Water and white smoke

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 04:39 PM

hmmmm
Was ur car run out of oil?
Was it run out of anti freeze?
Was it over heating?
How much did u over rev it?

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 04:53 PM

Dang, youtube is taking its sweet time. I never really over-rev it. The only time I can think of is when I floor it or launch it, it will redline before changing gears. But I don't do that very often.

I've actually lost quite a bit of coolant. Also I checked my oil dipstick and it was past full. Just something I thought was out of the ordinary.

limited · March 11th, 2010, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by ReikokuKo

I've actually lost quite a bit of coolant. Also I checked my oil dipstick and it was past full. Just something I thought was out of the ordinary.

both of those point to a blown gasket or cracked head, if wasn't for the excessive smoking I would have suspected the oil cooler area(if you have one, if not that gasket) it's rare the 4.6l blowing a head gasket,n/a

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by limited

...it's rare the 4.6l blowing a head gasket,n/a

Just my luck. I sure hope its not a cracked head though. Is it safe to continue driving it and just keep adding coolant?

limited · March 11th, 2010, 05:05 PM

antifreeze and bearings are not a good mix, I would fix asap

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 05:12 PM

Has anyone heard of or tried Steel Seal?

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 05:18 PM

nope

and if your loosing antifreeze thats bad... also check your anti freeze and make sure theres not Oil in it if there is you have a cracked head! and thats BAD! your looking anywhere from 500- 1000+ fix x.x for a cracked head. and a fix for a head gasket prolly wont cost any where near that I am not sure never really dealt with those that much head gasket will vary

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 05:22 PM

My antifreeze had its normal color. It was just low.

This Steel Seal and ThermalWeld stuff, you supposedly just pour it in where your coolant goes and it will seal cracked heads and blown head gaskets. I've been searching around and a lot of people who have tried it are saying that it works. I just wanted to see if anyone here had tried it since I trust the people here more than what shows up on google searches.

limited · March 11th, 2010, 05:26 PM

I don't know the product you are talking about, but I have used silver solder stop leak fix and it has worked for me on several occasions, however it should only be used as a temp repair till you get it fixed, no stop leak product is a perm. fix

edit: I think thats the name of it, looks like metal shavings in a tube

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 05:36 PM

It may work.. but like Limited said . it is a very temporary fix. you still need get your car fixed asap before more harm is done. and if your car has a blown head gasket I wouldn't drive it you will end up tearing up more crap and no body want's that

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 05:54 PM

Well, I'm going to attempt to change out the head gaskets myself this weekend. What's a good list of things I will need before I get started?

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 06:43 PM

HMM i am not sure

I have not done this repair by myself

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 06:43 PM

let me get someone in here to help with that

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 08:45 PM

Well, here's the video just to be sure beyond any reasonable doubt.

YouTube - DSCN3064

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 10:13 PM

1. love ur cars sound.
2.that's a very mild white smoke.
3. Stick ur finger inside ur tail pipe (not when its hot) and see if U feel water! That looks more like condensation!

F8L GT · March 11th, 2010, 10:23 PM

we have a lot more condensation now due to the poorer quality of gasoline. You should be ok. Thick white smoke, like enough that you cant see anything at all through it, then you should worry

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM

+! what he said... if you have any serious issues. you will start to notice right away.. of you have a bad head gasket you will overheat.

ReikokuKo · March 11th, 2010, 11:16 PM

Well, that is great news. I haven't really noticed any performance degrades. But how do I explain the lowered coolant levels? It wasn't terribly low, my mechanic put coolant in it last and I never looked so I don't know how much he put.

There is one thing I noticed, it could be completely unrelated, but when my engine is warm and I change gears, say from Drive to Reverse, my tach dips below 500 then comes back up to normal idle. Or when I'm at a complete idle, and I gas it and release really quick, after I release my tach will dip down and only once did it dip down low enough for my engine to stall.

I will finger my exhaust later on tonight to check for water.

02GT89 · March 11th, 2010, 11:33 PM

hm... It shouldn't dip low enough for it to stall on an a/t .. how ever it will go down .

M.P. Cobra Fan · March 12th, 2010, 12:02 AM

Damn and I was worried for you for a second. My car smokes worse then that! LOL.

March 11th, 2010, 04:39 PM	#21
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	hmmmm Was ur car run out of oil? Was it run out of anti freeze? Was it over heating? How much did u over rev it? __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 11th, 2010, 05:05 PM	#25
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,068 iTrader: 0 reviews	antifreeze and bearings are not a good mix, I would fix asap __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

March 11th, 2010, 05:18 PM	#27
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	nope and if your loosing antifreeze thats bad... also check your anti freeze and make sure theres not Oil in it if there is you have a cracked head! and thats BAD! your looking anywhere from 500- 1000+ fix x.x for a cracked head. and a fix for a head gasket prolly wont cost any where near that I am not sure never really dealt with those that much head gasket will vary __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz Last edited by 02GT89; March 11th, 2010 at 05:22 PM.

March 11th, 2010, 05:26 PM	#29
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,068 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know the product you are talking about, but I have used silver solder stop leak fix and it has worked for me on several occasions, however it should only be used as a temp repair till you get it fixed, no stop leak product is a perm. fix edit: I think thats the name of it, looks like metal shavings in a tube __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com Last edited by limited; March 11th, 2010 at 05:31 PM.

March 11th, 2010, 05:36 PM	#30
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	It may work.. but like Limited said . it is a very temporary fix. you still need get your car fixed asap before more harm is done. and if your car has a blown head gasket I wouldn't drive it you will end up tearing up more crap and no body want's that __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 11th, 2010, 04:53 PM	#22
ReikokuKo Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covina Posts: 129 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dang, youtube is taking its sweet time. I never really over-rev it. The only time I can think of is when I floor it or launch it, it will redline before changing gears. But I don't do that very often. I've actually lost quite a bit of coolant. Also I checked my oil dipstick and it was past full. Just something I thought was out of the ordinary.

March 11th, 2010, 05:12 PM	#26
ReikokuKo Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covina Posts: 129 iTrader: 0 reviews	Has anyone heard of or tried Steel Seal?

March 11th, 2010, 05:22 PM	#28
ReikokuKo Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covina Posts: 129 iTrader: 0 reviews	My antifreeze had its normal color. It was just low. This Steel Seal and ThermalWeld stuff, you supposedly just pour it in where your coolant goes and it will seal cracked heads and blown head gaskets. I've been searching around and a lot of people who have tried it are saying that it works. I just wanted to see if anyone here had tried it since I trust the people here more than what shows up on google searches.

March 11th, 2010, 05:54 PM	#31
ReikokuKo Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covina Posts: 129 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, I'm going to attempt to change out the head gaskets myself this weekend. What's a good list of things I will need before I get started?

March 11th, 2010, 06:43 PM	#32
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	HMM i am not sure I have not done this repair by myself __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 11th, 2010, 10:13 PM	#35
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	1. love ur cars sound. 2.that's a very mild white smoke. 3. Stick ur finger inside ur tail pipe (not when its hot) and see if U feel water! That looks more like condensation! __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 11th, 2010, 10:23 PM	#36
F8L GT !FACEPLATED! 2002 Mustang GT 7.84 @ 86.01 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 12,067 iTrader: 13 reviews	we have a lot more condensation now due to the poorer quality of gasoline. You should be ok. Thick white smoke, like enough that you cant see anything at all through it, then you should worry __________________ MM Bracket Racing Crew Co-Founder ~Its a Drag Car, Not a Show Car~ Custom Race Transmission Build

March 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM	#37
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	+! what he said... if you have any serious issues. you will start to notice right away.. of you have a bad head gasket you will overheat. __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 11th, 2010, 11:16 PM	#38
ReikokuKo Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covina Posts: 129 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, that is great news. I haven't really noticed any performance degrades. But how do I explain the lowered coolant levels? It wasn't terribly low, my mechanic put coolant in it last and I never looked so I don't know how much he put. There is one thing I noticed, it could be completely unrelated, but when my engine is warm and I change gears, say from Drive to Reverse, my tach dips below 500 then comes back up to normal idle. Or when I'm at a complete idle, and I gas it and release really quick, after I release my tach will dip down and only once did it dip down low enough for my engine to stall. I will finger my exhaust later on tonight to check for water.

March 11th, 2010, 11:33 PM	#39
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,538 iTrader: 0 reviews	hm... It shouldn't dip low enough for it to stall on an a/t .. how ever it will go down . __________________ Beauty and Speed - SALEEN Sig by Zatrekaz

March 12th, 2010, 12:02 AM	#40
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