My Goal is 400 RWHP...tell me what u think

StuTheMusicEngineer · March 3rd, 2007, 04:49 AM

I'm leaning towards a Vortech....(price seems right) although I know with stock internals I'm not gonna get to 400 safely...I got a friend who has the same car with almost identical mods pushin 410rwhp with a vortech with the aftercooler (another $1000 though).....I'm thinkin I could probably get the same with the Vortech, and instead of the aftercooler I'll get a cam (not sure which one though) and be able to get a safer tune.....

do you guys think it would be more cost effective to get the aftercooler and no cam or get the cam and no aftercooler.....Or should I do something completely different!!!???

my goal is no less than 400 to the wheels with stock internals on a daily driver.....doable?.....or should I just get the blower and call it a day?

oh...btw...I got 245rwhp and 280rwt right now on a mustang dyno...check my mods...

thanks....

neckbonekat · March 3rd, 2007, 05:30 AM

A bit more expensive, but will get you to your goal. I think you will have to forge your internals regardless, just to be safe.
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...2v/gt96-04.htm

This is what happens if you don't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRyMDDXMqbk

acmillr · March 3rd, 2007, 05:32 AM

I would go with the aftercooler. 400 shouldn't be a problem and the aftercooler won't affect your driveability like a hot pair of bump sticks will. Also, the aftercooler would help make the supercharger easier on your motor.

acmillr · March 3rd, 2007, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by neckbonekat

A bit more expensive, but will get you to your goal. I think you will have to forge your internals regardless, just to be safe.
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...2v/gt96-04.htm

This is what happens if you don't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRyMDDXMqbk

Why not get a forged shortblock after you destroy the stock bottom end?????????????????????

neckbonekat · March 3rd, 2007, 05:40 AM

I suppose you could do it that way. LOL

ChrisJ · March 3rd, 2007, 10:21 AM

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Get a Mongoose kit...You can pay an extra $250 when you buy and upgrade it to a T-Trim...Tim sends a tune with it and the tune is dead-on...

raceruler03 · March 3rd, 2007, 12:46 PM

that or a procharger

Ryno · March 3rd, 2007, 12:56 PM

If i'm not mistaken you can get a KB 6 psi kit for about 3700, and about another grand for an intercooler and ability for ore boost.... Isnt that about the same price as the vortecs or am i confused???

neckbonekat · March 3rd, 2007, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ryno

If i'm not mistaken you can get a KB 6 psi kit for about 3700, and about another grand for an intercooler and ability for ore boost.... Isnt that about the same price as the vortecs or am i confused???

A 6-14 PSI Kenne Bell w/AC intercooled w/boost-a-pump and chip is $4999.00. The non-intercooled version is $3899.00.

StuTheMusicEngineer · March 3rd, 2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Also, the aftercooler would help make the supercharger easier on your motor.

really...the colder air makes it safer even when your making more HP?

Drgnracin72 · March 3rd, 2007, 04:35 PM

ok the think with the intercooler, is it allows you run to more timing since your getting cooler air. the cams and no intercooler isnt going to make you get more boost. itll give you a little more power, but not what your wanting. buy a vortec, and if you dont want the intercooler, do some methanol injection. also 400 rwhp with a safe tune will be perfectly fine. all you have to do is make sure you get a really good tune, and also dont over rev the motor. there would be no reason to rev it past 5800./ thats the big killer in these motors. people over rev them which causes a lot of heat which causes pistons to break

StuTheMusicEngineer · March 3rd, 2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

ok the think with the intercooler, is it allows you run to more timing since your getting cooler air. the cams and no intercooler isnt going to make you get more boost. itll give you a little more power, but not what your wanting. buy a vortec, and if you dont want the intercooler, do some methanol injection. also 400 rwhp with a safe tune will be perfectly fine. all you have to do is make sure you get a really good tune, and also dont over rev the motor. there would be no reason to rev it past 5800./ thats the big killer in these motors. people over rev them which causes a lot of heat which causes pistons to break

thanks for schooling me once again drgracin......

about the methanol injection, expensive? how do I go about that....is there a kit for it? do you know a link I could check out...thanks

White99stang · March 3rd, 2007, 05:23 PM

well let me correct you also and say that its cams (plural), you have 2, one over each head but hey if you just want to get 1 go ahead but i don't think the car will run right lol. You can get a methanol kit for around 300 bucks and it will work wonders on a non intercooled supercharger

StuTheMusicEngineer · March 3rd, 2007, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by White99stang

well let me correct you also and say that its cams (plural), you have 2, one over each head but hey if you just want to get 1 go ahead but i don't think the car will run right lol. You can get a methanol kit for around 300 bucks and it will work wonders on a non intercooled supercharger

you know with gas prices and all I thought i'd just get one, and convert it to a 4 cylinder....hehe

ChrisJ · March 3rd, 2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by raceruler03

that or a procharger

Modular Powerhouse sells Prochargers now as well...

Go with an intercooler...

March 3rd, 2007, 04:49 AM	#1
StuTheMusicEngineer Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Queens, New York (from NC) Posts: 206 iTrader: 0 reviews	My Goal is 400 RWHP...tell me what u think I'm leaning towards a Vortech....(price seems right) although I know with stock internals I'm not gonna get to 400 safely...I got a friend who has the same car with almost identical mods pushin 410rwhp with a vortech with the aftercooler (another $1000 though).....I'm thinkin I could probably get the same with the Vortech, and instead of the aftercooler I'll get a cam (not sure which one though) and be able to get a safer tune..... do you guys think it would be more cost effective to get the aftercooler and no cam or get the cam and no aftercooler.....Or should I do something completely different!!!??? my goal is no less than 400 to the wheels with stock internals on a daily driver.....doable?.....or should I just get the blower and call it a day? oh...btw...I got 245rwhp and 280rwt right now on a mustang dyno...check my mods... thanks.... __________________ 2004 GT....4.10s, SCT X Cal2, BBK Lts, BBK O/R Xpipe, Flowmaster catback with Super 40 mufflers, BBK 75mm TB & Plenum, K&N Filter w/no silencer, Steeda UDP, Steeda TriAx, and Steeda G-Trac stages 1, 2, 3, and 4, blower is on the way!!!

March 3rd, 2007, 05:30 AM	#2
neckbonekat I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Cadillac STS V8 ???????????????? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 6,344 iTrader: 3 reviews	A bit more expensive, but will get you to your goal. I think you will have to forge your internals regardless, just to be safe. http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...2v/gt96-04.htm This is what happens if you don't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRyMDDXMqbk __________________ ITEMS FOR SALE! 4.10 GEARS + BEARING KIT

March 3rd, 2007, 05:32 AM	#3
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	I would go with the aftercooler. 400 shouldn't be a problem and the aftercooler won't affect your driveability like a hot pair of bump sticks will. Also, the aftercooler would help make the supercharger easier on your motor. __________________

March 3rd, 2007, 05:40 AM	#5
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March 3rd, 2007, 12:56 PM	#8
Ryno Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 reviews	If i'm not mistaken you can get a KB 6 psi kit for about 3700, and about another grand for an intercooler and ability for ore boost.... Isnt that about the same price as the vortecs or am i confused??? __________________ Ryno www.myspace.com/ryno5700

March 3rd, 2007, 04:35 PM	#11
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	ok the think with the intercooler, is it allows you run to more timing since your getting cooler air. the cams and no intercooler isnt going to make you get more boost. itll give you a little more power, but not what your wanting. buy a vortec, and if you dont want the intercooler, do some methanol injection. also 400 rwhp with a safe tune will be perfectly fine. all you have to do is make sure you get a really good tune, and also dont over rev the motor. there would be no reason to rev it past 5800./ thats the big killer in these motors. people over rev them which causes a lot of heat which causes pistons to break __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

March 3rd, 2007, 05:23 PM	#13
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	well let me correct you also and say that its cams (plural), you have 2, one over each head but hey if you just want to get 1 go ahead but i don't think the car will run right lol. You can get a methanol kit for around 300 bucks and it will work wonders on a non intercooled supercharger __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

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