Sub and rear seat delete

trueblue02GT · November 19th, 2009, 04:33 PM

well considering i'm taking out the rear seats and adding most likely one 10 inch sub, box, and amp, it will be pretty close to when i had the seats in, maybe a little more. and more direct weight in the back will help with traction!

dcook_14 · November 19th, 2009, 05:22 PM

I can almost guarantee you that the subs will not weigh even close to the amount that the rear seat did. Depending on how you build the RSD and I bet you'll be lighter overall in the back end.

M.P. Cobra Fan · November 19th, 2009, 05:30 PM

What does the rear seat weigh? They don't seem to weigh much of shit in a vert, and I know the last coupe I did was pretty damn light as well.

supermachone · November 19th, 2009, 05:44 PM

i say keep your seats man, i have 2 12's in the back facing the trunk and i just fold my seats down and that shit rocks

u never know when u'll need ur seats, for instance im going to have a kid, i need my back seats lol

mrsinister2424 · November 19th, 2009, 07:36 PM

Just don't even get sub(s). Weighs your car down, and in a few years you'll end up taking them out. If you really feel the need for a sub, get a 10, NOT a 12. Mustangs are much too small for a 12. I had a Kicker l5 solobaric 12" sub in my trunk(nearly impossible to fit), and it was just too much, took it out about 6 months ago, sold it for money for more go fast parts.. Never looked back.

Do a seat delete though! And the car looks nice my friend!

mrsinister2424 · November 19th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by dcook_14

I can almost guarantee you that the subs will not weigh even close to the amount that the rear seat did. Depending on how you build the RSD and I bet you'll be lighter overall in the back end.

I actually have to disagree with you for once. Taking out the rear seats, with brackets and seat belts nets about 50-60 lbs MAX. The rear seat delete if made from MDF will probably weigh about 20lbs if covered in carpet base case scenario. On top of the 2 or 4 gauge wiring needed to run the sub, plus the amp and the sub itself... That's going to be AT LEAST 50-60lbs. Hell, my 12" l5 I had weighed 50 lbs by itself, not including the amp, capacitor and wiring.

supermachone · November 19th, 2009, 07:52 PM

yeah but its his personal car, u want ur daily driver to be enjoyable, i could see if he wanted to strip it down and make it a track car but i doubt thats his plan, so i wouldnt worry about weight honestly

dcook_14 · November 19th, 2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by mrsinister2424

I actually have to disagree with you for once. Taking out the rear seats, with brackets and seat belts nets about 50-60 lbs MAX. The rear seat delete if made from MDF will probably weigh about 20lbs if covered in carpet base case scenario. On top of the 2 or 4 gauge wiring needed to run the sub, plus the amp and the sub itself... That's going to be AT LEAST 50-60lbs. Hell, my 12" l5 I had weighed 50 lbs by itself, not including the amp, capacitor and wiring.

Yeah, depending on how much the RSD weight and what you make it out of it might be the same or less. I guess I shouldn't have said it in such a broad way.

Let's put it this way. My RSD and 2 10" subs that I put in weigh less than the rear seat and brackets that I took out

trueblue02GT · November 19th, 2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by supermachone

yeah but its his personal car, u want ur daily driver to be enjoyable, i could see if he wanted to strip it down and make it a track car but i doubt thats his plan, so i wouldnt worry about weight honestly

yeah exactly i drive this fuckin thing everywhere and im sick of no bass lol. as of right now im thinkin il make a rear seat delete out of the lightest weight shit i can find and put a JL 10w7 in the trunk

CammedMysticCobra · November 19th, 2009, 11:41 PM

I would have to agree with going custom on this one and deflty make sure your turn the speaker side upside so back of speaker or the magnet is facing into cabin.

supermachone · November 20th, 2009, 12:57 AM

yeah u could make a really stylish set up goin custom

trueblue02GT · November 20th, 2009, 02:58 AM

what's the most lightweight yet sturdy material I can use? im worried im gona do a crap job on this but oh well.

~C~ · November 20th, 2009, 10:10 AM

I had a custom box made to fit in the back of my trunk with two 10" subs. Sounds fantastic. They are bottom firing. I wouldnt expose them in the RSD.

dcook_14 · November 20th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by trueblue02GT

what's the most lightweight yet sturdy material I can use? im worried im gona do a crap job on this but oh well.

For the RSD I used big sheets of aluminum and it's super light. I wraped my carpet a good 4" over all the edges so that the carpet would be a "rattle barrier" when I put it in. I also attached some 2x2 wooden brace legs in strategic areas so that someone could sit on it if absolutely necessary. Those sheets of aluminum are pretty spendy but I get the hookup.

MDF is probably going to be your best bet. Particle board will be lighter (it's less dense) but not as strong. I guess you might be able to use particle board and brace the bottom of it. Why do you need it to be that strong?

You're going to want to use MDF for the box. Hands down the best option.

trueblue02GT · November 20th, 2009, 05:20 PM

i'll probably buy a box. i don't need the rsd to be that strong, but someone might need to sit on it one day just in case.

gray8188 · November 22nd, 2009, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by trueblue02GT

what's the most lightweight yet sturdy material I can use? im worried im gona do a crap job on this but oh well.

Be careful dont make the box too light.. I have a 10in w7 in mine now and you have to build the box rite and brace it rite.. Its a heavy sub but damn do they sound great.. Heres mine its nothing special i was gonna do a fg enclosure but i wanted it to be easier to take out for when i go to the track. But its a built to spec slot ported enclosure that is braced properly and sounds awesome..

Molitor · November 23rd, 2009, 05:23 AM

JL makes great subs IMO, its all I have ever really bought sub wise. I have 2 JL W3 12inch and they are great, I may upgrade to W6's tho. I have heard a 10inch JL W7 on my old car, and it blew my 2 Type R's out of the water, been a JL fan ever since lol

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 23rd, 2009, 10:32 AM

12's over 10's everyday of the week for me.

and custom box. IF you know what your doing.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 23rd, 2009, 10:35 AM

off subject. trueblueGT.
your car looks great. at least from your sig.

i need to post new pics of mine i have much better pics

trueblue02GT · November 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM

lol thanks. at least in my sig? ass haha, thers more in another post i have

November 19th, 2009, 05:30 PM	#23
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ft Stewart/Naples/Hampton/Tampa Posts: 11,075 iTrader: 1 reviews	What does the rear seat weigh? They don't seem to weigh much of shit in a vert, and I know the last coupe I did was pretty damn light as well. __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E5 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

November 19th, 2009, 05:44 PM	#24
supermachone MM Fanatic 2004 GT Kessel Run @ Less Than 12 Parsecs Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,698 iTrader: 2 reviews	i say keep your seats man, i have 2 12's in the back facing the trunk and i just fold my seats down and that shit rocks u never know when u'll need ur seats, for instance im going to have a kid, i need my back seats lol __________________

November 19th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#25
mrsinister2424 Hardcore Enthusiast 99' Mustang GT 3214@OVER 9000!!! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 2,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just don't even get sub(s). Weighs your car down, and in a few years you'll end up taking them out. If you really feel the need for a sub, get a 10, NOT a 12. Mustangs are much too small for a 12. I had a Kicker l5 solobaric 12" sub in my trunk(nearly impossible to fit), and it was just too much, took it out about 6 months ago, sold it for money for more go fast parts.. Never looked back. Do a seat delete though! And the car looks nice my friend! __________________ 99' Rio Red Mustang GT: --My Garage-- Check garage. Vortech V-1 intercooled running 9lbs of boost Life= eat, lift, eat, eat, eat, sleep, repeat

November 19th, 2009, 07:52 PM	#27
supermachone MM Fanatic 2004 GT Kessel Run @ Less Than 12 Parsecs Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,698 iTrader: 2 reviews	yeah but its his personal car, u want ur daily driver to be enjoyable, i could see if he wanted to strip it down and make it a track car but i doubt thats his plan, so i wouldnt worry about weight honestly __________________

November 19th, 2009, 11:41 PM	#30
CammedMysticCobra Regular Mustang MystiqueCobra2004 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 345 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would have to agree with going custom on this one and deflty make sure your turn the speaker side upside so back of speaker or the magnet is facing into cabin. __________________ Full bolt ons Fully built Teksid Block Custom Comp Stage 10s missing JLT, Acufab TB and 2.8 Kenne http://www.youtube.com/user/MysticCobra04

November 19th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#21
trueblue02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT eventually @ something Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Your mom's cooter Posts: 1,997 iTrader: 0 reviews	well considering i'm taking out the rear seats and adding most likely one 10 inch sub, box, and amp, it will be pretty close to when i had the seats in, maybe a little more. and more direct weight in the back will help with traction!

November 20th, 2009, 12:57 AM	#31
supermachone MM Fanatic 2004 GT Kessel Run @ Less Than 12 Parsecs Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,698 iTrader: 2 reviews	yeah u could make a really stylish set up goin custom __________________

November 20th, 2009, 02:58 AM	#32
trueblue02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT eventually @ something Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Your mom's cooter Posts: 1,997 iTrader: 0 reviews	what's the most lightweight yet sturdy material I can use? im worried im gona do a crap job on this but oh well.

November 20th, 2009, 10:10 AM	#33
~C~ ~C~, The Other White Meat! Y2K YellowJacket GT ~TBD~ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West side B-More Posts: 1,710 iTrader: 2 reviews	I had a custom box made to fit in the back of my trunk with two 10" subs. Sounds fantastic. They are bottom firing. I wouldnt expose them in the RSD. __________________ BLOWN Bumblebeast! 370 rwhp / 381 ft lbs ~Tuned by JJ at WMS "Like the blind man says......We shall see...."

November 20th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#35
trueblue02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT eventually @ something Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Your mom's cooter Posts: 1,997 iTrader: 0 reviews	i'll probably buy a box. i don't need the rsd to be that strong, but someone might need to sit on it one day just in case.

November 23rd, 2009, 05:23 AM	#37
Molitor Enthusiast 2004 Mustang Mach 1 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L 4WD 1976 Monte Carlo Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 805 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	JL makes great subs IMO, its all I have ever really bought sub wise. I have 2 JL W3 12inch and they are great, I may upgrade to W6's tho. I have heard a 10inch JL W7 on my old car, and it blew my 2 Type R's out of the water, been a JL fan ever since lol __________________ Military Crew MM Sapper Squad Zombie Killing Club Member #4 Black Stang Crew Member #5

November 23rd, 2009, 10:32 AM	#38
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	12's over 10's everyday of the week for me. and custom box. IF you know what your doing. __________________

November 23rd, 2009, 10:35 AM	#39
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	off subject. trueblueGT. your car looks great. at least from your sig. i need to post new pics of mine i have much better pics __________________

November 23rd, 2009, 03:08 PM	#40
trueblue02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT eventually @ something Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Your mom's cooter Posts: 1,997 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol thanks. at least in my sig? ass haha, thers more in another post i have

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