so confused?!?!?!?

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM

So I am getting some mixed info but, I think I understand it well so here is the question(s).... If doing a motor swap from my 4.6 2V to a 4.6 4V I would have to change out the ECU from the mach 1 or termi correct?? If I was swaping my 4.6 2V to a 5.4 2V I would not have to change the ECU???

Dolbs4082 · November 10th, 2009, 01:14 PM

I think thats correct, i almost think i read somewhere where you can maybe use yours but you have to do alot of customizing? not sure.

Boostang · November 10th, 2009, 01:43 PM

you can use your stock GT computer on both.. you will have too extend 3 of ur COP's.. i get IMRC deletes..
you can use yor comp on the 5.4 also

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 01:52 PM

what are COP's?? IMRC???

Boostang · November 10th, 2009, 01:55 PM

coil on plug wires..
your spark plug wire lol..
but the imrc is a plate that sits between the intake and the head on the cobras.. i really dunno the real meaning of it..
but a gt computer can not run the imrc so thats why u need the deletes

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 02:01 PM

thats easy I guess?? What other small things will I need to do a swap?? special tools?

Boostang · November 10th, 2009, 02:07 PM

no special tools really needed unless you use the spec tool too time it..
but if u get the WHOLE motor then youll have basically everything.. youll need a throttle cable, 96-98 cobra intake, hmmm thats all i can think of right now..

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 02:12 PM

why 96-98 cobra intake, and my throttle cable wont work?? If I went from 2V to 4V and I didn't get the WHOLe motor what is transferable from my motor to the 4V and what would I need?

Boostang · November 10th, 2009, 02:42 PM

cause the mark intake sucks.. and thats the only other intake that will bolt too the b port heads.. and no ur throttle cable is to short. and basically nothing will transfer from the 2v too the 4v.. you have the use the heads ,intake ,throtttle body ,air intake, timing cover. and other major stuff like that.. you can still use ur radiator tho.. lol

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM

cool thanx

dcook_14 · November 10th, 2009, 04:50 PM

What all is needed for wiring if you install a complete mark viii motor (with cobra intake and intake cams)?

hollagraphik · November 10th, 2009, 06:39 PM

the 2v harness wont work for a 4v motor. if you want to do a 4v swap you need pretty much the entire motor like boostang said, cuz there isnt much you can use from the 2v. as for the 5.4 2v you can use the stock ECU but im not sure of anything else outside that. ask 330cubeGT for more info about the 5.4 swap, he be da man!

dcook_14 · November 10th, 2009, 07:31 PM

Whew, I was hoping someone would jump in here and say that you have to use the 4v computer with the 4v engine. I didn't think you could use our computers to run a 4v engine, but I didn't wanna say it and be completely wrong. Course that wouldn't be the first time...

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 07:50 PM

do some research lmfao JK

dcook_14 · November 10th, 2009, 08:01 PM

I have been doing my research, I was just hoping I hadn't read false information.

huggy bear · November 10th, 2009, 08:03 PM

sorry had to give you a hard time for harshly busting my balls when I was inquireing(sp) about the KB. no hard feelings though.

limited · November 10th, 2009, 11:15 PM

you can use your computer for 99+ 4v, that use coil on plugs. you will need a different computer if your running coil packs(B heads).

dcook_14 · November 11th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by huggy bear

sorry had to give you a hard time for harshly busting my balls when I was inquireing(sp) about the KB. no hard feelings though.

No worries man, gotta learn this stuff one way or another

November 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM	#1
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	so confused?!?!?!? So I am getting some mixed info but, I think I understand it well so here is the question(s).... If doing a motor swap from my 4.6 2V to a 4.6 4V I would have to change out the ECU from the mach 1 or termi correct?? If I was swaping my 4.6 2V to a 5.4 2V I would not have to change the ECU??? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#2
Dolbs4082 I Blumpkin Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: kansas Posts: 5,958 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think thats correct, i almost think i read somewhere where you can maybe use yours but you have to do alot of customizing? not sure. __________________ MM + Cleavage member #22

November 10th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#4
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	what are COP's?? IMRC??? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#6
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats easy I guess?? What other small things will I need to do a swap?? special tools? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 02:12 PM	#8
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	why 96-98 cobra intake, and my throttle cable wont work?? If I went from 2V to 4V and I didn't get the WHOLe motor what is transferable from my motor to the 4V and what would I need? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 01:43 PM	#3
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can use your stock GT computer on both.. you will have too extend 3 of ur COP's.. i get IMRC deletes.. you can use yor comp on the 5.4 also

November 10th, 2009, 01:55 PM	#5
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	coil on plug wires.. your spark plug wire lol.. but the imrc is a plate that sits between the intake and the head on the cobras.. i really dunno the real meaning of it.. but a gt computer can not run the imrc so thats why u need the deletes

November 10th, 2009, 02:07 PM	#7
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	no special tools really needed unless you use the spec tool too time it.. but if u get the WHOLE motor then youll have basically everything.. youll need a throttle cable, 96-98 cobra intake, hmmm thats all i can think of right now..

November 10th, 2009, 02:42 PM	#9
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	cause the mark intake sucks.. and thats the only other intake that will bolt too the b port heads.. and no ur throttle cable is to short. and basically nothing will transfer from the 2v too the 4v.. you have the use the heads ,intake ,throtttle body ,air intake, timing cover. and other major stuff like that.. you can still use ur radiator tho.. lol

November 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#10
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	cool thanx __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#11
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	What all is needed for wiring if you install a complete mark viii motor (with cobra intake and intake cams)? __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

November 10th, 2009, 06:39 PM	#12
hollagraphik Regular 2004 Mustang GT Shake ñ Bake! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chuck County FTW! Posts: 152 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 2v harness wont work for a 4v motor. if you want to do a 4v swap you need pretty much the entire motor like boostang said, cuz there isnt much you can use from the 2v. as for the 5.4 2v you can use the stock ECU but im not sure of anything else outside that. ask 330cubeGT for more info about the 5.4 swap, he be da man! __________________ 40th anniversary GT - MGW, SCTX3 93oct, K&N Intake, MAC Prochamber, MAC Catback, March UDP, Mach 1 grille delete, 6k HIDs Future Mods: 03-04 Cobra!

November 10th, 2009, 07:31 PM	#13
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	Whew, I was hoping someone would jump in here and say that you have to use the 4v computer with the 4v engine. I didn't think you could use our computers to run a 4v engine, but I didn't wanna say it and be completely wrong. Course that wouldn't be the first time... __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

November 10th, 2009, 07:50 PM	#14
huggy bear Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT .23333333 minutes Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Inbetween a rock and a hard place Posts: 536 iTrader: 0 reviews	do some research lmfao JK __________________ 2001 Mustang GT: 10.5 bullit rims, straight pipes, 180 degree t-stat, rear upper control arms, power slot rotors, hawk pads. fml

November 10th, 2009, 08:01 PM	#15
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	I have been doing my research, I was just hoping I hadn't read false information. __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

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