Best Super Charger

LIStangAddict · November 21st, 2009, 09:15 AM

Whats the best supercharger for the money without getting crazy? I have a 1999 gt and I want to get the best bang for the buck trying to stay at about 400 hp.

GTsetGO · November 21st, 2009, 09:37 AM

it all depends on what you want to do with the car. where do you want to go with the car in the future. etc.

Smoothgrandmama · November 21st, 2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by GTsetGO

it all depends on what you want to do with the car. where do you want to go with the car in the future. etc.

Lies!!!!

NOS SuPeRcHaRgErS ArE dAA BeeSST!!!

I like Prochargers.

In my opnion there the best centri supercharger out there.

Positive displacement s/cs are gonna cost a lil more so I'll omit those

Eagle2000GT · November 21st, 2009, 09:47 AM

400 hp (crank) = 352 rwhp (manual) or 320 rwhp (automatic).

Even though I'm a ProCharger advocate I have heard good things about the MPH Mongoose kit. This kit will safely get you to 400 hp.

Modular PowerHouse

LIStangAddict · November 21st, 2009, 10:03 AM

I think the procharger is the best for me I really like the no hole in the oil pan idea!

Boostang · November 21st, 2009, 10:25 AM

tapping the oil pan takes 5mins.. i dunno why everyone is so scarred of it.

Shaun03GT · November 21st, 2009, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Boostang

tapping the oil pan takes 5mins.. i dunno why everyone is so scarred of it.

I was gonna say how hard can it be? Is it possible to get metal shavings in there or something? Is that why people are scared?

A lot of people on here like Procharger, Ive seen a lot of good things with Vortech too. I love this car

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

Hes making 516rwhp on the S-Trim... Pretty impressive, and that thing is fasssssst. Im hoping to get a used Vortech kit

Seabee · November 21st, 2009, 11:25 AM

A centri would be better for you i think. Vortechs can be fairly cheaper than most other brands. But procharger is a great sc as well.

Boostang · November 21st, 2009, 11:28 AM

jivepepper is making similar numbers on his s-trim

Mustang46 · November 21st, 2009, 11:52 AM

I had a Novi 2000 and was at the 400 rwhp mark and never had any issues. Now there is alot of argument that there are better S/C's than others.

Fact: They all use the same technology to make boost. Paxton, Vortech, Powerdyne, Procharger. It takes power to make power. Centrifugal superchargers use the same concept as a Roots type(but they are not the same in design) All Belt driven S/C's use a belt in relitivity to pully size to determine the amount of boost in which = Power.

With Centrifugal Superchargers you will be only making power in the higher RPM's. The higher the RPM's = more boost and you know what that means. Remember that even with a larger pully, you will build boost with RPM's and only reach max HP at the top of your power band. Your boost levels may keep pulling up, but the power may not even though you are throwing more boost at it.

With a Roots type you are building boost at a lower RPM because of the design but the only drawback that I have seen is that some setups will loose boost or have a fall off of boost at high RPM's when the engine catches up and pulls more air than the supercharger is giving. This is why people upgrade to a larger system..example the KB setups. They are a larger system setup and can produce alot more at higher RPM's. Any roots style blower is a "feel at the seat of your pants experience" becuase of the low end torque that they produce.

There are some Centrifugal Supercharger systems out there that bolt up different and enven some that are self contained. There are many systems out there and it is up to find what you are looking for. Something to remember is that adding power to any car, there is a give and take relationship. If you do the setup correctly you shouldn't have any issues but with different systems you can get some diffent results. It's best to find a setup with the best logivity and go with it. This is an expensive purchace and no one wants to waiste money. Good Luck!

LIStangAddict · November 21st, 2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Boostang

tapping the oil pan takes 5mins.. i dunno why everyone is so scarred of it.

Chips in the pan , One more thing to leak oil (the threaded hole), Clogged hose,I just rather do oil changes than worry about feeds and returns to the pan... I'm an machine builder for over 20 years and I can say everything fails one time or another and I would try to keep it as simple as I can. Thanks for all the comments. This forum is very cool!

mikestang · November 21st, 2009, 03:04 PM

Why hasn't anyone mentioned kenne bell. They are bas ass for sho.

pyschopath76 · November 21st, 2009, 03:10 PM

i like the V-3 Vortech myself. that is the system i am going with because you are correct, eventually things happen. rather do an oil change that tap my pan. but i would love a K/B or a Procharger too. its all preference i guess.

B0B · November 21st, 2009, 03:44 PM

i like the centri blowers, they pull a little harder on the top end than a roots or twin screw plus they're usually cheaper. they're also easy to tune because they have a linear boost curve. sure, they don't have as much down low torque as a kenne bell, but they still give a even hp/torque curve. they usually put out more horsepower than torque if you go to about 12 psi or more, but at 8-10 psi you should see even peak hp and torque

oh and a nice intercooled kit will be the safest way to supercharge your motor, the IAT's are low and the boost doesn't come on too strong at low rpms and cause rod-bending torque

limited · November 21st, 2009, 04:26 PM

not what the op is looking for, BUT, the fun factor of a twin screw can't be beat...period

mikestang · November 21st, 2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by limited

not what the op is looking for, BUT, the fun factor of a twin screw can't be beat...period

ohh

Barracuda · November 21st, 2009, 04:50 PM

Never been in a Roots car but my S-Trim Vortech Dyon'd 494 to the rear wheels and anything above 3K rpm's is just amazing....No oil leaks either from the tapped pan

Very simple tap.

Mustang46 · November 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Barracuda

Never been in a Roots car but my S-Trim Vortech Dyon'd 494 to the rear wheels and anything above 3K rpm's is just amazing....No oil leaks either from the tapped pan Very simple tap.

I know this is off topic but I was looking at your car's/truck's you own and noticed you had a Duramax. How do you like it? I work for DMAX in Morain, Ohio and just wanted to ask how it was working for you.

Barracuda · November 21st, 2009, 06:17 PM

I know this is off topic but I was looking at your car's/truck's you own and noticed you had a Duramax. How do you like it? I work for DMAX in Morain, Ohio and just wanted to ask how it was working for you

Had all 3 diesels and worked all 3....all have their pro's and cons but I LOVE the Duramax/Alli combo the best...it's a beast and rides unbelieveably...PM me and i will tell ya whatever u want.

YeloPony · November 21st, 2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by LIStangAddict

Whats the best supercharger for the money without getting crazy? I have a 1999 gt and I want to get the best bang for the buck trying to stay at about 400 hp.

prochargers are beter, but Vortech is the best bang for your buck..

here's the key to 'cheap' boost

$1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done" - MustangForums.com

November 21st, 2009, 09:15 AM	#1
LIStangAddict Newbie 1999 GT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Selden,NY Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 reviews	Best Super Charger Whats the best supercharger for the money without getting crazy? I have a 1999 gt and I want to get the best bang for the buck trying to stay at about 400 hp.

November 21st, 2009, 09:37 AM	#2
GTsetGO Cigar Assassin 2004 Mustang GT 12.88 @ 112 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away Posts: 14,082 iTrader: 10 reviews	it all depends on what you want to do with the car. where do you want to go with the car in the future. etc. __________________ Cigar Samplers for Sale 2008 Acura TL-S - 2008 Honda Pilot EX-SE

November 21st, 2009, 09:47 AM	#4
Eagle2000GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 5,311 iTrader: 1 reviews	400 hp (crank) = 352 rwhp (manual) or 320 rwhp (automatic). Even though I'm a ProCharger advocate I have heard good things about the MPH Mongoose kit. This kit will safely get you to 400 hp. Modular PowerHouse __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

November 21st, 2009, 10:03 AM	#5
LIStangAddict Newbie 1999 GT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Selden,NY Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 reviews	I like the procharger I think the procharger is the best for me I really like the no hole in the oil pan idea!

November 21st, 2009, 11:25 AM	#8
Seabee Whatever it originally would be 05 Saleen #824 Fast as fuck Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego Ca/Beach Park IL Posts: 7,471 iTrader: 4 reviews	A centri would be better for you i think. Vortechs can be fairly cheaper than most other brands. But procharger is a great sc as well. __________________ MILITARY CREW ANTI ILLEGALS CREW FOUNDER

November 21st, 2009, 10:25 AM	#6
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	tapping the oil pan takes 5mins.. i dunno why everyone is so scarred of it.

November 21st, 2009, 11:28 AM	#9
Boostang Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 11.01@128.32 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seale, Alabama Posts: 1,747 iTrader: 0 reviews	jivepepper is making similar numbers on his s-trim

November 21st, 2009, 11:52 AM	#10
Mustang46 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 11.85 @ 125 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Franklin, Ohio Posts: 972 iTrader: 2 reviews	I had a Novi 2000 and was at the 400 rwhp mark and never had any issues. Now there is alot of argument that there are better S/C's than others. Fact: They all use the same technology to make boost. Paxton, Vortech, Powerdyne, Procharger. It takes power to make power. Centrifugal superchargers use the same concept as a Roots type(but they are not the same in design) All Belt driven S/C's use a belt in relitivity to pully size to determine the amount of boost in which = Power. With Centrifugal Superchargers you will be only making power in the higher RPM's. The higher the RPM's = more boost and you know what that means. Remember that even with a larger pully, you will build boost with RPM's and only reach max HP at the top of your power band. Your boost levels may keep pulling up, but the power may not even though you are throwing more boost at it. With a Roots type you are building boost at a lower RPM because of the design but the only drawback that I have seen is that some setups will loose boost or have a fall off of boost at high RPM's when the engine catches up and pulls more air than the supercharger is giving. This is why people upgrade to a larger system..example the KB setups. They are a larger system setup and can produce alot more at higher RPM's. Any roots style blower is a "feel at the seat of your pants experience" becuase of the low end torque that they produce. There are some Centrifugal Supercharger systems out there that bolt up different and enven some that are self contained. There are many systems out there and it is up to find what you are looking for. Something to remember is that adding power to any car, there is a give and take relationship. If you do the setup correctly you shouldn't have any issues but with different systems you can get some diffent results. It's best to find a setup with the best logivity and go with it. This is an expensive purchace and no one wants to waiste money. Good Luck! Last edited by Mustang46; November 21st, 2009 at 12:04 PM.

November 21st, 2009, 03:04 PM	#12
mikestang Regular 2001 mustang gt 12.89@104 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: lexington,ky Posts: 348 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why hasn't anyone mentioned kenne bell. They are bas ass for sho.

November 21st, 2009, 03:10 PM	#13
pyschopath76 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT slow as sin.... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 977 iTrader: 0 reviews	i like the V-3 Vortech myself. that is the system i am going with because you are correct, eventually things happen. rather do an oil change that tap my pan. but i would love a K/B or a Procharger too. its all preference i guess. __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake/Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Upper Plenum/SLP Longtube Headers/SLP Catted X-pipe/SLP LM1/4.10 gears Military Crew - AZ2(AW) Black Stang Member #6

November 21st, 2009, 03:44 PM	#14
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	i like the centri blowers, they pull a little harder on the top end than a roots or twin screw plus they're usually cheaper. they're also easy to tune because they have a linear boost curve. sure, they don't have as much down low torque as a kenne bell, but they still give a even hp/torque curve. they usually put out more horsepower than torque if you go to about 12 psi or more, but at 8-10 psi you should see even peak hp and torque oh and a nice intercooled kit will be the safest way to supercharge your motor, the IAT's are low and the boost doesn't come on too strong at low rpms and cause rod-bending torque __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

November 21st, 2009, 04:26 PM	#15
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,297 iTrader: 0 reviews	not what the op is looking for, BUT, the fun factor of a twin screw can't be beat...period __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

November 21st, 2009, 04:50 PM	#17
Barracuda Regular Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 95 iTrader: 0 reviews	Never been in a Roots car but my S-Trim Vortech Dyon'd 494 to the rear wheels and anything above 3K rpm's is just amazing....No oil leaks either from the tapped pan Very simple tap. __________________ 99' GT 5 Speed Stroked w/All forged Internals Vortech V2 Details in Garage 65' Plymouth Max Wedge Satellite (9.35 @ 154 all motor) 69' SuperBee- Stroked 500cu BB 05' Silverado/Duramax Mid 13's thanks to EFI LIVE

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