[mrsinister2424]

Originally Posted by Pittbull mrsinister those seats r sick! how much u pay for em?? nice supra! ur not gonna believe me but i beat a '01 z06 8-) only bc he missed third tho... : haha i gotta a helluva laugh out of it

Thanks. 200 bucks.

Dude, a zo6? He must have missed first second and third. I drove a new 2010 grandsport. And that's rated at 430. That thing would walk my car even if it missed 3rd.

[Pittbull]

yeh man there sick i might pick me up some of those. u have a link to the site u bought em?

idk wat the hell he did, he's a fag rich kid i cant stand him

[Pittbull]

damnnn u drove one?! i bet that was nicee. i'd like to drive a vett but if it were up to me id still go with the GT500 8-)

[mrsinister2424]

They're pretty similar to the summit seats. I bought them from a guy on craigslist though... Sold my seats for 300, and bought new seats for 200. Beware, brackets are needed to make them work(PITA).

I'd only go with a vette over a gt500 if it was a c6 zo6.

[Pittbull]

ohh ok i gotcha. ima def look into it tho, cuz those r nice. ive been lookin at corbeu but they r frickin expensive

[mrbigjeep]

blah blah, its all a matter of opinion. if someone says you could have boost for the money you put into bolt ons...well guess what? you could have nitrous for way cheaper than a supercharger and have more torque to boot...who cares. build what you want and how you want it.

[ModMustang97GT]

Yeah screw Internal Combustion. Get a turbine engine and be done with it. Screw engines. Solid propellant rocket boosters! Teleporters! YEAH who needs bolt ons when you can teleport!






Wait, a little off subject?

[pyschopath76]

^^^ LOL!!! teleportation!!??!!??

[Ke^in]

Originally Posted by Supra bolt ons arent worth it imo. unless your preparing for a supercharger! (tb/plenum, L/Ts). Cold air intake is worthless imo, along with underdrive pullies. And im still not sold on those aluminum driveshafts.

No, no and no.

While bolt-ons give little HP improvement (10hp etc) adding them all together will get you up there.

[Ke^in]

Originally Posted by Pittbull oh my fuck! y r u saying bolt ons r a waste?!?! ur retarded man im sorry but it all works together and makes ur engine perform better period. and some of us cant afford superchargers ya digg?

Plus 1

[ajm]

Originally Posted by Ke^in No, no and no. While bolt-ons give little HP improvement (10hp etc) adding them all together will get you up there.

I donno what everyone else means by calling them a waste but heres how I look at it for them being a "waste". Sure they add power and do your car good but financially for the power you make its a waste. Add up the following.

CAI - 200
tb/plenum - 200+
pulleys - 200
catback - 3-400
midpipe or headers/midpipe - 200-500+
gears (seems like most people with "full bolt ons" have gears?) - $200
labor on the above for most + parts - $300+

The list goes on anyways my point is add up the above with the lowest costs youre looking at $1600, highest price $2220. To not even make 300 to the wheels. If you play your cards right you can get a supercharger for around that price and make way more power. THEN when you add the simple little bolts on youll see better gains.

Each to their own though, I guess we all see things differently.

[ajm]

Originally Posted by Mathos1 Down heeere in TeexIs we breed 'em Mach's like chikin's! lol ... No for real though, there's one for sale every 2 blocks haha.. Gt's and Cobras not so much.. but especially Fbody's, almost everyone here in the valley has a stupid camaro or a firebird.. but personally i think they're FUGLY.. they might be faster...ish... but man, i honestly think Stangs are gorgeous pony cars compared to chevys.. and its fun to try to mess with our 281's more!

^^ Speaks the truth... Where you from in the valley?

[Ke^in]

My car wont be a 1/4 racer. It's a daily driver. A few bolt ons here and there makes things more fun and don't = a waste.

Now, if you want a super fast beast of a car that does 11s? I would start with FI then move on.

[ajm]

Nor will mine. Its simply a street car/dd. But as said, I wasnt trying to be an ass or be negative in any way. I was just throwing that out there as to why people *may* thing bolt ons are a waste.

[MikeJones]

ok after thinking and going through observations and considering my future build this is what my winter plans are.

mild weight reduction
Diff cover
shifter, check
31 spline axles
31 spline LSD, check
3.73
BBK cold air
alluminum driveshaft
midpipe
maximum motorsports rear lower control arms
subframe connectors

Maybe a catback... depends on what im at for money as i only spend 500 a month on my car during winter..

This will add a little power and is considerative for the future swap.
next winter is going to be all suspension. and probably the next two summers. then engine.

[Pittbull]

Just depends on wat u wana do with it

[dragrace4fun]

As far as bolt-on definition goes, I've always considered it anything that can be removed/installed strictly by simple bolt-on action to add power/release constraint of power; no internals to engine or fluid-filled parts such as heads, cams, or gears...no major disassembly such as removing the transmission to put in a clutch. That's always been my understanding. My two cents...

[mrbigjeep]

Originally Posted by ajm I donno what everyone else means by calling them a waste but heres how I look at it for them being a "waste". Sure they add power and do your car good but financially for the power you make its a waste. Add up the following. CAI - 200 tb/plenum - 200+ pulleys - 200 catback - 3-400 midpipe or headers/midpipe - 200-500+ gears (seems like most people with "full bolt ons" have gears?) - $200 labor on the above for most + parts - $300+ The list goes on anyways my point is add up the above with the lowest costs youre looking at $1600, highest price $2220. To not even make 300 to the wheels. If you play your cards right you can get a supercharger for around that price and make way more power. THEN when you add the simple little bolts on youll see better gains. Each to their own though, I guess we all see things differently.

you speak of doing the "simple little bolt ons" after the supercharger (you say "THEN")...so whats the difference in doing them before and then doing the s/c or doing them after the s/c?? either way you spend the same money and make the same power after both are installed...i just don't understand how it would be a waste if you wanna get a s/c later. either way you will be adding the bolt ons so whats it matter if you do it before and then they're already done when you get the s/c...jmo on this and just curious

and for way less than a s/c you could spray the car and make just as much hp and more torque.

[Pittbull]

^^^ my point exactly. When you have a car and enjoy modding, like we all do, nothing us a 'waste'. Some people like steeda CAI's and some people like a wet shot of Zex. Watever u do to ur cAr, other than paint it blue and green and put cheap ass walmart brand spinners on it, IS an investment and if it's wat u like to do with ur money then that's great. SO bolt ons are good s/c's are good. If is makes u look good and/or makes u go faster then it's good for Christ sake 8-)

[RALVAREZ26]

Originally Posted by Supra Hence why i put "IMO". you dont have to agree with me. Bolt ons add up real quick, and for the amount of power your actually gaining, to me isnt really worth it. But everything except udp and cai will benefit you if you do decide to go FI

well, your opinion sucks! i spent less than $1000 piecing ALL my bolt-ons on my sig and got 45rwhp out of them, which isnt bad at all. i know some on this board spend 1000 just to get headers or spend the money on cosmetic shit that looks stupid on their 'stang.