what should be my next suspension mod?

YeloPony · January 24th, 2010, 01:06 PM

4.10s go in monday!.. my new sway bars and bumpsteer I'll put in after that.. so I'm trying to see what should be done next, I really want to improve my daily driving, even though I may get to AX once in a while but I'm not building a race car.

I figured MM controal arms would be a no brainer? next?

BakerFX4 · January 24th, 2010, 01:30 PM

why are you "on probation"?

01KnightRiderGT · January 24th, 2010, 01:43 PM

is it lowered? you should get some LCA, and some Subframe connectors. Full lenght weld ins are the best, then some caster camber plates.

PowerShiftz02GT · January 24th, 2010, 01:44 PM

springs/shocks/struts

ReverendDexter · January 24th, 2010, 01:48 PM

Did you already buy the swaybars? If not, hold off until you're done doing whatever else you're going to do. Swaybars should be the LAST thing you do, as they're there to compensate for the deficiencies of your suspension setup.

That being said, what do you mean by "improve your daily driving"? Are you looking for improved cornering or better ride quality? I'm guessing the former based on the rest of your post.

First thing I'd do is make sure the parts that you do have are top quality and in good condtion, in particular your tires, shocks, and brakes. These three will make more difference than any suspension modification.

If you have those covered and are looking to spend money, my suggestion would be full-length subframe connectors. That'll get you a good platform to build from.

If you are going to do AX, I can't stress the following enough: LEAVE THE CAR STOCK. At least until you've done a couple events and get a feel for what's actually deficient in your suspension.

Hope that helps!

01KnightRiderGT · January 24th, 2010, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Did you already buy the swaybars? If not, hold off until you're done doing whatever else you're going to do. Swaybars should be the LAST thing you do, as they're there to compensate for the deficiencies of your suspension setup.

That being said, what do you mean by "improve your daily driving"? Are you looking for improved cornering or better ride quality? I'm guessing the former based on the rest of your post.

First thing I'd do is make sure the parts that you do have are top quality and in good condtion, in particular your tires, shocks, and brakes. These three will make more difference than any suspension modification.

If you have those covered and are looking to spend money, my suggestion would be full-length subframe connectors. That'll get you a good platform to build from.

If you are going to do AX, I can't stress the following enough: LEAVE THE CAR STOCK. At least until you've done a couple events and get a feel for what's actually deficient in your suspension.
Hope that helps!

+1 forgot to say that.
Plus any little mod will bump you up a class

00redgt · January 24th, 2010, 02:03 PM

and don't forget a good set of tires,all the suspension mods are useless if you can't grip the road with some tires

MATT02GT · January 24th, 2010, 05:51 PM

Subframe connectors will blow your mind

YeloPony · January 25th, 2010, 10:15 AM

Thanks.. Ok

Already got Swaybars, pick them up today.. I figured FLSFC were a good bet.. As far as
"improving my daily drive & handling" .. just that, I don't drag race but I like to be able to hook up on the road, and I want better handling overall..

Rev: Thanks, I understand the 'keep it stock for AX'.. but I'm way past that point, when I bought the car is was already modded for E-Prep class. and I'm really gonna do AX for fun, I like driving my car on twisites..

Don't really car about how well I do..

So any mod that will increase my 'fun', make me more comfortable keeping speed...

Right now:
Eibach Sways
Eibach Shocks/Struts Pro Damper Kit
Steeda Springs
Steeda BumpSteer
Steeda CC Plates
*I think that's all, alot was on the car when I bought it*

New Wheels and tires will be coming soon, right now I've got Goodyear Eagles on the Front and Cooper 2XS on the rear on 17x8s.. (came with the car).. likely I'll be getting 17x9/17x10 w/ NT555s

I hadn't thought about brakes.. but yeah $$$.. I was thinking LCA or FLSFC.. I don't want to turn the car into a 'race car' really, so a $300-$400 here and there is ok..

YeloPony · January 25th, 2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

why are you "on probation"?

HA!!!.. I got drunk in front of the pc and posted bewbies on the forum.. I was in underground so I (my drunk mind) thought it was ok..

It's funny the punishment is no access to 'underground' and I my sig file is 'gone'.. Ask one of the mods how long it lasts.. response: no idea.

Funny!

no biggie, I wasn't trying to do anything wrong.. $hit happens...

zigbigadoru · January 25th, 2010, 01:27 PM

just for that story your getting reps!!!!

Lefty · January 25th, 2010, 04:28 PM

<--Votes MM FL Subframe Connectors

YeloPony · January 26th, 2010, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lefty

<--Votes MM FL Subframe Connectors

Lefty, who welded yours in? CJP shows $260 to install them.. I'm sure I can get that price down a bit considering the constant flow of cash I already give them.. but if you know a local guy?

I really want to do everything myself, but when it comes to welding.. sorry no dice... same with gears.. I just had them put in.. I'll take the motor apart and the suspension, but I can't weld, and anything that require me to spend more money on special tools I'll likely never use again.. it's not worth it..

RyanGT · January 26th, 2010, 11:10 AM

They are also bolt in. So bolt em in, and take them to an exhaust shop or something. Ask em if they can weld it for ya. Since its already installed it shouldn't be too much. 240 bucks for a install is a lot i would think.

RyanGT · January 26th, 2010, 11:11 AM

If it is 260 for buying and installing, i would just go for it. But 260 for only install is a bit steep!

ReverendDexter · January 26th, 2010, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by RyanGT

If it is 260 for buying and installing, i would just go for it. But 260 for only install is a bit steep!

I paid more than that to have 'em installed in my fox :/

This was also on a convertible, though, so part of what I got charged was the time to work around the janky factory sfcs.

zigbigadoru · January 26th, 2010, 11:25 AM

hahahahahahahahahahahaha are you guys high? i paid $80 to have mine welded in and the guy let me watch him/help sort of. it took like 30-45 mins tops.

edit: and it was $80 only because i tipped him like $40 for being so awesome. he only wanted like $40

YeloPony · January 26th, 2010, 12:03 PM

I have a Vert... it's 260 listed on the web site for install + cost of the SFCs(159 for powercoated MM), I'm sure I could get it a bit lower...

.. I wouldn't do a bolt on set.. I wouldn't pay $260, there are too many people in the area that could do it for less I'm sure..

RyanGT · January 26th, 2010, 12:06 PM

They have to remove old ones. 260 for FLsubs and and putting em in is an ok price. They cost 120 for non painted, and 150 for powder coated online. Not counting shipping. So hes basically doing it for 100 bucks. Not a bad price.

YeloPony · January 27th, 2010, 11:05 AM

Just got a quote $350 (includes MM FLSFC and install)..

January 24th, 2010, 01:06 PM	#1
YeloPony Cones = Yummy! YELLOW! 2001 GT VERT 46.496 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central PA Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 2 reviews	what should be my next suspension mod? 4.10s go in monday!.. my new sway bars and bumpsteer I'll put in after that.. so I'm trying to see what should be done next, I really want to improve my daily driving, even though I may get to AX once in a while but I'm not building a race car. I figured MM controal arms would be a no brainer? next? __________________ Zombie Killing Club \| MM Cleavage Club #7 Specs and Pics in the garage...

January 24th, 2010, 01:30 PM	#2
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	why are you "on probation"? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

January 24th, 2010, 01:43 PM	#3
01KnightRiderGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 1,817 iTrader: 0 reviews	is it lowered? you should get some LCA, and some Subframe connectors. Full lenght weld ins are the best, then some caster camber plates. __________________ Black Stang Member #13 315's Crew Founder My Track Videos

January 24th, 2010, 01:44 PM	#4
PowerShiftz02GT MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,204 iTrader: 13 reviews	springs/shocks/struts __________________

January 24th, 2010, 01:48 PM	#5
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did you already buy the swaybars? If not, hold off until you're done doing whatever else you're going to do. Swaybars should be the LAST thing you do, as they're there to compensate for the deficiencies of your suspension setup. That being said, what do you mean by "improve your daily driving"? Are you looking for improved cornering or better ride quality? I'm guessing the former based on the rest of your post. First thing I'd do is make sure the parts that you do have are top quality and in good condtion, in particular your tires, shocks, and brakes. These three will make more difference than any suspension modification. If you have those covered and are looking to spend money, my suggestion would be full-length subframe connectors. That'll get you a good platform to build from. If you are going to do AX, I can't stress the following enough: LEAVE THE CAR STOCK. At least until you've done a couple events and get a feel for what's actually deficient in your suspension. Hope that helps! __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

January 24th, 2010, 02:03 PM	#7
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,092 iTrader: 5 reviews	and don't forget a good set of tires,all the suspension mods are useless if you can't grip the road with some tires __________________

January 24th, 2010, 05:51 PM	#8
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	Subframe connectors will blow your mind __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

January 25th, 2010, 10:15 AM	#9
YeloPony Cones = Yummy! YELLOW! 2001 GT VERT 46.496 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central PA Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 2 reviews	Thanks.. Ok Already got Swaybars, pick them up today.. I figured FLSFC were a good bet.. As far as "improving my daily drive & handling" .. just that, I don't drag race but I like to be able to hook up on the road, and I want better handling overall.. Rev: Thanks, I understand the 'keep it stock for AX'.. but I'm way past that point, when I bought the car is was already modded for E-Prep class. and I'm really gonna do AX for fun, I like driving my car on twisites.. Don't really car about how well I do.. So any mod that will increase my 'fun', make me more comfortable keeping speed... Right now: Eibach Sways Eibach Shocks/Struts Pro Damper Kit Steeda Springs Steeda BumpSteer Steeda CC Plates I think that's all, alot was on the car when I bought it New Wheels and tires will be coming soon, right now I've got Goodyear Eagles on the Front and Cooper 2XS on the rear on 17x8s.. (came with the car).. likely I'll be getting 17x9/17x10 w/ NT555s I hadn't thought about brakes.. but yeah $$$.. I was thinking LCA or FLSFC.. I don't want to turn the car into a 'race car' really, so a $300-$400 here and there is ok.. __________________ Zombie Killing Club \| MM Cleavage Club #7 Specs and Pics in the garage...

January 25th, 2010, 04:28 PM	#12
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	<--Votes MM FL Subframe Connectors __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

January 26th, 2010, 11:10 AM	#14
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	They are also bolt in. So bolt em in, and take them to an exhaust shop or something. Ask em if they can weld it for ya. Since its already installed it shouldn't be too much. 240 bucks for a install is a lot i would think. __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

January 26th, 2010, 11:11 AM	#15
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	If it is 260 for buying and installing, i would just go for it. But 260 for only install is a bit steep! __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

January 26th, 2010, 12:03 PM	#18
YeloPony Cones = Yummy! YELLOW! 2001 GT VERT 46.496 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central PA Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 2 reviews	I have a Vert... it's 260 listed on the web site for install + cost of the SFCs(159 for powercoated MM), I'm sure I could get it a bit lower... .. I wouldn't do a bolt on set.. I wouldn't pay $260, there are too many people in the area that could do it for less I'm sure.. __________________ Zombie Killing Club \| MM Cleavage Club #7 Specs and Pics in the garage...

January 26th, 2010, 12:06 PM	#19
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	They have to remove old ones. 260 for FLsubs and and putting em in is an ok price. They cost 120 for non painted, and 150 for powder coated online. Not counting shipping. So hes basically doing it for 100 bucks. Not a bad price. __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

January 27th, 2010, 11:05 AM	#20
YeloPony Cones = Yummy! YELLOW! 2001 GT VERT 46.496 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central PA Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 2 reviews	Just got a quote $350 (includes MM FLSFC and install).. __________________ Zombie Killing Club \| MM Cleavage Club #7 Specs and Pics in the garage...

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