Moving from 5.0 to 4.6

stang94 · November 30th, 2009, 10:52 PM

Hey guys,

I got raid of my 5.0 a long time ago and now getting back into a mustang. I'm looking for a New Edge with the PI heads and looking to make 350rwhp NA.

I can settle for 300rwhp NA if it's not possible. Where should I start to get that kind of power. I'm looking at a 2000 GT with 102K miles, getting it for $2500.

Is it possible to get those numbers with out blower or nitrous?

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:03 PM

ya, but more expensive.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 30th, 2009, 11:07 PM

completely possible. just takes that $$$ out of your pocket.
but if you got it to spend. do it up.

stang94 · November 30th, 2009, 11:09 PM

I've seen everyone talking about cams for these motor. How much rwhp are gain from a cam swap?

I need like a list of combos to use to achieve those numbers.

It's 5spd and will go with 4.10 gear.

Give me a combo that will give me roughly 300rwhp and over.

Goal set at 300 RWhp.

Help me out with some combos.

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by stang94

I've seen everyone talking about cams for these motor. How much rwhp are gain from a cam swap?

I need like a list of combos to use to achieve those numbers.

It's 5spd and will go with 4.10 gear.

Give me a combo that will give me roughly 300rwhp and over.

Goal set at 300 RWhp.

Help me out with some combos.

first of all, if your only going for 300-350 RWHP look at getting 4.30s. second of all have you considered 4V heads in lew of cams? lastly you should be looking into suspension and chassis work as much as your looking into motor work.

White99stang · November 30th, 2009, 11:12 PM

don't need a big list, for n/a just heads, cams, intake, full exhaust, full bolt ons, and tune and you are there, so pretty much about 5k worth of parts but gotta be careful for a car with that many miles adding that much power might not make it on the stock motor

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:13 PM

you should also be looking at internals. you have high miles as it is and unless you plan on doig a motor swap when you motor takes a shit a set of forged internals could help your cause.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 30th, 2009, 11:18 PM

you dont need much. is it a full track car or dd with a kick. ?

if its a full track car just get some hella agressive stage 3 cams with crazy port
delete the ac. new plenum and tb. long tubes. intake youll be good.

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:20 PM

^bolt on shit like a tb and plenum are worthless, imo. LTs are too much work for little gain. get shorties if your getting headers.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 30th, 2009, 11:21 PM

he said. NA.
and that bolt on stuff will help it beathe.

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by ForestGRN_Ghost

he said. NA.
and that bolt on stuff will help it beathe.

humbug. too much money, not enough gain. every time i pop my hood and see the CAI i wanna slam it back down on my skull... bolt ons are disappointing.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 30th, 2009, 11:26 PM

stong feelings.
me...dont feel that way.

but i mean its not my car.

quiksilver225 · November 30th, 2009, 11:27 PM

300HP just is not a very high bar to set...

make it challenging

stang94 · November 30th, 2009, 11:29 PM

It's not a track car, and it's not a daily driver. It's just a toy car to drive around evening and weekends when possible.

Knowledge me about the 4 valve heads and more about modding this motor?

How much will it cost for a rebuild with a set of heads cam and intake?

Can i use the STOCK internals, because I know it can handle more than 300rwhp?

stang94 · November 30th, 2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

300HP just is not a very high bar to set...

make it challenging

300 RWHP with 4.10 is more than enough fun for me. Like I said this is a evening/weekend car. Not a race car nor a track car.

PS: I got all the suspension work out already I just need the combo to get me the 300rwhp.

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 30th, 2009, 11:31 PM

you can use stock internals.
4v heads. are the best to date.
if you can get a pair. get them
nuff said.
they flow sooooo much more then 2v heads do.
low end tourqe suffers a little. but youll be so
happy you wont notice.

GTRACER88 · December 1st, 2009, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

LTs are too much work for little gain. get shorties if your getting headers.

Was this a serious post? I hope your kidding..

GTRACER88 · December 1st, 2009, 02:21 AM

Full bolt ons and stage 2 cams, cms or hitech, put people right at the 300 rwhp range. It's not as complicated as it seems...

93HatchsBFF · December 1st, 2009, 02:23 AM

shorties will only get you a tiny bit over stock get LT headers
Hitech stage 2 cams
TB and plenum
good CAI JLT prefered
and go get a good tune

93HatchsBFF · December 1st, 2009, 02:25 AM

P.S. 4v heads are worth it but would you really spend all that money converting everything

November 30th, 2009, 10:52 PM	#1
stang94 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jamaica, NY Posts: 1,077 iTrader: 1 reviews	Moving from 5.0 to 4.6 Hey guys, I got raid of my 5.0 a long time ago and now getting back into a mustang. I'm looking for a New Edge with the PI heads and looking to make 350rwhp NA. I can settle for 300rwhp NA if it's not possible. Where should I start to get that kind of power. I'm looking at a 2000 GT with 102K miles, getting it for $2500. Is it possible to get those numbers with out blower or nitrous? __________________ Giving Away For FREE PM ME. FREE 351 Block, 90,xxx miles (Non roller block) FREE 94-98 GT Hood (red)

November 30th, 2009, 11:03 PM	#2
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya, but more expensive. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

November 30th, 2009, 11:07 PM	#3
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	completely possible. just takes that $$$ out of your pocket. but if you got it to spend. do it up. __________________

November 30th, 2009, 11:09 PM	#4
stang94 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jamaica, NY Posts: 1,077 iTrader: 1 reviews	I've seen everyone talking about cams for these motor. How much rwhp are gain from a cam swap? I need like a list of combos to use to achieve those numbers. It's 5spd and will go with 4.10 gear. Give me a combo that will give me roughly 300rwhp and over. Goal set at 300 RWhp. Help me out with some combos. __________________ Giving Away For FREE PM ME. FREE 351 Block, 90,xxx miles (Non roller block) FREE 94-98 GT Hood (red)

November 30th, 2009, 11:12 PM	#6
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	don't need a big list, for n/a just heads, cams, intake, full exhaust, full bolt ons, and tune and you are there, so pretty much about 5k worth of parts but gotta be careful for a car with that many miles adding that much power might not make it on the stock motor __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

November 30th, 2009, 11:13 PM	#7
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	you should also be looking at internals. you have high miles as it is and unless you plan on doig a motor swap when you motor takes a shit a set of forged internals could help your cause. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

November 30th, 2009, 11:18 PM	#8
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	you dont need much. is it a full track car or dd with a kick. ? if its a full track car just get some hella agressive stage 3 cams with crazy port delete the ac. new plenum and tb. long tubes. intake youll be good. __________________

November 30th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#9
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	^bolt on shit like a tb and plenum are worthless, imo. LTs are too much work for little gain. get shorties if your getting headers. __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

November 30th, 2009, 11:21 PM	#10
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	he said. NA. and that bolt on stuff will help it beathe. __________________

November 30th, 2009, 11:26 PM	#12
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	stong feelings. me...dont feel that way. but i mean its not my car. __________________

November 30th, 2009, 11:27 PM	#13
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,278 iTrader: 0 reviews	300HP just is not a very high bar to set... make it challenging __________________ BBK CAI, March UDPs, Eibach Sportline Springs, MM C/C plates, Koni Yellows, Centerforce DF clutch, FRPP Billet Flywheel, B&M Pro-Ripper Shifter, BBK ceramic LTs, BBK catted X-Pipe, SLP LM1, EBC rotors, 4.10 FRPP gears 5.4 4V coming soon

November 30th, 2009, 11:29 PM	#14
stang94 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jamaica, NY Posts: 1,077 iTrader: 1 reviews	It's not a track car, and it's not a daily driver. It's just a toy car to drive around evening and weekends when possible. Knowledge me about the 4 valve heads and more about modding this motor? How much will it cost for a rebuild with a set of heads cam and intake? Can i use the STOCK internals, because I know it can handle more than 300rwhp? __________________ Giving Away For FREE PM ME. FREE 351 Block, 90,xxx miles (Non roller block) FREE 94-98 GT Hood (red)

November 30th, 2009, 11:31 PM	#16
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 993 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can use stock internals. 4v heads. are the best to date. if you can get a pair. get them nuff said. they flow sooooo much more then 2v heads do. low end tourqe suffers a little. but youll be so happy you wont notice. __________________

December 1st, 2009, 02:21 AM	#18
GTRACER88 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,153 iTrader: 1 reviews	Full bolt ons and stage 2 cams, cms or hitech, put people right at the 300 rwhp range. It's not as complicated as it seems... __________________ Super Slow 2011 Grabber blue V6... Last edited by GTRACER88; December 1st, 2009 at 02:26 AM.

December 1st, 2009, 02:23 AM	#19
93HatchsBFF Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX 12.60 at 109mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obamastan, AZ Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 0 reviews	shorties will only get you a tiny bit over stock get LT headers Hitech stage 2 cams TB and plenum good CAI JLT prefered and go get a good tune __________________ 1989 LX mustang, 5speed, 108,xxx miles, Mac Longtubes, BBK midpipe, Paxton Novi 1000 6psi, Crappy FMU with 19lb injectors, 373 gears soon to come 30lb injectors, Blow through MAF, intercooler and tune

December 1st, 2009, 02:25 AM	#20
93HatchsBFF Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX 12.60 at 109mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obamastan, AZ Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 0 reviews	P.S. 4v heads are worth it but would you really spend all that money converting everything __________________ 1989 LX mustang, 5speed, 108,xxx miles, Mac Longtubes, BBK midpipe, Paxton Novi 1000 6psi, Crappy FMU with 19lb injectors, 373 gears soon to come 30lb injectors, Blow through MAF, intercooler and tune

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