So this is what my mustang is supposed to feel like!!

norcalam2 · November 10th, 2009, 03:37 AM

So as you may know I recently picked up a 99 mustang gt that was running like absolute dogshit.

When I was stuck in the rice cooker I had multiple 300whp+ turbo'd cars so naturally I figured my mustang wouldn't be able to satisfy me like my imports did.

When I picked up the stang it had 3 bad cops (1 that wasn't working at all), a bad EVR and an exhaust leak(I immediately installed a stok hpipe for smog).
I replaced all the cops and plugs, EVR and now I'm running my bassani X pipe. I also did the DIY gas pedal mod and the IAC restrictor mod. I'm also running 3.90's. And well I have to say that even though my estimated 280ish (correct me if I'm wrong) rwhp is a far cry from the 334rwhp I was running in my 240 my stang is absolutely more of a kick In the pants to drive. With the gears and torque it feels as if I would have gotten my 240 by atleast a fender from 0-80. I know I had alot of lag and taller gearing in my 240 but damn. The stang just feels like a beast!

Mods:
3.90's
CAI
Bassani catted X-pipe
flowmaster 40's
subframe connectors
eibachs
IAC mod
Gas pedal mod

I can't wait for new wheels&tires and a tune!! I'm almost scared! My imports were so well mannered and sophisticated while my mustang feels like a wild fucking monster! BTW V8 with header back exhaust sound FTMFW!!! Sounds soooo much better than the best imports!!

And for those of you that would say "what about the 350z?" my friends V6 stang with header back exhaust sounds almost exactly like one!

DiZzyBonne · November 10th, 2009, 03:47 AM

Welcome to the dark side!

v606er · November 10th, 2009, 04:00 AM

DickH · November 10th, 2009, 04:12 AM

Yeah I let a guy who was big into foreign cars drive my car and he said the v8 was nice as it just felt like raw power. I thought it was funny to watch him drive my car, after a while he was very into it and I wouldn't be surprised if he has one now. Welcome to the site, welcome to the v8 side.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 10th, 2009, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by DiZzyBonne

Welcome to the dark side!

+1

i traded my honda for my stang

spetsnaz103 · November 10th, 2009, 05:29 AM

welcome to the mustang world.

California Mustang Club

Jakashh · November 10th, 2009, 05:49 AM

Nice car but I don't think you have 280 with just those mods

and yeah these things are torquey

SteviGX · November 10th, 2009, 08:18 AM

240-250 to the whels...feels nice doesn't it? I can't wait to get my gears done...i've only had them for almost 2 years. haha

XectriK · November 10th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Just wait until you get some of that cash monies into suspension. Then it will really feel like its supposed to feel like. You could have close to 280 at the flywheel but I don't think you're quite there yet.

asiansensation78 · November 10th, 2009, 08:55 AM

haha I had the same reaction when I came over from imports. I'd guess you have 240~250 rwhp right now but once you stray over 300 it will be a beast to drive

wishIhada5.0 · November 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM

torque below 6k rpm is nice huh? lol welcome to the party....throw a twin screw on it...you'll see in the neighborhood of 400 ft/lbs at 2000+ rpm...post up some pics broski!

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Welcome, I was converted from v6 to v8 so I know the feeling

acmillr · November 10th, 2009, 11:41 AM

280?

I would be SHOCKED if your car made over 230 to the wheel.

norcalam2 · November 10th, 2009, 12:56 PM

Well it fuckin feels like 280 damn it! Lol! I can't imagine 240ish rwhp feeling like this. I guess 240rwhp and 36lbft in a 4banger is alot different than 240 and 200+! Lol.

Can anyone tell me what kind of numbers I should be looking at in the 1/4? I don't mean like "what will my car run?" I mean what kind of numbers should I be shooting for? What's a good 60ft with cheaper 305/45's? I'm a decent launch but with all this lowend I'm sure I'll be a noob again.

Anyways I will be taking her to the track before too long.

asiansensation78 · November 10th, 2009, 12:59 PM

With some practice you should be able to hit around a 2 second 60' and mid to high 13's

ReverendDexter · November 10th, 2009, 01:12 PM

One thing you have to look at is where in the rpm range you're seeing your power and torque, you can't just compare peak hp to peak hp and expect that to be an effective comparison.

Even just the peak hp:peak tq numbers can be telling - Mustangs make a LOT more tq per hp than a Honda does! And other than an N/A 4v, they make it a lot lower in the power band. Just look at a stock 5.0 - it's "only" 225hp, but it's close to 300 ft-lbs of torque, and that torque is at something like 2500 rpm. That means NO waiting for power.

Now don't get me wrong, I like both, and it takes a LOT to make a pre-'05 Mustang handle worth a damn. I usually have both a Mustang and a rwd import of some sort in the driveway as they both fulfill different needs/wants. My most favoritest car to drive around town was my AE86, but I would NEVER consider driving it to LA and back like I just did in the Cobra.

Enjoy your car, man

norcalam2 · November 10th, 2009, 03:46 PM

Ya a well tuned hachi is fun to drive. Especially wide open sideways around a turn! I don't know though with these shitty wheels and tires my stang almost drifts itself. I had some fun in an empty parking lot last night and the stang is so much easier to get sideways just a little harder to control. I kept losing it from 2nd to 3rd but low speed 2nd gear only I was connecting 5+ drifts with little to no effort. It's nice to not need to ebrake or clutch a drift!! Does anyone else drift these things? It's sooooo fuckin easy. I'll have to take some video or something cause I had a much easier time keeping my lines. Especially with the DIY gas pedal mod!

ReverendDexter · November 10th, 2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by norcalam2

I don't know though with these shitty wheels and tires my stang almost drifts itself.

Blame that on REALLY, REALLY crappy rear suspension design. Absolutely atrocious, hahaha. The lateral location of the rear axle is really sloppy, so as you kick back and forth it moves about 2" left-right relative to the chassis.

Most of the drift Mustangs I see are either S197s like what Von Gittin Jr or Tony B. drives (which have a redesigned rear suspension from the '04 and earlier cars), or they have full Griggs Racing GR40 setups (What's-his-name in Pro Am... Pena, I think).

ModMustang97GT · November 10th, 2009, 04:08 PM

The torque is rpetty awesome. Just wait till you race someone and don't bother to down shift cause you feel lazy. So nice to beat on the honda's and other imports with torque.

As far as handling, a bout $1000 into your current suspension and your car will hang with your old 240 easy. A little more and it will own your 240. The only thing the 240 has in the end is weight, and its easy to overcome that when your car will hit 130 mph in 4th.

Pittbull · November 10th, 2009, 04:14 PM

um excuse me but a stock GT has 260rwhp idc wat all this shit is about 'to the wheels' power. 260 horsepower is 260 horsepower my friends. the end.

i kno a guy who drives a Prelude and he thinks its the shit but after he drove my car he doesnt talk much about his little rice burner 8-)

November 10th, 2009, 03:37 AM	#1
norcalam2 Hardcore Enthusiast 99 GT & 05 GSXR 750 next year Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harnett County, NC Posts: 1,106 iTrader: 1 reviews	So this is what my mustang is supposed to feel like!! So as you may know I recently picked up a 99 mustang gt that was running like absolute dogshit. When I was stuck in the rice cooker I had multiple 300whp+ turbo'd cars so naturally I figured my mustang wouldn't be able to satisfy me like my imports did. When I picked up the stang it had 3 bad cops (1 that wasn't working at all), a bad EVR and an exhaust leak(I immediately installed a stok hpipe for smog). I replaced all the cops and plugs, EVR and now I'm running my bassani X pipe. I also did the DIY gas pedal mod and the IAC restrictor mod. I'm also running 3.90's. And well I have to say that even though my estimated 280ish (correct me if I'm wrong) rwhp is a far cry from the 334rwhp I was running in my 240 my stang is absolutely more of a kick In the pants to drive. With the gears and torque it feels as if I would have gotten my 240 by atleast a fender from 0-80. I know I had alot of lag and taller gearing in my 240 but damn. The stang just feels like a beast! Mods: 3.90's CAI Bassani catted X-pipe flowmaster 40's subframe connectors eibachs IAC mod Gas pedal mod I can't wait for new wheels&tires and a tune!! I'm almost scared! My imports were so well mannered and sophisticated while my mustang feels like a wild fucking monster! BTW V8 with header back exhaust sound FTMFW!!! Sounds soooo much better than the best imports!! And for those of you that would say "what about the 350z?" my friends V6 stang with header back exhaust sounds almost exactly like one!

November 10th, 2009, 03:47 AM	#2
DiZzyBonne Enthusiast 2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area Posts: 933 iTrader: 2 reviews	Welcome to the dark side! __________________ Current mods: Maximum Motorsports XL Full Length Subframe Connectors Catted Bassani X-Pipe Borla Stinger Catbacks H&R Super Sport Springs MM Bullitt Crew Founder and Member #1

November 10th, 2009, 04:12 AM	#4
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 3,948 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yeah I let a guy who was big into foreign cars drive my car and he said the v8 was nice as it just felt like raw power. I thought it was funny to watch him drive my car, after a while he was very into it and I wouldn't be surprised if he has one now. Welcome to the site, welcome to the v8 side. __________________ Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time. Click here for your tuning needs My slow paced budget 5.4 dohc build

November 10th, 2009, 05:29 AM	#6
spetsnaz103 Regular 2003 Ford Mustang Gt Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 reviews	welcome to the mustang world. California Mustang Club __________________ 1. MAC Cold Air Intake 2. BBK 70mm Throttle Body 3. Trickflow Plenum 4. BBK Shorty Headers 5. Bassani O/R Xpipe 6. Slp Lm1s 7. Cobra Front Brakes 8. Richmond 4.10's 9. Sniper Tuned SOON TO GET=SUSPENSION

November 10th, 2009, 05:49 AM	#7
Jakashh hello Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,441 iTrader: 1 reviews	Nice car but I don't think you have 280 with just those mods and yeah these things are torquey __________________ "It's okay to eat fish 'Cause they don't have any feelings. Something in the way, mmm Something in the way, yeah, mmm" -Kurt Cobain

November 10th, 2009, 08:18 AM	#8
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,545 iTrader: 2 reviews	240-250 to the whels...feels nice doesn't it? I can't wait to get my gears done...i've only had them for almost 2 years. haha __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

November 10th, 2009, 08:48 AM	#9
XectriK Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,719 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just wait until you get some of that cash monies into suspension. Then it will really feel like its supposed to feel like. You could have close to 280 at the flywheel but I don't think you're quite there yet. __________________

November 10th, 2009, 08:55 AM	#10
asiansensation78 Too Soon, Junior! 03 GT Vert 15:43.28@25.21 Too many naked bitches in the back Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,697 iTrader: 4 reviews	haha I had the same reaction when I came over from imports. I'd guess you have 240~250 rwhp right now but once you stray over 300 it will be a beast to drive __________________ 03 GT - Scrapes on lane markers - Modded 02 Cougar - Able to clear most speed bumps - Some mods 01 Explorer - Parking blocks NOM NOM NOM - Stock

November 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM	#11
wishIhada5.0 MM Fanatic 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 3,414 iTrader: 0 reviews	torque below 6k rpm is nice huh? lol welcome to the party....throw a twin screw on it...you'll see in the neighborhood of 400 ft/lbs at 2000+ rpm...post up some pics broski! __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno looking for block busting power...cms stage 3 blower cams on the horizon..[/

November 10th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#12
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	Welcome, I was converted from v6 to v8 so I know the feeling __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 11:41 AM	#13
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	280? I would be SHOCKED if your car made over 230 to the wheel. __________________

November 10th, 2009, 12:56 PM	#14
norcalam2 Hardcore Enthusiast 99 GT & 05 GSXR 750 next year Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harnett County, NC Posts: 1,106 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well it fuckin feels like 280 damn it! Lol! I can't imagine 240ish rwhp feeling like this. I guess 240rwhp and 36lbft in a 4banger is alot different than 240 and 200+! Lol. Can anyone tell me what kind of numbers I should be looking at in the 1/4? I don't mean like "what will my car run?" I mean what kind of numbers should I be shooting for? What's a good 60ft with cheaper 305/45's? I'm a decent launch but with all this lowend I'm sure I'll be a noob again. Anyways I will be taking her to the track before too long.

November 10th, 2009, 12:59 PM	#15
asiansensation78 Too Soon, Junior! 03 GT Vert 15:43.28@25.21 Too many naked bitches in the back Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,697 iTrader: 4 reviews	With some practice you should be able to hit around a 2 second 60' and mid to high 13's __________________ 03 GT - Scrapes on lane markers - Modded 02 Cougar - Able to clear most speed bumps - Some mods 01 Explorer - Parking blocks NOM NOM NOM - Stock

November 10th, 2009, 01:12 PM	#16
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,233 iTrader: 0 reviews	One thing you have to look at is where in the rpm range you're seeing your power and torque, you can't just compare peak hp to peak hp and expect that to be an effective comparison. Even just the peak hp:peak tq numbers can be telling - Mustangs make a LOT more tq per hp than a Honda does! And other than an N/A 4v, they make it a lot lower in the power band. Just look at a stock 5.0 - it's "only" 225hp, but it's close to 300 ft-lbs of torque, and that torque is at something like 2500 rpm. That means NO waiting for power. Now don't get me wrong, I like both, and it takes a LOT to make a pre-'05 Mustang handle worth a damn. I usually have both a Mustang and a rwd import of some sort in the driveway as they both fulfill different needs/wants. My most favoritest car to drive around town was my AE86, but I would NEVER consider driving it to LA and back like I just did in the Cobra. Enjoy your car, man __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\ Buy my Bronco, special deal for MM folks

November 10th, 2009, 03:46 PM	#17
norcalam2 Hardcore Enthusiast 99 GT & 05 GSXR 750 next year Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harnett County, NC Posts: 1,106 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ya a well tuned hachi is fun to drive. Especially wide open sideways around a turn! I don't know though with these shitty wheels and tires my stang almost drifts itself. I had some fun in an empty parking lot last night and the stang is so much easier to get sideways just a little harder to control. I kept losing it from 2nd to 3rd but low speed 2nd gear only I was connecting 5+ drifts with little to no effort. It's nice to not need to ebrake or clutch a drift!! Does anyone else drift these things? It's sooooo fuckin easy. I'll have to take some video or something cause I had a much easier time keeping my lines. Especially with the DIY gas pedal mod!

November 10th, 2009, 04:08 PM	#19
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	The torque is rpetty awesome. Just wait till you race someone and don't bother to down shift cause you feel lazy. So nice to beat on the honda's and other imports with torque. As far as handling, a bout $1000 into your current suspension and your car will hang with your old 240 easy. A little more and it will own your 240. The only thing the 240 has in the end is weight, and its easy to overcome that when your car will hit 130 mph in 4th. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark 04' PI Motor Author of The Official Suspension Guide

November 10th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#20
Pittbull I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2001 Mustang GT If you're not first you're last Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,886 iTrader: 6 reviews	um excuse me but a stock GT has 260rwhp idc wat all this shit is about 'to the wheels' power. 260 horsepower is 260 horsepower my friends. the end. i kno a guy who drives a Prelude and he thinks its the shit but after he drove my car he doesnt talk much about his little rice burner 8-) __________________ Stock Rear Springs FOR SALE! PM Me Stock 99-04 GT Exhaust Manifolds FOR SALE! PM Me

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