[F8L GT]

Originally Posted by saxmanJJ There's a guy that runs at Atco Raceway that runs an 2004 in the high 12s on a good day who's got a stock longblock with all the boltons. I think he's got 4.10s though, with a stick shift. He runs Hoosier DOT race tires on Welds with skinnies in the front. I think the stock 3.27 gear is going to keep you out of the 12s. I think 4.10s are almost a necessity with nothing but bolt-ons.

Thats what I do, I ran 12.8s flat

[White99stang]

doubt it can be done, this coming from the guy that tried to do everything for the first time. but really what is the point, why not just put gears in it and lightin it up. i mean its like wow if you run a 12.99 with stock gears, i will just show up with the same amount of power, with 4.56's and same weight and run 12.50's. I don't consider running anything with stock gearing bragging rights. Who wants to drive around on stock gearing anyways.

[F8L GT]

Tim, you know you are my idol, lol. And my goal was to get my car to look like yours

[TheUNZippee!]

Gears=win

[330CubeGt]

Its time to move on, It seems you have reached a stopping point with the current setup, Hell even go back with the shorter triple 5s out back if itmakes you happy and see if you get anything better but i doubt yo will see 12s.

Either bite the bullet and go with 4.10s and Dip into the 12s or Start removing weight there really your only two Easy options, And stop worrying about what other people say the car can or can not do and just have fun with the car

[Blackbird1084]

To prove local gm guys and ford haters wrong. My goal was to just hit a 12.99 with stock gears,full weight and right after take the seats,Jack,spare and anything else out to see what the diffrence is. Then throw gears in it and see how far in the 12's n/a and 11's on spray I could get before a set of cams. Basicly to prove a couple of loud mouths wrong.

[330CubeGt]

Put 4.10s in the bitch and keep quite its that easy, they will think its stock.And there not going to shut up there going to fine something else to say, Its all part of the game.

Then put it on a Diet...

Actual numbers are from Either from 330CubeGt or 96SOHC

Drivers seat Leather 48 lbs
Passenger seat Leather38lbs
Rear seat Leather top half 30lbs
Bottom Rear seat 15lbs
Sounds deadening (Removed w/Torch and Scraper) 45-50 Lbs
Door Panels 8Lbs Each
Extra metal out of front bumper (Center) 8Lbs (Kept most of it)
Front Sway Bar w/links 13.5Lbs
20Lbs going to front coild over setup.
20 Lbs going to lighter front seats with manual sliders.
CD Player Head Unit 5 Lbs
Rear End Dog bone 10 lbs
metal plate under steering column 3.5 Lbs
Wind shield washer tank 1.5Lbs Empty/8Lbs Full
Passenger side air bag 9Lbs
Drivers side air bag 3 Lbs
Air bag sensors and module 3Lbs
Hood latch w/cable etc 2-3Lbs
Cruise control (In Fender) w/cable 2-3Lbs
Glove Box 4lbs
Trunk Lining with spare tire cover 14Lbs
Spare tire 25 lbs
Jack and tire iron 8lbs
Smaller battery 10Lbs
Mach 460 Amp Rack 6Lbs
Mach 460 Speakers 2.25 Each
6 disk changer 2Lbs
Rear Seat belts 5 Lbs
Sun Visors with harness 2.5 Lbs
E-Brake Assembly w/cable 7.5 Lbs
Black boxes behind rear tires w/brackets 3Lbs
rille insert and Radiator cover 2 lbs.
Mott bar and bumpstop bracket 9 lbs.
Fog Lights and brackets 6 lbs.
Rear Bumper support brackets 6 lbs
Factory Spoiler 9 Lbs
Strut tower brace 8 lbs
Complete Front Bumper support 17 Lbs
Quad Shocks w/brackets 8Lbs
Rear Sway Bar 8.5Lbs
Convertible K-Member brace 17Lbs
Firewall blanket 15 lbs
Door Bars 8 lbs
Dead pedal 1 lb
Tailpipes 20 lbs
Evap Canister 5 Lbs
EGR and DPee 4 Lbs
Rear Bumper 25 Lbs
Convertible top pump/motor/cylinders 12 lbs
A/C Complete 30 Lbs
ABS Pump Delete 14 Lbs
99-04 Brake Calipers 10 Lbs Vs. 14 Lbs 94-98 style
wiper motor and linkage 6 lbs
Heater core/A/C box/ fan 19 lbs
Bumper suppor mounts w/wind deflectors 5.5 Lbs
Stock A-Arms 30 Lbs, Tubular A-Arms 15 Lbs
hydro-boost and master cylinder assembly 17lbs
Power steering pump 10 Lbs, Delete pulley 1.2 lbs
Power steering lines and Res 5.5 Lbs
lock mechanism,window motor,wiring harness 12 lbs
Gut underside of Trunk, Trunk will weight 20-25Lbs
Few Lbs Misc Nuts/Bolts and Removed Metal.

Get to Work!!!

[8URSRT]

102 MPH is plenty to run 12.90's. He'll probably get a counple tenths from headers and then another couple from a much more capable tire.

IMO its VERY possible.

[F8L GT]

Speaking from experience and trying it, its not possible with stock gearing. The car cant get rolling quick enough

[MATT02GT]

God I hate altitude.... I barely hit 12's with boost

[Shaun03GT]

I know some guy on Allfordmustangs. Has an 01 Bullitt, 259rwhp. His best run stock gears was 13.26 @ 102.7. So, I think its very possible with suspension, tires, Longtubes, mid pipe, TB/Plenum, intake and a 1.7 60 foot.

[mustanginky]

Can't see it happening without gears man.

[OH03GT]

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT I know some guy on Allfordmustangs. Has an 01 Bullitt, 259rwhp. His best run stock gears was 13.26 @ 102.7. So, I think its very possible with suspension, tires, Longtubes, mid pipe, TB/Plenum, intake and a 1.7 60 foot.

Originally Posted by mustanginky Can't see it happening without gears man.

i dont know man, im kinda doubting 12.99 full weight and stock gears. bolt ons will help, n what Shaun03GT said u might get close. but itll be hard to do since stock gears are kinda slow

[99mustanggtman]

I don't understand why you would want to try to run 12s on the stock 3.27 gear. Just go with some 4.10s and be done.

[OH03GT]

^^^^

Originally Posted by Blackbird1084 I've been told by a few locals it can't be done but I want to try and prove them wrong.

[tomkat69247]

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT I know some guy on Allfordmustangs. Has an 01 Bullitt, 259rwhp. His best run stock gears was 13.26 @ 102.7. So, I think its very possible with suspension, tires, Longtubes, mid pipe, TB/Plenum, intake and a 1.7 60 foot.

dnt the bullits have 3.73's?

[Shaun03GT]

They dont have 3.73's, but now come to think of it they MAY have 3.55's.

[Blackbird1084]

Well if it'd stop flipping raining here I'd have a chance to try but all it's freakin done here is snow and rain. And I think it can be done but it's deffinitly gonna be hard. And I've already posted that it will get gears somtime this year just not yet.

[mpe331lx]

I'm not going to say its impossible. But it is VERY unlikely to happen at full weight with 3.27s.

The 4.6 cars are undergeared from the factory. They need a steep gear to get them out of the hole hard and to get them into thier power range quickly.

[JayC]

Been thinking on this one for a while. Way back in 2002 I ran a 13.45@102 at Beech Bend Ky. on a very nice 50* day. Also ran a 13.55 and a 13.59 same day. The ONLY mods at the time were, K&N drop in filter w/no silencer, MAC O/R X with welded in Flowmaster 40's and a UPR shifter. Stock tune, spare in the trunk,full interior etc.
So I see it is possible with a few bolt-ons, some suspension work and sticky tires.