon fiber?

[quiksilver225]

JINKEES SCOOBY! i figured it out. i just read your other thread and your long history of owning foreign cars, which explains a lot of the discisions your making here. american cars look dumb with foreign and edgy space age styling. Stick to an old school look and you cant lose here. Dont betray to styling of the country which you dedicated 5 years of your life defending. Welcome back to America, my friend. and welcome to the site!

[03_StangGuy]

Originally Posted by norcalam2 And as far as the staggered wheels I've had enough tail out antics with my 240 and rx7 so understeer is a welcome trait to me.

Are you saying that staggered wheel with reduce understeer? Your wrong. Wider wheels out back mean you have more grip out back and the front will break lose before the rear. Any rwd car will get tail happy if you push it to the limits, but bigger tires and more grip will help!

[norcalam2]

Son of a B*tch I need to adjust my settings for login periods! I just wrote a 3-4 paragraph reply which I will not be retyping.

Long and short, I've decided against CF anything.

I will be tinting my current headlights long before I fork over for any kind of aftermarket units. Maybe I'll fall in love maybe I wont.

I think upon seeing a rendering of my idea, you guys may have a different opinion on them, maybe not.

Thank you for the thoughts, they are appreciated.

Oh and I didn't say that staggered wheels would reduce understeer, I was saying I don't mind the understeer. After driving my RX7 with the 50/50 weight distribution the breaking point between understeer and oversteer often left me backwards around the cones so a more predictable handling vehicle regardless of understeer is a change for the better as far as daily driving and occasional track time.

[dcook_14]

Originally Posted by norcalam2 Son of a B*tch I need to adjust my settings for login periods! I just wrote a 3-4 paragraph reply which I will not be retyping. Long and short, I've decided against CF anything. I will be tinting my current headlights long before I fork over for any kind of aftermarket units. Maybe I'll fall in love maybe I wont. I think upon seeing a rendering of my idea, you guys may have a different opinion on them, maybe not. Thank you for the thoughts, they are appreciated. Oh and I didn't say that staggered wheels would reduce understeer, I was saying I don't mind the understeer. After driving my RX7 with the 50/50 weight distribution the breaking point between understeer and oversteer often left me backwards around the cones so a more predictable handling vehicle regardless of understeer is a change for the better as far as daily driving and occasional track time.

Ha ha. I used to do that too, but now I just click the remember me box so I'm logged in all the time.

Glad to hear you decided agains carbon fiber. And for the people that freak out that carbon fiber LOOKS stupid, it can be painted and it'll look just like a fiberglass one. But I agree, unpainted carbon fiber looks like Vin Diesel and Paul Walker ass pounded each other and had a checkered baby that was really light.

Just post up pics of your lights when they are done and let us judge then. Whatever people say, it's still your car and really only matters if YOU like it.

If you're welcoming understeer, more power to you. It's already driving me nuts though. I think understeer makes the car extremely unpredictable. Coupled with the lateral movement of the axle while cornering, well.... not good