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Old February 20th, 2007, 05:17 PM   #1
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BBK Valve Cover Gasket


Is it supposed to be installed on the head or the valve cover itself?
 
Old February 21st, 2007, 01:04 PM   #2
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does not really matter as long as it is in there. personally i would put it on the cover that way it insures a seal
 
Old February 21st, 2007, 01:58 PM   #3
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Personally, I apply a bead of RTV silicone to the gasket and put it on the valve cover and let it set up. Later on, install the valve cover and gasket on the head. Next time you pull the valve cover off the gasket will come off with it. Most of the time it won't tear and you can reuse it.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 04:05 PM   #4
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one side is sticky.. look at the bolt pattern they are not the same. there is only one way the gasket can go on. put the sticky side on first and let it set.. do NOT RTV it at least on the sticky side, it will not bond to it and you'll be in leak heaven.
 
Old February 21st, 2007, 11:43 PM   #5
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Re: BBK Valve cover gasket


Originally Posted by Invictus
one side is sticky.. look at the bolt pattern they are not the same. there is only one way the gasket can go on. put the sticky side on first and let it set.. do NOT RTV it at least on the sticky side, it will not bond to it and you'll be in leak heaven.
+1 except there is a small dab of rtv that i think is needed, where the head and timing cover meet up. I just got done installing mine. What pissed me off bout BBK was, they didnt send enough rubber grommets to replace the old ones.
 
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i'm currently in the middle of installing these! Is there a trick to getting the driver side in place! I can not find enough room to slide the cover in!

Also, in regards to the gasket... the sticky side did no bond at all to the passenger side... what should I do? Since RTV sealer has been deemed bad!

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I heard the drivers side is tough to install, and that somebody has to pull on something to get it to slide in, but I dont know for sure.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 12:23 PM   #8
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It does matter what side you place the gasket on & do not use RTV form-a-gasket for these valve covers. They are designed to be specifically spaced from the mating surface and they will eventually leak using RTV do to the supplied BBK bolts and torque accessibility. The gaskets must be attached to the cylinder head side, otherwise there is no way for the bolt spacer shims to sit in place without falling off. You will have to add 4 dabs (2 on each side)of silicone underneath the gasket(Cylinder head side) at the timing cover cylinder head seam for the valve cover surface. The drivers side installation is a bitch. You will have to go under the dash a losen completely the brake hydroboost unit. There is 3 bolts under the dash and one on the engine bay side. Don't remove it, just losen the nuts as much as possible so you can rock the booster. That will give you just enough clearance to slide the valve cover on. This is where you have to be careful not to knock one of the valve cover shim spacers out of position. It's a blind install, so be careful. Oh, you will also have to remove the clutch cable and the O2 harness bracket behind the cylinder head besides what the instructions tell you to remove. I took some pics during the install if you think that might help. Hope this helps.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 12:29 PM   #9
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anyone trie and raise that side of the engine... tilting it a bit for a better angle? Might be worth a shot!

I think the gaskets I got were shot from the box.... on one side stuck good enough to the head to stay in place... the passenger side didn't bond at all!

Anyone got any ideas on how to solve that issue? Since using gasket maker is out of the ?

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we just installed them on my car, but we did new header and a k member. so my buddy has that tool to drop the engine down so we did it all at the sametime. so it wasn't that bad. but put it on the valve cover.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 03:24 PM   #11
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how far did you drop the ingine down? Is it easier pull the motor this way? I'm thinking that since I've got some header to do as well I might as well pull the motor... so far I've both covers in, but with the way the gasket are sitting I do not believe I'll ever get the bolts lined up with the compression spacers!

For looks these covers do not seem worth the trouble! However once all said and done I'm sure it will be worth the trouble!
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I had one gasket that didn't want to stick in some places as well. I wiped the head surface with laquer thinner to insure that there was no remaining oil residue causing them not to stick and that worked for me. There is also a 3m product that you can apply to the gaskets to get them restickyed (Is that a word?) again if necessary. Those gaskets have to be securely stuck to the head surface with the spacer shims perfectly aligned with the bolt holes. The last thing you want to do is have to remove one because you screwed up with the preperation. This is where you've got to do it right. I toyed with losening the motor mounts and moving the motor up and down at the time. I opted for the hydrobooster losening, but I wasn't installing headers at the same time either. I really like the look, but was it worth it? Borderline...Here's 3 pics. The first 2 are of the spacer shims inserted into the gasket prior to installing the valve covers. The last pic is of the final look. I opted for the titanium powder coated versions, rather than the polished(Chrome) or the silver powder coated. Hope this helps.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 12:45 AM   #13
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I got the job done... although I am worried about the passenger side! Before reading any of this I had that side done and did what has said was the worst thing... used Gasket maker to get the gasket to stick! Ofcourse now its too late.... but it did keep me from doing it to both sides!

For the Drivers side I ended up removing the bottem two hydrolic lines... this allowed me to move the Booster assembly completely out of the way! Makes doing the Driver side really easy!

Anyhow... I started the car and let it run for awhile... haven't noticed any leaks... which I know is too soon to tell! And just for the record..... I used "Ultra Blue RTV gasket maker" on the passenger side! Sure wish I had done my research before starting this! I suppose if any leaks to start to appear on the RTV'd cover... its the easiest of the two to remove!

Anyhow... maybe I'll get luck and the cover wont leak?!?

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Old December 24th, 2007, 02:05 AM   #14
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Well the good news is the pass side is the easiest of the two to replace.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 08:47 AM   #15
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your confindent GSJONHSON that its going to leak?! Was hoping I might get lucky!
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Originally Posted by Nemisus View Post
your confindent GSJONHSON that its going to leak?! Was hoping I might get lucky!
You may get lucky, but with all of the complaints that I have heard that these valve covers always leak, I have found numerous inconsistencies with the installation process, including using RTV. Everyone seems to stray away from installing these things properly due to the difficulty factor. If done right, they do not leak!
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good to here you got them in good job. i have no leaks in my, so i think you will be fine if you don't see any leaks now.
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I would like to see pics! Some with out some stupid round blower in there! LOL
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I know you don't mean me...lol
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Old December 24th, 2007, 04:55 PM   #20
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The lighting outside suck... but for now this will give you an idea







as long as I don't get any leaks I'll be happy!

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