homemade shifter modifications

mystang0673 · January 22nd, 2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by stangman92

well it is a given though that by making the actual length of the shifter shorter, ur creating shorter throws, simple lever and fulcrum point. And as for shift stops, the 3650 has internal shift stops. but yes, the springs are definetaly stiffer on an aftermarket shifter.

the internal shift stops on a 3650 suck balls and allow you to easily bend shift forks with a missed gear whereas i have beaten the hell out of a 3650 with a upr blue thunder with adjusted shift stops and had not problem. there is more to a TRUE short shifter than just a shorter handle is all im saying.

stangman92 · January 22nd, 2010, 06:25 PM

yes of course, you are 100% correct that a true short shifter ahs mroe than just a shorter handle, but for the money (free) i make do with mine, if anyone wants to donate one, i would appreciate it jaja

redFireGT · January 22nd, 2010, 11:32 PM

seems like it would be easier to just buy a short throw haha

jivepepper · January 23rd, 2010, 01:59 AM

I had a mac shifter on my orginal t45 then when I installed the tr3650 I used just the handle on the tr3650.

dcook_14 · January 23rd, 2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by stangman92

you do know that when you weld something, the weld is stronger than the metal itself.

Not quite... If you are good at welding, then the welds will be stronger. If you're not the greatest at welding, I guarantee the shifter will break at the welds before the acutual handle breaks. Plus an aftermarket shifter is almost always aluminum, which has to be TIG welded, which is probably the hardest type of welding.

Originally Posted by mystang0673

when people think short throw shifter they think it is shorter therefore making the shift shorter which is not true... a short throw shifter adjusts the actual distance that the shifter moves. they also have adjustable stops where the stock ones dont. and as stated above, the springs that push the shifter to nuetral position are much better than stock. and i believe that the upr blue thunder has the hardest spring...

+1 Well said

nathanielwilliam · April 21st, 2010, 05:33 PM

The strength of the weld depends on the temperature of the weld and the cooling process. Doing a post weld heat treatment really helps the strength of the weld as it allows residual stresses caused by welding to go away. To do a PWHT, either cover the part with insulation after you finish welding it so that it cools as slowly as possible or heat the part up in something and slowly lower the temperature. usually over the course of an hour or two.

Of course, it should be noted that welding on some steels, the carbide phase of the carbon in the steel will be converted to graphite (I think this occurs at about 800F). Some alloys can also be ruined by welding on them or simply getting them too hot.

slikirish · April 21st, 2010, 06:56 PM

holy dead thread batman

January 23rd, 2010, 01:59 AM	#24
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	I had a mac shifter on my orginal t45 then when I installed the tr3650 I used just the handle on the tr3650. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

April 21st, 2010, 05:33 PM	#26
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	The strength of the weld depends on the temperature of the weld and the cooling process. Doing a post weld heat treatment really helps the strength of the weld as it allows residual stresses caused by welding to go away. To do a PWHT, either cover the part with insulation after you finish welding it so that it cools as slowly as possible or heat the part up in something and slowly lower the temperature. usually over the course of an hour or two. Of course, it should be noted that welding on some steels, the carbide phase of the carbon in the steel will be converted to graphite (I think this occurs at about 800F). Some alloys can also be ruined by welding on them or simply getting them too hot. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

April 21st, 2010, 06:56 PM	#27
slikirish Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 5spd Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 2,679 iTrader: 0 reviews	holy dead thread batman __________________ Mods in Garage

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January 22nd, 2010, 06:25 PM	#22
stangman92 Regular 2002 mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ft lauderdale, fl Posts: 334 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes of course, you are 100% correct that a true short shifter ahs mroe than just a shorter handle, but for the money (free) i make do with mine, if anyone wants to donate one, i would appreciate it jaja

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redFireGT Newbie 2003 Mustang Gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: seaford, New york Posts: 37 iTrader: 0 reviews	seems like it would be easier to just buy a short throw haha

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