Traction Control

RoWoman · February 23rd, 2010, 12:14 PM

I was talking with a kid that sits next to me in class. Hes got an 02 GT with basic bolt ons and drag radials on the rear. We were bullshitting and he started talking about traction control and how he never turns it off and such, even when hes at the track or racing or whatever. I just kinda stared at him and tried to explain about traction control, especially in our cars. He didn't get it.

What are all of your views on it? I know personally whenever I get in my car I put my seatbelt on and turn the traction control off.

TaintedStang · February 23rd, 2010, 12:28 PM

I thought the traction control only kicks in when it senses the rear tires losing traction? If so then I don't see a reason to turn it off at the track except for when you do the burnout. I'm no expert at this stuff though so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

RoWoman · February 23rd, 2010, 12:36 PM

The trac control kicks in when it senses the rear wheels spinning. If you break the tires loose and it kicks in, it drops timing and closes the throttle with the computer.We have throttle by wire. After the trac kicks in it slowly brings the timing back and slowly opens the throttle back up. Its not a quick recovery.

Also if your power shifting and you chirp 2nd and maybe 3rd ( If your car has enough balls

) then the traction control will kick in again and do the same thing as above.

Also if your used to driving a rear wheel car, especially a V8, traction control can mess up what you expect your car to do if your rear slips in tight situations, and even in normal traffic.

M.P. Cobra Fan · February 23rd, 2010, 12:43 PM

I leave my traction control. No sense in turning it off IMO unless I am racing. I don't know about you, but I have a throttle cable, not a throttle wire.

RyanGT · February 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM

Traction control leans out the motor. It is actually dangerous for blown cars. I would turn it off MP if you are running decent boost hehe.

Scott2001GT · February 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM

I always turn my off.

M.P. Cobra Fan · February 23rd, 2010, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by RyanGT

Traction control leans out the motor. It is actually dangerous for blown cars. I would turn it off MP if you are running decent boost hehe.

Smartass. I haz no boost.

RyanGT · February 23rd, 2010, 12:54 PM

Hhaha sorry man!!! Saw your hood and assumed termi.

M.P. Cobra Fan · February 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM

Nope.

I sad. It's an 01. The hood is a Saleen hood. I wantz me some boozt bad!

03SonicBoom · February 23rd, 2010, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by RoWoman

The trac control kicks in when it senses the rear wheels spinning. If you break the tires loose and it kicks in, it drops timing and closes the throttle with the computer.We have throttle by wire. After the trac kicks in it slowly brings the timing back and slowly opens the throttle back up. Its not a quick recovery.

That's not what it does at all. These cars are not throttle by wire. Turn on your cruise control and start going up and down hills w/ it on. Rest your foot on the gas pedal (but don't push it). Notice that the pedal moves by itself.....not throttle by wire.

Here's what traction control actually does.

Bosch traction control system works at all speeds: Whenever wheelspin is detected, the system retards ignition timing, cuts fuel flow, and activates the brakes at one or both drive wheels, in that order. The driver can turn the system off with a console switch.

1999-2004 Ford Mustang GT Review - Modern Racer - Auto Archive

F8L GT · February 23rd, 2010, 01:00 PM

Rowoman, our cars are not fly by wire. they are ran by a throttle cable. My traction control has be shut off with my tuner for the past 3 years. I have no need for it. If i remember right, the trac control cuts fuel off going to the cylinders giving it less power

RoWoman · February 23rd, 2010, 01:02 PM

You sir are correct. I was thinking of the s197's. They have throttle by wire. So now that I look like a complete ass, continue with the thread

Eagle2000GT · February 23rd, 2010, 02:08 PM

It is impossible to race with the traction control on. When you launch it basically kills the motor. The harder you launch the harder it kills the motor. Mine has been permenantly turned off for two years.

I didn't find it useful in the snow either. Having driven rear wheel drive cars my entire life I could actually react faster than the traction control. Besides, there nothing wrong with turning the corner in the snow with your back wheels. Actually, its kind of fun.

RyanGT · February 23rd, 2010, 02:15 PM

Once i forgot to turn trac control off in the snow... all it did is keep killing the power and i stalled in the middle of a steep hill... and was an 3 lane each direction intersection. Now that was fun!!

Ie... trac control is for lightly modded stangs in the rain! :p

dcook_14 · February 23rd, 2010, 03:19 PM

Turn it off, I had mine on for about the first two months I owned the car

adamo41188 · February 23rd, 2010, 03:32 PM

I hate it!!!

00vabchgt · February 23rd, 2010, 03:56 PM

i turned mine off with a tune. it's off all the time...

February 23rd, 2010, 12:14 PM	#1
RoWoman Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.9@100 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	Traction Control I was talking with a kid that sits next to me in class. Hes got an 02 GT with basic bolt ons and drag radials on the rear. We were bullshitting and he started talking about traction control and how he never turns it off and such, even when hes at the track or racing or whatever. I just kinda stared at him and tried to explain about traction control, especially in our cars. He didn't get it. What are all of your views on it? I know personally whenever I get in my car I put my seatbelt on and turn the traction control off. __________________ CAI, homemade o/r H pipe, flowmaster 40s, and some other stuff

February 23rd, 2010, 12:28 PM	#2
TaintedStang I wanna SPRAY! 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 7,293 iTrader: 5 reviews	I thought the traction control only kicks in when it senses the rear tires losing traction? If so then I don't see a reason to turn it off at the track except for when you do the burnout. I'm no expert at this stuff though so take my opinion with a grain of salt. __________________

February 23rd, 2010, 12:36 PM	#3
RoWoman Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.9@100 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	The trac control kicks in when it senses the rear wheels spinning. If you break the tires loose and it kicks in, it drops timing and closes the throttle with the computer.We have throttle by wire. After the trac kicks in it slowly brings the timing back and slowly opens the throttle back up. Its not a quick recovery. Also if your power shifting and you chirp 2nd and maybe 3rd ( If your car has enough balls ) then the traction control will kick in again and do the same thing as above. Also if your used to driving a rear wheel car, especially a V8, traction control can mess up what you expect your car to do if your rear slips in tight situations, and even in normal traffic. __________________ CAI, homemade o/r H pipe, flowmaster 40s, and some other stuff

February 23rd, 2010, 12:43 PM	#4
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples Fl Posts: 11,052 iTrader: 1 reviews	I leave my traction control. No sense in turning it off IMO unless I am racing. I don't know about you, but I have a throttle cable, not a throttle wire. __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E6 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

February 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM	#5
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Traction control leans out the motor. It is actually dangerous for blown cars. I would turn it off MP if you are running decent boost hehe. __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

February 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM	#6
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 11.649 @ 119 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 16,639 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	I always turn my off. __________________ Powered by Ford Boosted by Precision Turbo and Engine Thanks to: Wagon Wheel Performance & STL Mustangs

February 23rd, 2010, 12:54 PM	#8
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Hhaha sorry man!!! Saw your hood and assumed termi. __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

February 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM	#9
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples Fl Posts: 11,052 iTrader: 1 reviews	Nope. I sad. It's an 01. The hood is a Saleen hood. I wantz me some boozt bad! __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E6 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

February 23rd, 2010, 01:00 PM	#11
F8L GT !FACEPLATED! 2002 Mustang GT 7.84 @ 86.01 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 14,964 iTrader: 13 reviews	Rowoman, our cars are not fly by wire. they are ran by a throttle cable. My traction control has be shut off with my tuner for the past 3 years. I have no need for it. If i remember right, the trac control cuts fuel off going to the cylinders giving it less power __________________ MM Bracket Racing Crew Co-Founder VIDEO OF F8L

February 23rd, 2010, 01:02 PM	#12
RoWoman Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.9@100 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	You sir are correct. I was thinking of the s197's. They have throttle by wire. So now that I look like a complete ass, continue with the thread __________________ CAI, homemade o/r H pipe, flowmaster 40s, and some other stuff

February 23rd, 2010, 02:15 PM	#14
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Once i forgot to turn trac control off in the snow... all it did is keep killing the power and i stalled in the middle of a steep hill... and was an 3 lane each direction intersection. Now that was fun!! Ie... trac control is for lightly modded stangs in the rain! :p __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

February 23rd, 2010, 03:19 PM	#15
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,008 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	Turn it off, I had mine on for about the first two months I owned the car __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

February 23rd, 2010, 03:32 PM	#16
adamo41188 Regular 2002 GT 13.885 @ 100.20 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	I hate it!!!

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